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BREAKING: Thousands May Have Been Exposed to Deadly TB Epidemic in Downtown Los Angeles

 
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no she was not the index case of tb. that is not why they are treating the water at the hotel, is it? no, but that tank should go and all the pipes, if it weren't already a financial burden for the owner, they would do this. no one will ever want to stay there again unless they do.

forgive me, but she was scared of something. did you see the vid of her in the elevator? a smart girl, showing intelligence but also seemed to be escaping a bad situation there??

not, however, any link to the EMERGENCE of MULTI DRUG RESISTANT TB in downtown LA homeless shelter.

must be another one of those cosmic coincidences..very bad times for LA.
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A lot of them are probably smokers...smoker's are much much less likely to get TB...

Look it up, why do you think the Govt promoted smoking for so long in the 30's, 40's and 50's, it was to combat TB...
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what a load of shit. Im a smoker so i which this was true but it isn't.


-smoking damages the lungs and can make smokers more susceptible to TB infection;

-smoking harms the body's immune system, meaning smokers are less able to combat TB infection; and

-smoking reduces the effectiveness of TB treatment which can lead to longer periods of infection and/or more severe forms of the disease.

-If cigarette smokers breathe in TB bacteria, they may be up to three times more likely to develop latent TB infection than non-smokers. The risk of infection also increases the more you smoke and the longer you have been smoking.
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I should always post my sarcasm notice when posting...

But it's true, the Govt promoted smoking as a preventative measure for TB...I have no idea if it worked or not, but we did basically eradicate TB in the USA & Europe without vaccine...

Which is interesting because of how many people smoked during the time that TB became a rare disease...

You would think if it was really a risk factor, it would have ballooned in the 30's, 40's & 50's (America's prime smoking decades) instead of decreased in frequency the way it did...

Food for thought...

Of course that was also before they started loading tobacco with fungicides, pesticides, and herbicides...and before they started treating cigarettes with formaldehyde...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


just a thought:
because your lung has a slight coat with tar and your body is used to fight this off.. tc gets stuck and "caged" on the tar and you cough it out, without it being able to get in your alveoles ..
of course, not all is coughed out, but stuck there like forever..and your body has time to get used to it.
maybe that´s why you find tc antibodies in so many people from the eastern/balkan countries here in europe, but no one really is sick - and those are more often smokers than not.

but back to the outbreak:
maybe it was orchestrated and this poor girl is "person 1" and we see a contagion-like movie in reality happening.. i don´t hope so.
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Smoking actually desinfects mouth, throat and lungs. Anyone who stopped smoking will know you are more likely to catch a bacterial infection when you quit smoking because all the natural bactarias have to be re-estrablished first, usually causing a strep throat, coughs and lots of other bacteria related things. That is not to say smoking is healthy, but its antiseptic "benefits" are a proven fact.
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no she was not the index case of tb. that is not why they are treating the water at the hotel, is it? no, but that tank should go and all the pipes, if it weren't already a financial burden for the owner, they would do this. no one will ever want to stay there again unless they do.

forgive me, but she was scared of something. did you see the vid of her in the elevator? a smart girl, showing intelligence but also seemed to be escaping a bad situation there??

not, however, any link to the EMERGENCE of MULTI DRUG RESISTANT TB in downtown LA homeless shelter.

must be another one of those cosmic coincidences..very bad times for LA.
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No, she is not the cause of the TB outbreak. It is just her name is the name for the TB test. It is a mirror image. Elisa Lam/Lam-Elisa.
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LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat what they say might be a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.

Jeff Nguyen, reporting for CBS2 and KCAL9, went downtown in search of people who may have been exposed.

John Williams started living at the Weingart shelter on LA’s Skid Row two weeks ago. Before he could be admitted he had to undergo a screening for tuberculosis.


Full story: [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


can you connect the dots ?

