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Digital Deception; Can You Trust What You See?

 
Epic Beard Guy

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If it's on the lame stream media, you can't trust anything you see. PMSNBC and CNN are worse.
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What surprises me is that this "fakery" is legal. I was told on here that that couple who outed Monsanto lost their case against Fox etc. Sorry no link.
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[link to www.sourcewatch.org]

Here is the link. Interesting story. They discovered what Monsanto was up to and Fox wanted them to lie etc.
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Definitely true.

Iwo jima was shooped for gods sake!

People don't realize how easy it is to make alterations in a digital world.
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Iwo Jima... read much on that?

So the original flag that was raised on the hill was a small one that wasn't visible from afar. The Navy Commander requested that a larger flag be raised so that everyone would know who was in control of the island (sorta... fighting continued for over a month).

Due to the lack of ore for Japan, all their plumbing was done in lead pipes. So when the soldiers attempted to raise the new, larger flag, it literally took 6 men to raise the large lead pipe into the air with the new flag attached. The fact that it was a second raising is staged, but it was a 6 man effort to get that flag up.

Regarding the topic of the post itself, yes, you cannot believe your eyes anymore.
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You can't trust anything on Television.

Green screens are rampant everywhere, as are the studios.

The news is mostly just stories now, sent down from the top. Why else would supposed individual networks air the exact same stories, at the exact same time, with the exact same talking points. Sometimes word for word. We have seen this many times.
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WOW Phennomm!!!

wow

Perpetually dumbfounded.

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I work in that business and would doubt there is that much fake(ry) at all. It would cost wayyyy too much money imho.
Shill me if you must but I have 22 years in.
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No shilling, and no its not expensive at all.

With your own CS5.5 licence, you can get away with a lot.
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CS6 is even better, one small price per month with all of the video stuff too.


And for sure, the deception is ADVERTISERS get the news/pr - it is that simple, 85% of the time. You pay, you play.
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Lots more visual trickery on their channel.
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I work in that business and would doubt there is that much fake(ry) at all. It would cost wayyyy too much money imho.
Shill me if you must but I have 22 years in.
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No shilling, and no its not expensive at all.

With your own CS5.5 licence, you can get away with a lot.
 Quoting: eyeDR3


CS6 is even better, one small price per month with all of the video stuff too.


And for sure, the deception is ADVERTISERS get the news/pr - it is that simple, 85% of the time. You pay, you play.
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What are these licenses?
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02/14/2013 03:12 PM
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there is no longer anyway to distinguish between fact or fiction.

between truth or lie.
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Yes there is it's called common sense.
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This has been going on for decades: WWII events; JFK; 9/11; recent mass murders, yadda, yadda, yadda. Mass (media) programming, since the invention of still photographs, tptb's weapon of choice.

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I was a guest on a Fox morning show in 2009 to speak with a psychic/medium about my paranormal experiences and the producers tried to get me to change my true events into false stories. I agreed with them until I was on live camera and told the truth. MSM are insane.
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What did they say / do to you when you went with your true version?
What did they want you to change them to?
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I told of experiences my daughters, sister, nephew and my wife & me had after my mom died. They tried to get me to say, "I thought I saw" instead of I or we did see. After the show I asked for a copy of the segment. They told me that it would be on their website and you tube. They had 2 segments, part 1 & part 2 which is what I was on. They posted part 1 twice instead of part 2. I was rather curious as to why they didn't want my story aired. Rather strange.
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Also, subliminal imprinting is still alive and working, now it's even paired with audio deception. Go even further, it's tailored just for that specific viewer(s). Enter Subliminal by Design.


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we've known at least since 911 that TV fakery exists.

much of the MSM news is not only controlled but compromised.
lets not forget of late the anderson cooper nose vaporization
Thread: Anderson Cooper Disappearing Nose and Unedited Sound Clicks from editing

how much of it and to what lengths and extent are we expcted to accept as truth?


[link to www.youtube.com]

 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Wow so all the movies are really made right in Hollywood.. No need to travel..

Also they must use this on us in the News then...
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CNN fake gulf war news....YouTube it.....I can't from my phone right now.
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Also, subliminal imprinting is still alive and working, now it's even paired with audio deception. Go even further, it's tailored just for that specific viewer(s). Enter Subliminal by Design.


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No way! Link?
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fox = fuxn00z
nbc = nothing but crap
abc = all bullshit channel
cbs = constant bullshit station
pbs = paid (for) by sheeple
cnn = communist news network
bbc = bogus british cunts
msnbc = more snotty nonsense by creeps
cspan = cable satellite political asshole news
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Remember this the next time you see a "news" clip of something the media is pushing for you to believe. They have an agenda and it has nothing to do with the truth.
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Recycled news
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we've known at least since 911 that TV fakery exists.

much of the MSM news is not only controlled but compromised.
lets not forget of late the anderson cooper nose vaporization
Thread: Anderson Cooper Disappearing Nose and Unedited Sound Clicks from editing

how much of it and to what lengths and extent are we expcted to accept as truth?


[link to www.youtube.com]

 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Wow so all the movies are really made right in Hollywood.. No need to travel..

Also they must use this on us in the News then...
 Quoting: MessengerInTheLastDays


actually i personaly find it hard to believe most people think all those movies and series are recorded on the streets in real life? and the burning and crashing stuff is all real.

how would that even be possible?

but yea great technology
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Clearly most of the dramatic news events, especially recently, are entirely fabricated and manufactured, with little basis in reality. Been really getting out of hand since the first Obama presidential race.

What's even more disturbing though, is the actual news and events that the MSM does not cover and ignore.

damned
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Most excellent vid OP. Thanks for the post.

Peace.
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I work in that business and would doubt there is that much fake(ry) at all. It would cost wayyyy too much money imho.
Shill me if you must but I have 22 years in.
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I too work in a closely related field - the amount of money required to do widespread fakery would be prohibitive inmho.

That video does really understate the amount of skill and expertise required to composite those shots.

Camera matching is pretty easy but the lighting, grading and masking is very time consuming and expensive.

But that said - that doesn't mean that it hasn't/does/will happened/happen - for the big stuff, just not everyday....

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dont you guys recall the occupy wall st footage of NYC? the media showed mass mobs - streets filled and some ac posted a live google satellite shot, same fkn cab parked et al etc - the fkn ppl were photoshopped IN the media coverage.
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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lol, who told you that television is reality ?
how naive is some of you people ???
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lol, who told you that television is reality ?
how naive is some of you people ???
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Well very true, however we have the right to expect the news to be the truth!
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take anything and everything you see or hear with a grain of salt.

also, accept that whatever the general population believes to be true is the reality of things.
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Ugh. How poignantly and painfully true. However, I believe there is more weight and power to a mind which is aware. It can take just one person to open the door which can never be closed.
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What surprises me is that this "fakery" is legal. I was told on here that that couple who outed Monsanto lost their case against Fox etc. Sorry no link.
 Quoting: allisaTX


Hi Allisa.

Here you go.
[link to www.foxbghsuit.com]

[link to www.sourcewatch.org]
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838 Hello!!

hfhi
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Also, subliminal imprinting is still alive and working, now it's even paired with audio deception. Go even further, it's tailored just for that specific viewer(s). Enter Subliminal by Design.


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Can anyone confirm this? This is disturbing.
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no. not one fucking pixel or frame





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