Apostasy & The 3rd Secret of Fatima - it starts at the top echelons... | |
sock puppet User ID: 35721807 United States 03/11/2013 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On 13 May 2000, Cardinal Sodano announced that the Third Secret would be released, during which he implied the secret was about the persecution of Christians in the 20th century that culminated in the failed assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II on 13 May 1981. <I>However, other theologians believe that the secret concerns an apostasy of cardinals, bishops and priests.</I> For instance, Cardinal Ciappi, personal theologian to Pope John Paul II, is quoted by sources as saying, Quoting: Chauncey Gardener 34890086 <b>"In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top." </b> In addition, on a syndicated radio broadcast, Fr. Malachi Martin stated that the Third Secret "doesn't make any sense unless we accept that there will be, or that there is in progress, a wholesale apostasy amongst clerics, and laity in the Catholic Church ...". cool story. |
STFU User ID: 35721807 United States 03/11/2013 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will bring God’s children under the rule of the little horn, who will sit in pompous splendour in the Seat of Peter Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30289643 On February 18, 2013 @ 6:00 pm Download article as PDF My dearly beloved daughter, as the changes within My Church on earth intensify, so also will the voices of the false prophets rise, in unison, to endorse the abomination in My Church. As I reveal to you, the true end time prophet, the Truth – most of which is already known – lies will be spread to confuse all those who follow Me. For every instruction I give to you, for the world, the exact opposite will be declared from the mouths of the false prophets. They will declare words of comfort to My followers who will find the Truth too awful to bear. Through their wicked lies they will bring God’s children under the rule of the little horn, who will sit in pompous splendour in the Seat of Peter. When I told you of the great division in My Church, I did not tell you how this would happen. So hear Me now. Just as the priests during My time on earth rejected My Holy Word, so too will the priests just before My Second Coming reject Me. Not only will they reject My Word, given to you, My daughter, but they will accept the changes, which will be forced upon them. Their sacred gifts will be rendered impotent, as soon as, they accept the blasphemies and the new rules presented to them. My faithful followers will also be divided in their loyalty to My Church on earth. All you must do is to follow My Teachings given to you in My Father’s Book. There is no need to run anywhere, as I Am present amongst you. You know the Truth. It has been fed to you, as Christians. So when you see that God’s Commandments and My Teachings are being re-written, and My Holy Sacraments changed, then you must turn your backs. Do not allow lies to frighten you, rather be frightened for those who accept these new evil acts and laws, purported to be from Me and who fail to understand the Truth. Your Jesus [1] Endnotes: [Image]: [link to www.freetellafriend.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951379 United States 03/11/2013 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On 13 May 2000, Cardinal Sodano announced that the Third Secret would be released, during which he implied the secret was about the persecution of Christians in the 20th century that culminated in the failed assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II on 13 May 1981. <I>However, other theologians believe that the secret concerns an apostasy of cardinals, bishops and priests.</I> For instance, Cardinal Ciappi, personal theologian to Pope John Paul II, is quoted by sources as saying, "In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top." In addition, on a syndicated radio broadcast, Fr. Malachi Martin stated that the Third Secret "doesn't make any sense unless we accept that there will be, or that there is in progress, a wholesale apostasy amongst clerics, and laity in the Catholic Church ...". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35949975 Hong Kong 03/11/2013 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Message: Quoting: Chauncey Gardener 34890086 * A “diabolical disorientation” will permeate the Church. * Multitudes of churchmen—religious, priests, bishops, cardinals—will fall away from the Catholic Faith. * Multitudes of Catholic faithful will be lead into apostasy (and hell) because of blind obedience to false shepherds. [link to fatima.ageofmary.com] When I was in Vatican City, I was amazing at all the wealth on display. Huge gold statues everywhere, and just a kilometre away people were begging and starving. Even at 22yo, I could see the hypocrisy. I agree, It was a gross display of immeasurable wealth. That is Her property! If you let Government come for the Church's private property, then what happens once they're done with that? They will turn on the citizens. The Church is the Most Powerful force for good in this world. It does more charity then any other organization, but people don't even think of that. Let's not have a repeat of the 'enlightenment'...thanks I don't think anyone is really giving a shit about Jimmy Savile's past charity work these days when his name come up. I recall they actually dug up his tomb and gravestone and got rid of it. Maybe that should be pondered a little while.