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
LAM Elisa is the name of a Tuberculosos test

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Tourists staying at a Los Angeles hotel bathed, brushed teeth and drank water from a tank in which a young woman's body was likely decomposing for more than two weeks, police said.

Elisa Lam's corpse was found in the Cecil Hotel's rooftop water tank by a maintenance worker who was trying to figure out why the water pressure was low Tuesday.

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And just the fact that her body was found from 2 minutes of the supposed "Ground Zero" ... Dude this just got freaky
 Quoting: SnakesAndLadders


Yup. A girl dies with the exact same name as a TB test and TB breaks out in the same area. She also died in the sign of Aquarius which is the water carrier and of course she was found in a cistern of water. Sounds like an illuminati sacrifice to me.
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Looks like someone already beat me to it, but I don't think it can be overstated how weird of a "coincidence" it is that LAM-ELISA is a type of test used to test for TB and that there may be an outbreak of TB in LA.

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Thread: Corpse found in L.A. hotel's water tank.......update history of Hotel

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Looks like someone already beat me to it, but I don't think it can be overstated how weird of a "coincidence" it is that LAM-ELISA is a type of test used to test for TB and that there may be an outbreak of TB in LA.

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The hotel's website: [link to www.thececilhotel.com] The Cecil Hotel in Downtown Los Angeles

Thousands May Have Been Exposed to Deadly TB Epidemic in Downtown Los Angeles

[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]
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From this thread: Thread: Corpse found in L.A. hotel's water tank.......update history of Hotel
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no she was not the index case of tb. that is not why they are treating the water at the hotel, is it? no, but that tank should go and all the pipes, if it weren't already a financial burden for the owner, they would do this. no one will ever want to stay there again unless they do.

forgive me, but she was scared of something. did you see the vid of her in the elevator? a smart girl, showing intelligence but also seemed to be escaping a bad situation there??

not, however, any link to the EMERGENCE of MULTI DRUG RESISTANT TB in downtown LA homeless shelter.

must be another one of those cosmic coincidences..very bad times for LA.
 Quoting: eos


how do YOU know she didn't have tb?
even the coroner said it will be months before they know
what exactly killed her.
NOBODY, not even her private doctors or family or university health office have said ANYTHING about her health.
except that she didn't do drugs or drink.
usually they say, "she was a HEALTHY YOUNG WOMAN, we cant imagine how she died",
but noone has even said that. NOT ONE PERSON.
usually when a young person dies, they talk about how healthy, vibrant, and promising they were.
why isn't that being said of this girl?
makes me think she might have had some kind of health issue they don't want the public to know about.
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no she was not the index case of tb. that is not why they are treating the water at the hotel, is it? no, but that tank should go and all the pipes, if it weren't already a financial burden for the owner, they would do this. no one will ever want to stay there again unless they do.

forgive me, but she was scared of something. did you see the vid of her in the elevator? a smart girl, showing intelligence but also seemed to be escaping a bad situation there??

not, however, any link to the EMERGENCE of MULTI DRUG RESISTANT TB in downtown LA homeless shelter.

must be another one of those cosmic coincidences..very bad times for LA.
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No, she is not the cause of the TB outbreak. It is just her name is the name for the TB test. It is a mirror image. Elisa Lam/Lam-Elisa.
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yes, i found that on the related thread. wow. whew.
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LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat what they say might be a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.

Jeff Nguyen, reporting for CBS2 and KCAL9, went downtown in search of people who may have been exposed.

John Williams started living at the Weingart shelter on LA’s Skid Row two weeks ago. Before he could be admitted he had to undergo a screening for tuberculosis.


