Can you see the Sun from from outer space? | |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 02/03/2013 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun is NOT visible in space as it emits no visible light only particles which have to interact with matter before they can be detected! Quoting: Just the facts! Bollocks. show me a photo of the sun from space. nothing on a blue soho radar, or a giant flaming ball compilation of photos. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18989740 a legit photo from a shuttle, etc. Did your google break? Claiming that light is somehow magicly different in space is as detached from reality as claiming the Earth is flat. The space station is not in outerspace it is in near earth orbit. at that altitude the view is being affected by the atmosphere and ionosphere Quoting: Keneh How? What is so magical about "outer space" that photons suddenly behave differently? And again what's wrong with the cameras on space probes, or the cameras attached to Apolllo astronauts. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Keneh (OP) User ID: 30197356 United States 02/03/2013 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun is NOT visible in space as it emits no visible light only particles which have to interact with matter before they can be detected! Quoting: Just the facts! Bollocks. show me a photo of the sun from space. nothing on a blue soho radar, or a giant flaming ball compilation of photos. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18989740 a legit photo from a shuttle, etc. Did your google break? Claiming that light is somehow magicly different in space is as detached from reality as claiming the Earth is flat. The space station is not in outerspace it is in near earth orbit. at that altitude the view is being affected by the atmosphere and ionosphere Quoting: Keneh How? What is so magical about "outer space" that photons suddenly behave differently? And again what's wrong with the cameras on space probes, or the cameras attached to Apolllo astronauts. This is all just your opinion as it is mine how about some facts or proof. A simple photograph would suffice? Keneh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31769448 United States 02/03/2013 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like a simple question, but I cant find a for sure answer. I watched this video on another thread and in it he says you cant see the Sun in outer space, and the only reason you can see it is because of the atmosphere. Well I cant find any pictures of the Sun in space, and the only videos I can find from NASA are close to the atmosphere. Can you see the Sun in outer space? Thanks Quoting: Keneh baloney. Yes you can |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 02/03/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing "opinion" about observed facts. Your opinion (whatever it actually is) is not based on any facts. It is wrong. I offered you several. You ignored them, or handwaved them away. Apparently you don't care enough to find one. I made several suggestions. Your unwillingness to test your idea, to put any work in it, indicates you don't care for the truth. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Keneh (OP) User ID: 30197356 United States 02/03/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing "opinion" about observed facts. Your opinion (whatever it actually is) is not based on any facts. It is wrong. I offered you several. You ignored them, or handwaved them away. Apparently you don't care enough to find one. I made several suggestions. Your unwillingness to test your idea, to put any work in it, indicates you don't care for the truth. I have looked in many places and I have yet to find one! Keneh |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 02/04/2013 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your unwillingness to test your idea, to put any work in it, indicates you don't care for the truth. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD I have looked in many places and I have yet to find one! So you're inept. Try harder, learn how to search. If you don't learn to that on your own you'll always be dependent. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
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CleverMoniker User ID: 33226516 Canada 02/04/2013 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are standing on a rock in space, looking at something in space, the atmosphere will only act to block your view if anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30813917 This is as dumb as asking why birds don't fly to the moon.... Not that I agree with OP at all, I just wanted to point out that you are as dumb, if not more, than the people you're calling dumb. The Earth's atmosphere acts as a lens, greatly magnifying the light coming from space. The atmosphere does not 'block' your view of things in space at all, it will in fact enhance your view. |
IFUK User ID: 22946203 United Kingdom 02/04/2013 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's quite a famous photograph taken by Voyager 1 that shows the Solar System from about 40AU (about 60Billion km). The sun is very visible next to the "EV" mark on the left of the photo. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by IFUK on 02/04/2013 06:32 AM |
