Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35985543 Germany 03/17/2013 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES Cyprus bailout a major game changer Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8339174 This from Lars Seier Christensen co-founder & CEO Saxo Bank A/S (A serious comment you should truly take note of) Shocking! It is difficult to describe the weekend bailout package to Cyprus in any other way. The confiscation of 6.75 percent of small depositors' money and 9.9 percent of big depositors' funds is without precedence that I can think of in a supposedly civilised and democratic society. But maybe the European Union (EU) is no longer a civilised democracy? I heard rumours about this when I visited Limassol last week, but dismissed them as completely outlandish. And yet, here we are. The consequences are unpredictable, but we are clearly looking at a significant paradigm shift. This is a breach of fundamental property rights, dictated to a small country by foreign powers and it must make every bank depositor in Europe shiver. Although the representatives at the bailout press conference tried to present this as a one-off, they were not willing to rule out similar measures elsewhere - not that it would have mattered much as the trust is gone anyway. It is now difficult to expect any kind of limitation to what measures the Troika and EU might take when the crisis really starts to bite. if you can do this once, you can do it again. if you can confiscate 10 percent of a bank customer's money, you can confiscate 25, 50 or even 100 percent. I now believe we will see worse as the panic increases, with politicians desperately trying to keep the EUR alive. Depositors in other prospective bailout countries must be running scared - is it safe to keep money in an Italian, Spanish or Greek bank any more? I dont know, must be the answer. Is it prudent to take the risk? You decide. I fear this will lead to massive capital outflows from weak Eurozone countries, just about the last thing they need right now. Even from the EU as a whole, I suspect, as the banking union is in place in most countries already. This is a major, MAJOR game changer and the fallout will be with us for a long time to come. I believe it could be the beginning of the end for the Eurozone as this is an unbelievable blow to the already challenged trust that might be left among investors. Talk about a possible own goal. Market reaction? it must be very good for gold - and for safe-haven countries like Switzerland, Singapore and economically more healthy non-Euro contries in, for example, Scandinavia. I would think the EUR and associated markets will be undermined by increasing lack of confidence when the full implications become clear for investors. This is full-blown socialism and I still cannot believe this really happened. Be careful out there... [link to www.tradingfloor.com] get your money from the bank next week. in 2 weeks the banks will probably not be able to pay you because everyone ales alredy empied his account! RUN! RUSH! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36185381 Greece 03/17/2013 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES oh wonderful. the mighty EU in the last few years is always trying to teach us here democracy, always saying we're losing democratic values in Hungary, the country is turning into a dictatorship etc etc. and now this same EU basically gives out an order to Cyprus to do these haircuts on bank accounts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18612185 Seriously? this EU is trying to teach us about democracy? yea, because the agreement of EU leaders and the government of Cyprus with the banks there, over the money of people is very democratic. I agree with you 100%. And of course we all realize that it is not a problem of Hungary, or Greece, or Cyprous alone. EU and the Eurozone are turning into a facist mechanism attacking the nations and people of Europe. When this crisis started the EU tried to convience everybody that Greece was a unique case and Greeks haven't done their homework. 3 years later 5 countries are under the EFSF supervision and Italy fighting hard to avoid it. That is a total of 6 countries which count for the 1/3 of the Eurozone. Do you remember when Euro was born? All the Euro enthousiasts claimed that the new currency will provide EU countries with low interests on loans, free capital transfers and a solid economic environment. Now the countries and the people of all these countries are being punished because they benefited from the advantages that Euro provided. Cyprous for ex. everybody are saying who cares about russian mafia losing a 10% of their account but they don't remember that it was the EU who allowed and encourage this to happen. Spain for example everybody says is a banking problem, but nobody accuses the EU and the ECB because they helped Spanish banks to behave the way they did in the years before the crisis. |
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insertfunnyusername User ID: 35967835 Greece 03/17/2013 05:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES Efthimia Efthimiou ‏@EfiEfthimiou Quoting: insertfunnyusername Skai tv reports that ECB urged #Cyprus to vote for the measures today, before markets open on Monday. Cyprus replied "this is impossible" QUICK! Send Venizelos and Giorgakis to change their mind "or else...". Tsup bro? Can you see anything happening or will they bend over to pressure Greek-style? |
An Ordinary Greek User ID: 36232885 Greece 03/17/2013 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES The damage already happened bro. By "attacking" INSURED and GUARANTEED deposits you officially declared war to your own citizens. With that measure you openly claim that ALL of your citizens are thieves. As I said before, RIP Eurozone 1999-2013. And I won't be surprised to see an escalation with Turkey. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35390350 United Kingdom 03/17/2013 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES If UK government guarantees Uk armed forces personnel with savings in Cyprus banks, is the UK taxpayer not indirectly helping this bailout ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35985543 Whats funny is all the expats complaining saying the british government should do something. Wait a fucking minute YOU GUYS FUCKING LEFT! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36348318 Portugal 03/17/2013 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES Business Insider ‏@businessinsider Cyprus Parliament Postpones Emergency Session To Discuss Bank Levy [link to read.bi] |