Full story: [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]
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Trust me the rest of the world and their problems is going or has hit the US and it will be alot worse.
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Yup. A girl dies with the exact same name as a TB test and TB breaks out in the same area. She also died in the sign of Aquarius which is the water carrier and of course she was found in a cistern of water. Sounds like an illuminati sacrifice to me.
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Totally freaky.
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the drug resistant shit comes in from messico
so why the hell aren't the feds "descending upon LA and ENFORCING THE MOST BASIC immigration law ?

and of course in the USA we can't use the BCG vaccine because.........it interferes with testing ????
there's no problem with THIS in countries using it and they've been using it for generations-
and the vaccine is effective.

so called problem is that they cannot do skin tests when someone presents with the symptoms --they do a chest xRay/sputum cultures which would GET DONE ANYWAY to confirm the presence of TB.
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Teen DIES from illness contracted at Disneyland. One day he's fine, the next day he spikes a high fever and died 24-hours later. Coincidence, or somehow connected to all of this?

Source:
[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]
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A good friend of mine, principal of a college, died of TB in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, in the late 1990's. He had a lot of students at his school who had recently immigrated to Canada from Third World countries.

A lot like L.A.

His life could have been saved, but the Canadian doctors were slow to diagnose the disease properly.

Socialized medicine at work.
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no she was not the index case of tb. that is not why they are treating the water at the hotel, is it? no, but that tank should go and all the pipes, if it weren't already a financial burden for the owner, they would do this. no one will ever want to stay there again unless they do.

forgive me, but she was scared of something. did you see the vid of her in the elevator? a smart girl, showing intelligence but also seemed to be escaping a bad situation there??

not, however, any link to the EMERGENCE of MULTI DRUG RESISTANT TB in downtown LA homeless shelter.

must be another one of those cosmic coincidences..very bad times for LA.
 Quoting: eos


Problem here is that the hotel she was staying at was in the same neighborhood as the homeless area. Another upscale gentrification project, with classy hotel, see?

But what if the guy who was stalking her was one of the deadbeats who spotted her walking around outside and followed her in, and staked her out?

Maybe he was the one with the TB.

And maybe this was all planned BECAUSE OF HER NAME.
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LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat what they say might be a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.

Jeff Nguyen, reporting for CBS2 and KCAL9, went downtown in search of people who may have been exposed.

John Williams started living at the Weingart shelter on LA’s Skid Row two weeks ago. Before he could be admitted he had to undergo a screening for tuberculosis.


Full story: [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


can you connect the dots ?

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
LAM Elisa is the name of a Tuberculosos test

[link to www.cnn.com]
Tourists staying at a Los Angeles hotel bathed, brushed teeth and drank water from a tank in which a young woman's body was likely decomposing for more than two weeks, police said.

Elisa Lam's corpse was found in the Cecil Hotel's rooftop water tank by a maintenance worker who was trying to figure out why the water pressure was low Tuesday.

 Quoting: J 33297034


And just the fact that her body was found from 2 minutes of the supposed "Ground Zero" ... Dude this just got freaky
 Quoting: SnakesAndLadders


Yup. A girl dies with the exact same name as a TB test and TB breaks out in the same area. She also died in the sign of Aquarius which is the water carrier and of course she was found in a cistern of water. Sounds like an illuminati sacrifice to me.
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A lot of them are probably smokers...smoker's are much much less likely to get TB...

Look it up, why do you think the Govt promoted smoking for so long in the 30's, 40's and 50's, it was to combat TB...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


what a load of shit. Im a smoker so i which this was true but it isn't.


-smoking damages the lungs and can make smokers more susceptible to TB infection;

-smoking harms the body's immune system, meaning smokers are less able to combat TB infection; and

-smoking reduces the effectiveness of TB treatment which can lead to longer periods of infection and/or more severe forms of the disease.

-If cigarette smokers breathe in TB bacteria, they may be up to three times more likely to develop latent TB infection than non-smokers. The risk of infection also increases the more you smoke and the longer you have been smoking.
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Good info, awesome seeing you around again:)
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Teen DIES from illness contracted at Disneyland. One day he's fine, the next day he spikes a high fever and died 24-hours later. Coincidence, or somehow connected to all of this?

