US Marine goes Postal in Road Rage..Patient Man sits and listens | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1391964 United States 04/02/2013 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This why you carry one on your hip and one between the seats. Quoting: euc In Texas they passed the "motorists protection act" in 2009 allowing ANYONE legal to purchase a firearm the ability to maintain a concealed firearm in their vehicle loaded & chambered and within reach. "HB-1815: Updated "Traveling" Law Passed in 2005 (currently called the Motorists Protection Act) Because of its history, terrain, and environment, guns have always been an important tool in Texas. From its earliest days Texans were allowed to carry guns for self-protection and for the protection of property (think: cattle drives, stage coaches, trains, etc). Texans commonly carried guns while traveling, and the law allowed them do so. However, over the years, the definition of "traveling" came under question. Did it mean traveling across town? Did one have to cross a county line? What if one traveled to another city, but then the next day had business in the same city? Was he still traveling? The problem was that "traveling" was never defined by the original law, so in modern times a person could never be sure whether or not it was okay to have a gun in his or her vehicle. A study of case law didn't help much, because various judges interpreted it different ways. The conclusion was that if you decided to carry a gun in your car, you were pretty much at the mercy of any officer who stopped you and the court officer he answered to. Fortunately, the definition of traveling became irrelevant for those with a CHL, but what about those who did not have a concealed carry license? In 2005 Texas passed a bill establishing that a person is presumed to be traveling if he or she is in a private motor vehicle, is not engaged in criminal activity, is not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm, and is not a member of a criminal street gang. The clear intent was to protect law-abiding citizens' right to carry a handgun concealed for personal protection in their cars or trucks without needing a Concealed Handgun License (CHL)." [link to vesler.blogspot.com] |
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Exorcise This User ID: 9377882 United States 04/02/2013 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Didn't he say that he rear ended him with his girlfriend in the car? I wonder why the guy would not talk to him. It seems this is why the marine went crazy because he just hit his car and would not talk but ignored him. That might make me upset too. Of course, not to the level as the marine but why wouldn't he talk to him? Quoting: PatiencePlz Well, i know i was taught never to admit guilt in those scenarios; let the insurance companies deal with it. Don't want the other person's lawyer to have any more ammunition. Imo |
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Exorcise This User ID: 9377882 United States 04/02/2013 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | those advocating shooting him are the reason that you are loosing the right to own guns bit by bit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14016215 how the fuck would you know. Shut the fuck up and go see a dentist. Brilliant "long term thinking" poster of the night award. Edited to add... It makes the justifications of LIBTARDS and TPTB easier to sell to the sheeple. you can STFU as well. Haha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35346996 United States 04/02/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OCEANSIDE - A Camp Pendleton Marine Sergeant was detained after being caught on camera in a violent road rage incident. The subject is a Purple Heart recipient, whose name is being withheld until formal charges are made. According to the victim, the Marine cut them off Monday and repeatedly slammed his brakes. After stopping, the suspect allegedly got out of his vehicle and began kicking the side of the victim's car, screaming obscenity laced demands. The victim's passenger claims to have been traumatized by the erratic behavior of the Marine and wants their identity concealed. A Camp Pendleton spokesperson said the Marine was detained and cited for communicating threats. [link to www.sandiego6.com] |
Exorcise This User ID: 9377882 United States 04/02/2013 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so I'm going to put it out there. My little brother is the driver. I'm the Marine in a wheelchair recording this. This guy first tried to speed up and cus off when he was in a small merge lane, then realized the truck was bigger than his car. He slammed on his brakes. We didn't know what he was doing until it happened. Then he came around the vehicle and decided to cut us off not nearly even as a car length away. So close to my truck that he almost hit us. Then gets in front of us WMSH starts to break check us where we couldn't even see his trunk. My brother backed off and kept trying to get distance. The 3 rapid brake checks and then finally he locks up his brakes. We tried to move. If was less than 10mph and the guy locks up his brakes and at this point his car I could see in his backseat and when locked up we hit him. This was so quick there wasn't anything we could do. This guy gets out of his car and starting screaming at us, I try to talk to him and that's when he said he was going to beat my brother and started kicking my truck which then my brother rolls up the window. Then I start to record because now he's vandalizing my truck and I can't get out to talk or calm him down because I can't walk. This is the result of it. Luckily two witnesses who witnessed all of it stopped and made statements. He is being held at fault by MP and investigator. How this video got vitally out I'm unsure but I as a Marine I understand PTSD and I understand things happen. But atleast maybe he can get some counseling or talk to someone. Quoting: video recorder 35054763 Look, we're in YOUR side here. WTF? |
