Thoughts & Theories: EARTH'S MOON - Share Your Knowledge

There are too many coincidences about the moon for it to be 'natural'

They way it revolves on its axis so it always has the same face pointing towards Earth and that it is just the perfect size and distance from us for a solar eclipse.

That is the freaky part of it all!

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The Moon was the inspiration for the Mona Lisa.

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Oh, dont get me wrong MO, by control mechanism, I dont necessarily mean a bad controlling mechanism, maybe more of a harmonic balancer, (fine tuning) used to invoke a particular vibration that we need to live within for a period of time.

Liken it to young chilren feeling more comfortable with belief systems that shield them at a young age from trauma and concepts too harsh to really need to deal with when young minds and opinions arent formed yet.

On a cosmic level, maybe we just need to think a bit about why we're here, and deal with it for a period of time, bfore we really have our eyes openned!

I love just looking at the thing, and it never stops amazing me that its 'out there', and therefore, so are we.

So just to clarify my ideas on it, I dont see it as a bad thing either, just surplus to our needs in the future.

How amazing would it be to see it go one day (ah-lah- Space1999) and be replaced by two smaller sattelites maybe?

I guess a lot of the speculation depends on how you view planets etc, as living, thinking things or as chunks of rock. Personally, I lean towards living, and concious, but having said that, I think the moon is dead.

According to first grade science, the moon does not spin because the gravitational forces from the Earth cause the moon to be tidally locked.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All moons are tidally locked (besides "irregular" moons of Saturn).

If earth was terraformed to be able to support life, then there's a good chance that the moon has a larger role to play then just controlling the tides. The moon seems to have some power over life on earth, for example how it can affect our moods and even how it has affected the way life on earth has evolved in some cases.

Look at flowers that only bloom during a full moon... (oddly, the two that bloom exclusively during a full moon, are poisonous)

[link to www.ehow.com]

So, in my opinion the moon was necessary/partially responsible for life on earth as it is now. If it was placed there intentionally with that purpose then it was placed there by someone/something and whoever it was would have a pretty good vantage point to observe earth and the life created here...

Thank you for helping me understand your fascinating perspective on this!!! Your posts were truly great.








Now this made my jaw drop. WHAT A THOUGHT.

So say the moon was put in place by intelligent beings in order to cultivate/control specific life on the planet...

It's believable.

So then, what if that was a long time ago and the study period is totally over and earth is abandoned by 'them'? The moon looks pretty damn vacant to me. Are looks that deceiving? Is something still watching? From where??

Moon=nibiru. It orbits the SUN, not the earth! Its orbital shape is a 13 sided polygon.

If you want to take the thought of it being an observatory to the next level, think about how we haven't been back to the moon since 1972. Is it just a lack of scientific purpose or is it possible that they have been scared/weren't allowed to?

As for the study being "abandoned", I doubt it considering the real show is just about to begin...

Finally mankind, the most evolved sentient being on earth, has the power to save themselves or destroy themselves. What will be the outcome....

The rotation rate and the orbital period are the same.

Or, it just cost too much.

I thought the moon did spin, just on an axis perpendicular to the Earth? Which is why we cant ever see the back half.

Hey, has anyone ever asked an astronomer about the moon's cycles? Why we see them as we do?

It's so much more complicated than expected!

I woke up one morning, and saw the full moon at about 9am, and the Sun at about the same height in the sky. It struck me as odd as I had always assumed the phases were shadow lines cast by Earth. I inherrantly knew that was wrong, but still, its how I had it in my head.

So, I put it up on an astro forum, and got these unbelievable long and complex explainations of why.

Dr Astro, here, also went in to ellaborate detail.

Wasnt until I saw a Nassim Haremine vid on the 'spiralling of the planets behind the Sun' that it made more sense.

Just depends on where the moon is in relation to us and the Sun. In a spirical motion, travelling behind the Sun, and not in concentric circles around it, with the moon doing similarly around us, you can visualise the moon's phases as it passes out in front of us as our system itself spirals along through the galaxy.

Not a moon vid, but is what I was referring to earlier -

The Moon has approximately 1/4 Earth's diameter, 1/50 Earth's volume, and 1/80 Earth's mass. Earth is very dense overall (it is the densest planet in the Solar System), but the Moon is light for its size. The difference is partly because Earth has a large core of iron and other heavy metallic elements, while the Moon has only a small core, if it has a core at all.

Hollow Moon.

my thoughts on the moon are summarized well by this video:



full moons increase chaotic behavior. ask any emergency room, fire department, police department, or service sector employee.

Explain why all the planets are found within a few degrees of the ecliptic. If two planets are on the ecliptic but 180 degree apart (say, Jupiter setting just before dawn, and Venus setting just before sunset), then a line drawn through them passes through the Sun.

