RED ALERT! The Electric universe/ Our sun is growing/ Red Giant/Why is the sun white now?

Thread: Only 55% of all Americans know that the sun is a star.

Ouch!

That really does burn,Ffs.

We have much work still to do it appears - Though saying that,you and I know the Sun is a Star but we are still quite far from being able to define what a Star is exactly,though we are making head-way.

Rice and Peas.





Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 02/09/2013 07:28 PM

My interest peaks more now into the red giant aspect of stars. I understand now they are electric, there is really no debate.

In order to begin red giant phase, sol would have to be acted upon by an outside force.



These changes are not associated with maunder or dalton. No planetary changes were observed. Only sun-earth interaction.

You said on the sol'thread crop circles are made made, 98% I would say yes.

However ones like: [link to www.google.com]

And



Are not.

Ropes and sticks do not do what is done to the crop in these certain circles. Bent in a way that growth is accelerated, woven together. No group of people did that period.

Last Edited by Da fuq on 02/09/2013 09:49 PM

The Sun reminds me of a giant arc lamp

You have got to be joking?

Ok,carry on.

What do you mean by 'No Planetary Changes'?

Jupiter losing some stripes, Saturn storms. I think all but 1 of the planets has experienced some significant change.

My question is, during the last maunder or dalton, was their any observations made on the other planets.

If you watch S.O video, "Energy from space" this event occurring is not limited to the earth and sun.





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I mean, i'm not trying to scare anyone. Just legitimate observations.

No Fear

Last Edited by Da fuq on 02/10/2013 01:03 AM

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2007-Now


Look at the corona


How does a sun gain strength but become weaker at the same time? Curious, when we observe red giant events from earth, the stars usually become whiter and brighter as they fall into red giant.

I mean, if I was the designer. I would do the same thing to us right now too.

Last Edited by Da fuq on 02/10/2013 12:27 AM

I see what you meant now : )

I am not aware of any observed Planetary Changes during the previous Maunder/Dalton Minimum,I will hunt for data later to see if there was or not...as is it is now 05:34AM here and I'm running on empty

I'll check your other question now

With regard the image of the 07 Corona and present capture;If Red Giant phase was commencing we'd see the Chromosphere expanding rather than the Corona also I don't really think the examples show a expanding Corona in as much as they show the Corona in a different period in the Cycle.

Highlighted - Do you mean the output of the Sun increasing during a Red Giant phase?

Edit:Here Da'Fuq -

'As you recall from earlier reading, a star will spend 90% of its lifetime on the main sequence burning Hydrogen into Helium. At the point when the core's supply of Hydrogen is depleted, there is no longer any outward thermonuclear pressure, and gravity collapses the core. During this process of internal collapse, the Hydrogen nuclei surrounding the core suddenly fuse into Helium. The combination of core heating and shell fusion generates tremendous outward pressure and, in the case of our Sun, the star will brighten by a factor of 1000, its absolute magnitude climbing from +4.6 to -3. Long-lived observers on Earth would witness the expansion of the Sun as it engulfs Mercury and nearly reaches Venus. The Luminosity of the star is increasing due to the intense inner reactions, but the expanding outer envelope is increasing even faster, and the surface temperature drops from 6000 K down to about 3200 K. The star drops in spectral sequence from G to K, and finally settles in the M realm as a Red Giant, perhaps M2 or M3 -

Eventually, the collapsing core increases the internal pressure to densities of a metric ton per cubic centimeter, 100,000 times that of Lead. The increased pressure also raises the kinetic energy of the core nuclei to 100 million K. At this incredibly hot temperature, the helium ash from previous fusion reactions becomes fuel for a new series of reactions. Two normal Helium atoms fuse to make a very unstable isotope of Beryllium (8Be), which immediately falls apart - typically within 10e-16 seconds - back into two Helium nuclei. Since this accomplishes nothing as far as the star is concerned, the incredible pressures of this evolved star force three Helium nuclei together at once to make Carbon (12C). Sometimes, an attacking Helium nucleus can turn a Carbon nucleus into Oxygen (16O).
The star suddenly jumps back to "life" with a new source of fuel for thermonuclear reactions, and the collapse of the core is halted. Not only is it halted, but the core actually expands a bit. The star stabilizes in hydrostatic equilibrium, with a slight shrinking of the outer envelope and a movement up in spectral class to the orange K giants, where it will survive, in the case of our own Sun, for another billion years as a dimmer version of Alderberan or Acturus, and with an absolute magnitude near +1' [link to cde.nwc.edu]

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 02/10/2013 12:47 AM

Say what you want about Pane Andov but the man is smart.
he says the sun started turning into a red giant 12/12/12
and will continue until 03/13/13 then,Poof

Yeah, the sun was menacing today in northern cali. It is almost to the point that I can not view the sun through my welding hood.

Regardless, the sun is going full retard and messing with everything around it.

Last Edited by Da fuq on 02/10/2013 12:59 AM

I'm just saying, for the sun being at an all time low that it is at now. How does it appear like it is operating at a higher level now as opposed to 6 years ago.

Considering the sun is not burning anything, I think it is other means which dictates a stars lifespan. These blasts from the galactic center seem intelligent enough.

Last Edited by Da fuq on 02/10/2013 01:11 AM

Nor do I,but I can discuss it

My sig. is basically G-d saying 'Shit Happens'

I need to catch a couple Hours kip Bro'

Night bro.

Would these changes in the Sun also change its gravity?

If any planetary body grew it would command more of a gravitational pull yes.

Even if it is losing 'Mass'?

I believe an expanding sun would push inner planets away, but eventually consume them. Our sol is every small on the scale of sols. lol

If earth were to suddenly double in size it would command more of a gravitational pull. I think an expanding sun may trump gravity.

Last Edited by Da fuq on 02/10/2013 10:25 PM

So next question is could that change in gravity also change the orbit of asteroid DA14

I'm telling you the sun is going red giant... why are you worried about this rock? In regard to your question though yes that would most likely deviate the current path its on.

Because I was wondering and I thought I would ask.

and everything is connected

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Da Fuq is such a red giant expert, what us your eta of explosion?

"where it will survive, in the case of our own Sun, for another billion years as a dimmer version of Alderberan or Acturus, and with an absolute magnitude near +1"

What color would our new sun be? Blue or yellow or orange? Will this be a sort of overnight transition? People are talking about 2-year long revolutions in other threads...

Expansion can take anywhere from months to a few years in other stars we have observed. So whenever the Sun is ready I guess, we have a pretty small sun. Smaller suns may need more time then larger ones once the interaction with the new energy begins. By energy I mean the one sent our way.



I would say within the last year or so, that the sun looked like an obnoxious bright white in the sky. I have sensitive blue eyes but it has never been like this.

I always attributed it to the failing magnetosphere/shrinking atmosphere. The sun is going berzerk right now, affecting everything around it.

Last Edited by Da fuq on 02/11/2013 11:28 AM