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951379 United States 03/11/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On 13 May 2000, Cardinal Sodano announced that the Third Secret would be released, during which he implied the secret was about the persecution of Christians in the 20th century that culminated in the failed assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II on 13 May 1981. <I>However, other theologians believe that the secret concerns an apostasy of cardinals, bishops and priests.</I> For instance, Cardinal Ciappi, personal theologian to Pope John Paul II, is quoted by sources as saying, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35951379 "In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top." In addition, on a syndicated radio broadcast, Fr. Malachi Martin stated that the Third Secret "doesn't make any sense unless we accept that there will be, or that there is in progress, a wholesale apostasy amongst clerics, and laity in the Catholic Church ...". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20541213 United States 03/12/2013 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On 13 May 2000, Cardinal Sodano announced that the Third Secret would be released, during which he implied the secret was about the persecution of Christians in the 20th century that culminated in the failed assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II on 13 May 1981. <I>However, other theologians believe that the secret concerns an apostasy of cardinals, bishops and priests.</I> For instance, Cardinal Ciappi, personal theologian to Pope John Paul II, is quoted by sources as saying, Quoting: Chauncey Gardener 34890086 <b>"In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top." </b> In addition, on a syndicated radio broadcast, Fr. Malachi Martin stated that the Third Secret "doesn't make any sense unless we accept that there will be, or that there is in progress, a wholesale apostasy amongst clerics, and laity in the Catholic Church ...". Are you Catholic OP? Why did you start this thread? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35959005 Spain 03/14/2013 03:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36084216 I'm beginning to suspect that rumour was started by the freemasons in their doomed attempt to destroy the Church, it is a complete fabrication. right thinking! Firstly, their would be no way they would be able to keep it SECRET, the Secret ;), for the Lord does not give secrets to KEEP unto the Worldly powers, and He does NOT DO any prophecies that can be secret, but sealed only. Anyhow, it is not Biblical, and hence from Satan himself, for that one knows what he plans for his Synagogue... Mary, the Queen of Heaven is utterly Babylonian. |
K.Kool User ID: 23999660 Australia 03/14/2013 04:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36084216 I'm beginning to suspect that rumour was started by the freemasons in their doomed attempt to destroy the Church, it is a complete fabrication. right thinking! Firstly, their would be no way they would be able to keep it SECRET, the Secret ;), for the Lord does not give secrets to KEEP unto the Worldly powers, and He does NOT DO any prophecies that can be secret, but sealed only. Anyhow, it is not Biblical, and hence from Satan himself, for that one knows what he plans for his Synagogue... Mary, the Queen of Heaven is utterly Babylonian. Well, this addition is based on nothing, the third secret is: "After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: 'something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White 'we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God." [link to en.wikipedia.org] Nothing in there speaks of apostasy at the highest levels of the church, nor an antipope or false prophet. Where could the added fabrications come from? Can't be from anyone else but the enemies of the church, the freemasons. Last Edited by #KK# on 03/14/2013 04:20 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35872984 Philippines 03/14/2013 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36084216 I'm beginning to suspect that rumour was started by the freemasons in their doomed attempt to destroy the Church, it is a complete fabrication. Hmm I think you're onto something there. They are relentless though. |