The geometry of a spiral does not superimpose on this.

My theory is that the "Cheese Gods" put it there.

Yup, once per orbit due to tidal lock, as is the case with most moons in the solar system.

The planets do not spiral behind the sun. Sometimes the planets are actually "ahead" of the sun in its motion around the galaxy. I went into "elaborate detail" because that is my nature. I know a lot about the motion of the moon and I enjoy sharing that knowledge, but I hate simplistic explanations that gloss over important details or are simply wrong as is the "planets spiraling behind the sun" explanation.

The most life changing list I have read on glp. Bam. I love you.

And props to keepings it as fucking real as it gets.

Actually I think Neil deGrasse Tyson sums up why we haven't been back pretty succinctly.

I mean, yes, the answer is that it's expensive and we didn't want to keep spending as much as we needed to in order to keep the Apollo program going, but I think the above answers the real reason WHY we lost the will to go. To find the answer you have to look at what was actually motivating us as a nation in the first place. That's not there anymore and it seems like 9 times out of 10 laymen I talk to don't think we should be spending "money on space," period.

And for anyone who thinks that "doesn't count" as rotation for some reason, imagine these two hypothetical scenarios.

One, the earth vanishes. Just poof, gone, with no change made to the momentum of the moon. The moon continues to orbit the sun on its own; how long is the moon's rotational period in this scenario (hint, it's the same as it is now)?

Two, you're an astronaut standing on the moon at its equator. You have a rocket there on the surface with you and you want to go home back to earth. To save fuel, what direction do you need to launch in to minimize the change in velocity (delta-V) needed to reach lunar orbit? Hint: in order to establish a circular orbit around a planet or moon you need to be traveling at a certain speed at a given radius relative to the center of the planet regardless of its rotation, thus if you launch WITH the rotation of the planet at the equator you essentially get the planet's rotational velocity "for free."

I'm sure it's budgetary, but c'mon... Aliens that created our solar system millions and millions of years ago, watching us in the greatest science experiment of all time from a gigantic observatory orbiting our planet...???

How cool would that be.

Paramount pictures should be calling me any day now...

Hey Dr Astro. I know you cop a heap on this site, and you may have interpreted what I said as a snark.

Not so at all. I listen to a lot of what you have to say in VC etc, and you clearly know your stuff.

Like anything, its one perspective, and makes sense to you.

This thread however seems to me to be about wierdness and interesting things people know or have heard about the moon. I am sure there is a tonne of information regarding wierdness more in line with the scientific communities take on things, that you can share.

That Degrasi vid is great and applies to a lot of things that have been sucked up by triviality in todays world.

But IMHO, it isnt why we havent gone back, or even there in the first place! LOL.

Sounds like a variation on 2001: A Space Odyssey. I'd watch it!

This is pretty interesting, particularly the info about reverberations, and the Zulus..
[link to waitingforthehollowmoon.blogspot.com]

I think the moon should be shaved, sterilized, and destroyed. There is no reasonable explanation as too why this monstrosity should be in our orbit. And it's completely coincidental that we have perfectly lined up eclipses. What up with that.

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There is one aspect of the moon which has no scientific reason for being, it just is and no one can definitively attribute a reason for it to be so. All any scientist, myself included, can say about it is that it happens and it is temporary.

The moon has the same apparent diameter in the sky as the sun, allowing for total solar eclipses such that we can see hints of prominences and the beautiful solar corona surrounding the sun.
[link to www.mreclipse.com]
The moon's orbit is elliptical (as is earth's, just slightly) so sometimes the moon is too far from us to completely cover the sun resulting in an annular eclipse, but total eclipses are possible.

Eventually tidal acceleration of the moon will cause it to drift too far from us for total solar eclipses to ever happen, but at least for the immediate span of human existence, it happens. Some say it's evidence of God, some say it's evidence of deliberate alien intervention, some say it's just a coincidence. The only thing that can be proven is that it happens and that there will come a day that it does not happen any more (in about 1.4 billion years or so).

Last Edited by Astromut on 03/12/2013 04:37 AM

How did it come about in the first place?

Well it just did, it's a natural consequence of the distance/size ratio of the moon compared to the distance/size ratio of the sun. Whether that is a "deliberate" feature engineered by a higher intelligence, be it alien, spiritual, or other, or just one of life's lucky coincidences is up to you to decide.

Hm! That is one hell of a coincidence. :D I don't have any thoughts or theories. It just doesn't make sense. It's huge man! Compared to the other planet's moons that is. I dunno!

I read the book "Who built the moon" and it all seems a bit weird to me. What about the experiment that we sent missiles to the moon and it rang like a bell for hours? Is that all hokum? I wonder if it's hollow! Well anyway I'm just wondering out loud. Thanks for responding Astro! :D