CleverMoniker User ID: 33226516 Canada 02/04/2013 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To answer the question though, yes, you can see the sun from space. NASA simply has a tendency to keep their instruments pointed away from it, because rarely is having a blinding light fill the screen a productive use of a camera. Even though the ISS is technically in the atmosphere, it's angle to the sun would not let it experience the same 'lens' effect that we experience on the ground. We experience it because we are at the focal point of the lens, whereas in the upper atmosphere the IIS is only experiencing a tiny fraction of this effect, and is not at it's focal point. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 02/04/2013 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are standing on a rock in space, looking at something in space, the atmosphere will only act to block your view if anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30813917 This is as dumb as asking why birds don't fly to the moon.... Not that I agree with OP at all, I just wanted to point out that you are as dumb, if not more, than the people you're calling dumb. The Earth's atmosphere acts as a lens, greatly magnifying the light coming from space. The atmosphere does not 'block' your view of things in space at all, it will in fact enhance your view. Oh, the irony. I will cut to the chase: you're a moran. You accusing other people of being dumb only makes it funnier. The atmosphere does bend light, but only noticeably so when the Sun, or Moon, is at the horizon. If the atmosphere worked like a magnifying lens than some parts of the Earth would get less light. Magnifying lenses don't increase the total amount of light, they just focus it. Air is near 100% transparent for the visible spectrum. But because the atmosphere is thick and never doesn't have any water vapour and dust in it, it will decrease the amount of light that reaches the ground by about 15% under even the best conditions. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Keneh (OP) User ID: 30197356 United States 02/04/2013 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's quite a famous photograph taken by Voyager 1 that shows the Solar System from about 40AU (about 60Billion km). Quoting: IFUK The sun is very visible next to the "EV" mark on the left of the photo. [link to en.wikipedia.org] You know what? Thank you! this is about the only picture I have seen of the Sun from space. Thanks to you I looked up voyager pictures and found one more so now that's two. Last Edited by Keneh on 02/04/2013 11:28 AM Keneh |
Keneh (OP) User ID: 30197356 United States 02/04/2013 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are standing on a rock in space, looking at something in space, the atmosphere will only act to block your view if anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30813917 This is as dumb as asking why birds don't fly to the moon.... Not that I agree with OP at all, I just wanted to point out that you are as dumb, if not more, than the people you're calling dumb. The Earth's atmosphere acts as a lens, greatly magnifying the light coming from space. The atmosphere does not 'block' your view of things in space at all, it will in fact enhance your view. Oh, the irony. I will cut to the chase: you're a moran. You accusing other people of being dumb only makes it funnier. The atmosphere does bend light, but only noticeably so when the Sun, or Moon, is at the horizon. If the atmosphere worked like a magnifying lens than some parts of the Earth would get less light. Magnifying lenses don't increase the total amount of light, they just focus it. Air is near 100% transparent for the visible spectrum. But because the atmosphere is thick and never doesn't have any water vapour and dust in it, it will decrease the amount of light that reaches the ground by about 15% under even the best conditions. Your not really helping. Keneh |
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Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 02/04/2013 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Help? You should learn to help yourself. It is you that has a beef with very well established physics. It is you that has to proof things. You mean about the only one you could find. So, what makes the camera on Voyager 1 different from those on STEREO and SOHO? Or those used on the surface of the Moon? Your standard of evidence seems to be completely arbitrary. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Keneh (OP) User ID: 30197356 United States 02/04/2013 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Help? You should learn to help yourself. It is you that has a beef with very well established physics. It is you that has to proof things. You mean about the only one you could find. So, what makes the camera on Voyager 1 different from those on STEREO and SOHO? Or those used on the surface of the Moon? Your standard of evidence seems to be completely arbitrary. Voyager has a regular narrow and wide angle camera's that can take regular pictures. SOHO and STEREO have specialized instruments that can make specialized images. Im not a scientist but i understand the differnce between a regular photograph and the Images from SOHO and STEREO. Keneh |