K.Kool User ID: 23999660 Australia 03/14/2013 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36084216 I'm beginning to suspect that rumour was started by the freemasons in their doomed attempt to destroy the Church, it is a complete fabrication. Hmm I think you're onto something there. They are relentless though. Haa, yep you can say that again, and so many swallow it :( Come, Holy Spirit, to GLP and light the way to truth! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36085082 Portugal 03/14/2013 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.tldm.org] Quoting: Chauncey Gardener 34890086 "My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church." - Our Lady of the Roses, May 13, 1978 Yup. If you are familiar with the conspiracy "theories" you know what this means. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36085082 Portugal 03/14/2013 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will bring God’s children under the rule of the little horn, who will sit in pompous splendour in the Seat of Peter Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30289643 On February 18, 2013 @ 6:00 pm Download article as PDF My dearly beloved daughter, as the changes within My Church on earth intensify, so also will the voices of the false prophets rise, in unison, to endorse the abomination in My Church. As I reveal to you, the true end time prophet, the Truth – most of which is already known – lies will be spread to confuse all those who follow Me. For every instruction I give to you, for the world, the exact opposite will be declared from the mouths of the false prophets. They will declare words of comfort to My followers who will find the Truth too awful to bear. Through their wicked lies they will bring God’s children under the rule of the little horn, who will sit in pompous splendour in the Seat of Peter. When I told you of the great division in My Church, I did not tell you how this would happen. So hear Me now. Just as the priests during My time on earth rejected My Holy Word, so too will the priests just before My Second Coming reject Me. Not only will they reject My Word, given to you, My daughter, but they will accept the changes, which will be forced upon them. Their sacred gifts will be rendered impotent, as soon as, they accept the blasphemies and the new rules presented to them. My faithful followers will also be divided in their loyalty to My Church on earth. All you must do is to follow My Teachings given to you in My Father’s Book. There is no need to run anywhere, as I Am present amongst you. You know the Truth. It has been fed to you, as Christians. So when you see that God’s Commandments and My Teachings are being re-written, and My Holy Sacraments changed, then you must turn your backs. Do not allow lies to frighten you, rather be frightened for those who accept these new evil acts and laws, purported to be from Me and who fail to understand the Truth. Your Jesus [1] Endnotes: [Image]: [link to www.freetellafriend.com] Beware with those channelings..."My church","My church","My church"....Jesus saying ^^that^^ ???!?!?!?! It doesn't sound right...His "church" it's not from this planet... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36233902 United States 03/15/2013 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On 13 May 2000, Cardinal Sodano announced that the Third Secret would be released, during which he implied the secret was about the persecution of Christians in the 20th century that culminated in the failed assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II on 13 May 1981. <I>However, other theologians believe that the secret concerns an apostasy of cardinals, bishops and priests.</I> For instance, Cardinal Ciappi, personal theologian to Pope John Paul II, is quoted by sources as saying, Quoting: Chauncey Gardener 34890086 <b>"In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top." </b> In addition, on a syndicated radio broadcast, Fr. Malachi Martin stated that the Third Secret "doesn't make any sense unless we accept that there will be, or that there is in progress, a wholesale apostasy amongst clerics, and laity in the Catholic Church ...". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1001816 Germany 03/15/2013 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the whole idea is to discredit the Catholic Church - it is the 'old skin' the old vehicle of control - they are going to get the plebs to attack it same as they are doing with the bankers and the 1% ers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31011386 The shiny new snake is going to be Putin's Russia with himself as 'gods annointed Tzar' after the Pope flees rome and the Vatican merges with the revived Russian Orthodox Church. These 'Marian apparitions' and proheciesare all part of the plan - greys, Archons or whatever in disguise! It has nothing to do with Putin. The Synagogue of Satan has entered the Vatican. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36486359 United States 03/19/2013 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Message: Quoting: Chauncey Gardener 34890086 * A “diabolical disorientation” will permeate the Church. * Multitudes of churchmen—religious, priests, bishops, cardinals—will fall away from the Catholic Faith. * Multitudes of Catholic faithful will be lead into apostasy (and hell) because of blind obedience to false shepherds. [link to fatima.ageofmary.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36835129 United States 03/25/2013 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Message: Quoting: Chauncey Gardener 34890086 * A “diabolical disorientation” will permeate the Church. * Multitudes of churchmen—religious, priests, bishops, cardinals—will fall away from the Catholic Faith. * Multitudes of Catholic faithful will be lead into apostasy (and hell) because of blind obedience to false shepherds. [link to fatima.ageofmary.com] |