Source:
[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


There is no proof he contacted the disease at Disneyland...absolutely no proof. He could have been ill before that, but he only complained once the fever occurred and his symptoms got worse while he was on the trip. Because someone said he was "fine the first" day doesn't mean he was. Most kids don't complain right away.

"He was fine the first day, and then he was complaining of a fever and not feeling well the next day, and then he progressively got worse,' said Shannon Fredericks, a classmate.

"He continued to brave the illness until he collapsed in front of terrified school friends on a day trip to Santa Monica pier."

He was rushed to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center but died 24 hours later on Tuesday, February 19."
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

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ah I see now, hiding the radiation exposure.. makes sense.
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This was my first thought. Covering up the unraveling of the Fukushima effect.
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LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat what they say might be a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.

Jeff Nguyen, reporting for CBS2 and KCAL9, went downtown in search of people who may have been exposed.

John Williams started living at the Weingart shelter on LA’s Skid Row two weeks ago. Before he could be admitted he had to undergo a screening for tuberculosis.


Full story: [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


can you connect the dots ?

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
LAM Elisa is the name of a Tuberculosos test

[link to www.cnn.com]
Tourists staying at a Los Angeles hotel bathed, brushed teeth and drank water from a tank in which a young woman's body was likely decomposing for more than two weeks, police said.

Elisa Lam's corpse was found in the Cecil Hotel's rooftop water tank by a maintenance worker who was trying to figure out why the water pressure was low Tuesday.

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A lot of them are probably smokers...smoker's are much much less likely to get TB...

Look it up, why do you think the Govt promoted smoking for so long in the 30's, 40's and 50's, it was to combat TB...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


what a load of shit. Im a smoker so i which this was true but it isn't.


-smoking damages the lungs and can make smokers more susceptible to TB infection;

-smoking harms the body's immune system, meaning smokers are less able to combat TB infection; and

-smoking reduces the effectiveness of TB treatment which can lead to longer periods of infection and/or more severe forms of the disease.

-If cigarette smokers breathe in TB bacteria, they may be up to three times more likely to develop latent TB infection than non-smokers. The risk of infection also increases the more you smoke and the longer you have been smoking.
 Quoting: Dapurps


I should always post my sarcasm notice when posting...

But it's true, the Govt promoted smoking as a preventative measure for TB...I have no idea if it worked or not, but we did basically eradicate TB in the USA & Europe without vaccine...

Which is interesting because of how many people smoked during the time that TB became a rare disease...

You would think if it was really a risk factor, it would have ballooned in the 30's, 40's & 50's (America's prime smoking decades) instead of decreased in frequency the way it did...

Food for thought...

Of course that was also before they started loading tobacco with fungicides, pesticides, and herbicides...and before they started treating cigarettes with formaldehyde...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Saddletramp, I know from prior reading that this is true, during the 1800's when TB was the "White Plague" and the main killer in the world, smokers did enjoy some immunity from it. Tried to look this up and find any kind of reference but the net is simply flooded with reports to the contrary, the current propaganda is that smoking will cause more TB infections, both coming from the WHO and country sources.

Do you have any reference that you can grab for us? I read it several years ago and don't recall exactly where. Have read much on epidemics, including the book "The WHite Plague", so it could be anywhere.

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All patients need to take Lam Elisa TB cure asap
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Who gets MDR-TB (multidrug-resistant tuberculosis)?

[link to www.health.ny.gov]
"TB patients with drug sensitive disease may develop drug resistant tuberculosis if they fail to take anti tuberculosis medications as prescribed, as well as TB patients who have been prescribed an ineffective treatment plan. TB cases diseased with MDR-TB can transmit the drug resistant infection to other individuals."

MDR-TB can be transmitted through the air and body fluids. It is highly virulent when airborne and can potentially mutate into a deadly plague.

Scary stuff! Is this a test run?
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