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Keneh (OP) User ID: 30197356 United States 02/04/2013 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The human sack probably thinks the sun is powered by nuclear fusion also. Quoting: Da fuq Keep on shillin. The guy in the video says the sun is electric. I think I believe this because all the research I have been doing since I saw this video kind of point to that instead of fusion. Also the very few pictures I have seen of the sun in space remind me of a giant Arc lamp. Keneh |
Da fuq User ID: 16258666 United States 02/04/2013 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the features we observe on the sun which have no business being there according to the standard model, are sunspots. The most significant thing about a sunspot, is the fact that center of the sunspot is dark. If the sun is trying to radiate light energy from its core, we should expect that it is bright. If you think about the Umbra, the darkest place in the center of sunspots. That's the place where we can see deepest into the sun. Consider the fact at that point where we can really see down into the sun, that's the absolute coldest place we are able to measure. Mainstream science on TV and what is taught to you in school is not only boring. It's 100% wrong. Also why would it be 6000K on the surface and 2.2 million k in the corona? physics? fuck physics. |
electrical one User ID: 41958133 United States 06/28/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This pic was taking in HD from the Mars Reconnasiance obiter 88 million miles from earth and 50+ million miles from Mars.This is a FREE SPACE photo. No light interference from anything. Notice anything missing ? yes YOU CANNOT SEE STARS FROM FREE SPACE. Eric Dollars was correct. [link to www.nasa.gov] |
BloodyT3CH User ID: 2148885 Lithuania 06/28/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the features we observe on the sun which have no business being there according to the standard model, are sunspots. The most significant thing about a sunspot, is the fact that center of the sunspot is dark. If the sun is trying to radiate light energy from its core, we should expect that it is bright. If you think about the Umbra, the darkest place in the center of sunspots. That's the place where we can see deepest into the sun. Consider the fact at that point where we can really see down into the sun, that's the absolute coldest place we are able to measure. Quoting: Da fuq Mainstream science on TV and what is taught to you in school is not only boring. It's 100% wrong. Also why would it be 6000K on the surface and 2.2 million k in the corona? physics? fuck physics. The active place is always hotter. Religion is the biggest joke i've ever seen - ME |
Cloud Hidden User ID: 42098051 United States 06/28/2013 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This pic was taking in HD from the Mars Reconnasiance obiter 88 million miles from earth and 50+ million miles from Mars.This is a FREE SPACE photo. No light interference from anything. Notice anything missing ? yes YOU CANNOT SEE STARS FROM FREE SPACE. Eric Dollars was correct. Quoting: electrical one [link to www.nasa.gov] Dat link didn't work |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42448212 United States 06/28/2013 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like a simple question, but I cant find a for sure answer. I watched this video on another thread and in it he says you cant see the Sun in outer space, and the only reason you can see it is because of the atmosphere. Well I cant find any pictures of the Sun in space, and the only videos I can find from NASA are close to the atmosphere. Can you see the Sun in outer space? Thanks Quoting: Keneh The sun is NOT visible in space as it emits no visible light only particles which have to interact with matter before they can be detected! As an experiment try your tv remote control pointed at your eyes and press any button, you see nothing because it is transmitting infra red light. Repeat the same experiment using your mobile phones camera as your eyes and 'hey presto' you see it! No medium no light! This also explains all those Apollo moon pictures with no stars visible! You also never saw an image of the sun from the moons surface or any where else did you! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 06/28/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This pic was taking in HD from the Mars Reconnasiance obiter 88 million miles from earth and 50+ million miles from Mars.This is a FREE SPACE photo. No light interference from anything. Notice anything missing ? yes YOU CANNOT SEE STARS FROM FREE SPACE. Eric Dollars was correct. Quoting: electrical one [link to www.nasa.gov] Beautiful picture. :nostars: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3516822 United States 06/28/2013 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You cannot see stars in most photographs because stars are quite small compared to the field of view, especially in pictures which have very low resolutions, such as the 800x800 resolution image of the earth and moon, above. Here's an interesting article about the navigation system used for the Apollo missions, which required the astronauts to take sightings of various stars to determine their position in space. [link to www.ion.org] |
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