john1054 User ID: 10300657 United States 03/25/2013 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Martin bailed from his obligations as a minister of the Gospel. He wanted to call himself a priest while refusing to live under any disciplines. And for all his fictional crusading, he never anticipated the damage of the very real sex scandal which was exposed just after his death. Why did he ignore it while so many others saw it coming from a mile away? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11504974 United States 03/25/2013 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Martin bailed from his obligations as a minister of the Gospel. He wanted to call himself a priest while refusing to live under any disciplines. And for all his fictional crusading, he never anticipated the damage of the very real sex scandal which was exposed just after his death. Why did he ignore it while so many others saw it coming from a mile away? Quoting: john1054 He in fact worked with various priests and watchdog groups to expose this problem. He wrote a book detailing such events, called Windswept House. You are spreading disinfo. |
john1054 User ID: 10300657 United States 03/25/2013 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Martin bailed from his obligations as a minister of the Gospel. He wanted to call himself a priest while refusing to live under any disciplines. And for all his fictional crusading, he never anticipated the damage of the very real sex scandal which was exposed just after his death. Why did he ignore it while so many others saw it coming from a mile away? Quoting: john1054 He in fact worked with various priests and watchdog groups to expose this problem. He wrote a book detailing such events, called Windswept House. You are spreading disinfo. I read Windswept House and several other of Martin's books. The best (in my mind) was Hostage to the Devil. Windswept was mostly about his own view (somewhat legitimate) of the troubles of Vatican 2, a conspiracy theory he could never quite draw together about how the Vatican was financially compromised for several centuries by the Masons, and a fictive description of JPII that was so far from the mark as to be laughable. It discussed sex a bit but treated it more as a minor symptom of troubles rather than as the major source of disintegration. It was an immense disappointment and the last book by Martin I ever read. Last Edited by john1054 on 03/25/2013 06:07 AM |
john1054 User ID: 10300657 United States 03/25/2013 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Martin bailed from his obligations as a minister of the Gospel. He wanted to call himself a priest while refusing to live under any disciplines. And for all his fictional crusading, he never anticipated the damage of the very real sex scandal which was exposed just after his death. Why did he ignore it while so many others saw it coming from a mile away? Quoting: john1054 He in fact worked with various priests and watchdog groups to expose this problem. He wrote a book detailing such events, called Windswept House. You are spreading disinfo. I read Windswept House and several other of Martin's books. The best (in my mind) was Hostage to the Devil. Windswept was mostly about his own view (somewhat legitimate) of the troubles of Vatican 2, a conspiracy theory he could never quite draw together about how the Vatican was financially compromised for several centuries by the Masons, and a fictive description of JPII that was so far from the mark as to be laughable. It discussed sex a bit but treated it more as a minor symptom of troubles rather than as the major source of disintegration. It was an immense disappointment and the last book by Martin I ever read. When my hero, JPII, died in office rather than step down as so many journalists had predicted and as Martin expected, I thought: "In your face, Malachi Martin, wherever you are." Last Edited by john1054 on 03/25/2013 06:12 AM |
john1054 User ID: 10300657 United States 03/25/2013 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that I'm thinking about Martin, I still feel an affection for the man's ideas. Hostage to the Devil was a brilliant work, in my mind, linking demonic activity to heretical thinking. It showed that intellectual waywardness had a major preternatural effect. But I'm still angry at him for defaming JPII. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37019021 United States 03/28/2013 05:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moses foretells the end of days in Deuteronomy, describing a time of apostasy, in which people of Israel become "settled upon their lees". They do not keep the Laws of Moses and resort to idolatry. Quoting: Chauncey Gardener 34890086 [They] would corrupt themselves, and make a graven image; this was the sin that would most easily beset them. Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire? As the seas turn black and feel like mud, and all will know the wrath and atonement of their sins? You shall utterly be destroyed, scattered among the nations, And your sin shall be made your punishment. There shall you serve gods, the work of men's hands, be compelled to serve them, whether you will or no, or, through your own sottishness and stupidity, you will find no better succours to apply yourselves in your captivity. —Deuteronomy 4:26–28 [link to en.wikipedia.org] |