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insertfunnyusername User ID: 35967835 Greece 03/17/2013 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES The damage already happened bro. By "attacking" INSURED and GUARANTEED deposits you officially declared war to your own citizens. With that measure you openly claim that ALL of your citizens are thieves. Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 36232885 As I said before, RIP Eurozone 1999-2013. And I won't be surprised to see an escalation with Turkey. Indeed. I won't be surprised at all tbh, if the haircut won't pass they will involve Turkey as the boogeyman, business as usual. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36084851 United Kingdom 03/17/2013 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES Published on March 15, 2013 UNDER threat of litigation, the Bank of Cyprus (BoC) has awarded former CEO Andreas Eliades compensation to the tune of some €2 million. [link to www.cyprus-mail.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18612185 Hungary 03/17/2013 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES oh wonderful. the mighty EU in the last few years is always trying to teach us here democracy, always saying we're losing democratic values in Hungary, the country is turning into a dictatorship etc etc. and now this same EU basically gives out an order to Cyprus to do these haircuts on bank accounts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18612185 Seriously? this EU is trying to teach us about democracy? yea, because the agreement of EU leaders and the government of Cyprus with the banks there, over the money of people is very democratic. I agree with you 100%. And of course we all realize that it is not a problem of Hungary, or Greece, or Cyprous alone. EU and the Eurozone are turning into a facist mechanism attacking the nations and people of Europe. When this crisis started the EU tried to convience everybody that Greece was a unique case and Greeks haven't done their homework. 3 years later 5 countries are under the EFSF supervision and Italy fighting hard to avoid it. That is a total of 6 countries which count for the 1/3 of the Eurozone. Do you remember when Euro was born? All the Euro enthousiasts claimed that the new currency will provide EU countries with low interests on loans, free capital transfers and a solid economic environment. Now the countries and the people of all these countries are being punished because they benefited from the advantages that Euro provided. Cyprous for ex. everybody are saying who cares about russian mafia losing a 10% of their account but they don't remember that it was the EU who allowed and encourage this to happen. Spain for example everybody says is a banking problem, but nobody accuses the EU and the ECB because they helped Spanish banks to behave the way they did in the years before the crisis. you're right. this whole thing just shows how backwards this whole EU and Eurozone systems are. I just used our country as an example to reflect on these double standards, because the situation here is what I know the best. and it's not just the problem of this or that country, the system itself is a bunch of lies and mirages. and yea, who cares about the russian mafia. but it's also the many average people of Cyprus who are gonna suffer the worst if this all goes through. mobsters probably have bank accounts elsewhere as well and yea, we can only hear the ECB and EUrocrats criticizing the various countries. but has there been any official criticism of the ECB and all the idiots in Brussels? I only hear the common people criticizing them, but they themselves seem to think they are doing everything the right way. is the EU really run by a bunch of monkeys? |
recollector User ID: 26964049 United Kingdom 03/17/2013 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES Business Insider ‏@businessinsider Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36348318 Cyprus Parliament Postpones Emergency Session To Discuss Bank Levy [link to read.bi] LMAO ! In other words, they are AFRAID to vote because people will SEE WHO WAS FOR ! Also, with this posponing, the measure will be effective on Tuesday morning. Bank runs, or we will all be fuck'd |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36348318 Portugal 03/17/2013 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES The damage already happened bro. By "attacking" INSURED and GUARANTEED deposits you officially declared war to your own citizens. With that measure you openly claim that ALL of your citizens are thieves. Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 36232885 As I said before, RIP Eurozone 1999-2013. And I won't be surprised to see an escalation with Turkey. Indeed. I won't be surprised at all tbh, if the haircut won't pass they will involve Turkey as the boogeyman, business as usual. I my friend how are you? I'm Luisport, i have pc problems in the last days. I'm in other person comp now! |
An Ordinary Greek User ID: 36232885 Greece 03/17/2013 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES Indeed. I won't be surprised at all tbh, if the haircut won't pass they will involve Turkey as the boogeyman, business as usual. Quoting: insertfunnyusername And bear in mind all Cypriot males have G3 rifles and bullets at home in case of war. Maybe this is the "rapisma" ("smack in the face") Elder Paisios was talking about years ago concerning Cyprus, and not the S-300 missile fiasco. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5847241 Indonesia 03/17/2013 05:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES hmm what if US president want to be a hero and say "US govt will bailout cyprus without any requirement" because last time he said no need to worry about US economy, so US economy is good enough |
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doggie User ID: 36259159 Spain 03/17/2013 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES The damage already happened bro. By "attacking" INSURED and GUARANTEED deposits you officially declared war to your own citizens. With that measure you openly claim that ALL of your citizens are thieves. Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 36232885 As I said before, RIP Eurozone 1999-2013. And I won't be surprised to see an escalation with Turkey. Indeed. I won't be surprised at all tbh, if the haircut won't pass they will involve Turkey as the boogeyman, business as usual. I my friend how are you? I'm Luisport, i have pc problems in the last days. I'm in other person comp now! |
insertfunnyusername User ID: 35967835 Greece 03/17/2013 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES Don't forget that troika was pressing Cyprus for gas deposits too, details of what the bailout includes in terms of gas are not known yet, troika was asking for months that future revenues from natgas must go to a special account managed by them off course, this is the main reason why negotiations took that long, that's the real money here, some have described this as Attila mk.3 Cypus Commerce Minister: Cyprus can manage its own gas thanks [link to www.cyprus-mail.com] EU, IMF want Cypriot natural gas, but will get nothing - Archbishop [link to english.ruvr.ru] Cyprus govt spokesman: Some are coveting the Russian deposits and possibly natural gas in Cyprus [link to translate.google.gr] [link to translate.google.gr] |
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Anonymous User ID: 33714435 Australia 03/17/2013 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES On another note in Greece "Loukanikos the Riot dog" and his mates go up against troika. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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