Exorcise This User ID: 9377882 United States 04/02/2013 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You wouldn't say that to his face. Look...obviously he was out of control...I get it. We make killers. It's not a switch...can't just be turned off. We don't know the circumstances. From listening...it sounds as if the guy in the car may have popped off...we don't know. I'm glad the guy didn't get out though...and keep in mind that this is an example of Marine on Marine violence...lol. He called the one guy a pouge...that means non-infantry or non-combat arms. That could have easily been me at one time. I'm several years out now...and a lot more level headed. All I ask is that you remember that this young man is a trained killing machine. Every waking moment of his life is spent learning about killing and training to kill. He probably has at least two combat tours under his belt, judging by his age. We're machines...which is why we're so good at what we do. It's unfortunate that it can't be "trained" out of us...only time can make being a civilian, or operating in and around civilians easier. I hate that his video made it to the internet...The Marine is honorable...but he isn't acting honorable. I'm sure, hindsight being 20/20, he'd give anything to be able to go back and act differently. Go ahead and destroy me for taking up for him...all I can say in my defense, and his, is that I understand him. If you haven't walked in his shoes, it may not be possible to understand his behavior...and again, I'm not saying he didn't screw up, because he did. Just try to understand why it is that he is the way he is. I might not say it to his face, but I would certainly pepper spray it to his face. With much relish. How's that? Just try to understand why it is that I am the way i am. |
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salty1 User ID: 28319578 United States 04/02/2013 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I might not say it to his face, but I would certainly pepper spray it to his face. With much relish. How's that? Just try to understand why it is that I am the way i am. Hell, if I witnessed this behavior, I'd hold him while you sprayed. Might need something stronger than pepper spray though...we train with that stuff. CS gas won't do it either. Mace maybe? What's in mace? I like your avatar. saltyone USMC 0341/0331 |
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salty1 User ID: 28319578 United States 04/02/2013 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a fact most us marines would be unemployed if they weren't in the armed forces Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24794489 so yeah a bunch of welfare folks occupying front line infantry Have I mentioned how much I hate canada and folks from canada? Also...I've been around your troops...they're a freaking joke. Have a great rest of your day. saltyone USMC 0341/0331 |
Exorcise This User ID: 9377882 United States 04/02/2013 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I might not say it to his face, but I would certainly pepper spray it to his face. With much relish. How's that? Just try to understand why it is that I am the way i am. Hell, if I witnessed this behavior, I'd hold him while you sprayed. Might need something stronger than pepper spray though...we train with that stuff. CS gas won't do it either. Mace maybe? What's in mace? I like your avatar. I haven't been able to find mace, only silly pepper sprays. I carry them on my key chains. I would prefer mace, though. I think mace is illegal. I would also like to have a set of ceramic knuckledusters, which is also not legal for civilians. I read about them in a Jack Reacher novel. Apparently, the ceramic version makes brass knuckles feel like you're being tickled with a feather. Have you heard this? Everything i want in life is illegal Thanks for the avatar compliment. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37322347 United States 04/02/2013 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PTSD, stress will do this to you. Stress before deployment, stress after deployment. Fear of losing life and family. Fear of losing everything. Watching your battle buddies die in front of you in a horrific combat fight, fear, stress anger, building up until you just blow up and release the pressure. Releasing the pressure... That's all you see here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37101557 No one knows this Marines pain except the Marines he serves with, they know. The civilians will never understand this unless they've been to hell. We are all like the quiet guy in the car, safe, silent and still... not knowing the pains of war. Fuck that lame ass excuse. So anyone who has been to war has the right to come back and act like that?! They should just be give a blank check? Oh the poor rabid dog.....maybe he will ok if we just love him more... only a very sheltered person would say that. When you go over, sometimes you just end up back there. If you don't understand it, button up like this guy. Alot of returning vets are still only in their mid 20s trying to find the balance, sometimes a little helplessly. ceroquil. Google it. These rabid dogs should be removed from society and be put down, PERMANENTLY if they can not readjust from their own decision to join in the first place. |
salty1 User ID: 28319578 United States 04/02/2013 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These rabid dogs should be removed from society and be put down, PERMANENTLY if they can not readjust from their own decision to join in the first place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37322347 What about people that never served but still act this way? Would you have them put down also? Just curious. saltyone USMC 0341/0331 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37322347 United States 04/02/2013 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These rabid dogs should be removed from society and be put down, PERMANENTLY if they can not readjust from their own decision to join in the first place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37322347 What about people that never served but still act this way? Would you have them put down also? Just curious. I think that anyone who has military training to kill civilians barehanded should be at the top of the list. If they can't readadjust, they should be given the rope and instructions on how they can help themselves. Fuck this PTSD shit. You never heard this shit from the WW2 vets. This generation of vets like to brag how they got to fuck the headless body of a 10 year old girl while her body was still warm. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24794489 Canada 04/02/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a fact most us marines would be unemployed if they weren't in the armed forces Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24794489 so yeah a bunch of welfare folks occupying front line infantry Have I mentioned how much I hate canada and folks from canada? Also...I've been around your troops...they're a freaking joke. Have a great rest of your day. us marine detected |
nutmeg User ID: 35189740 United States 04/03/2013 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guy was a real wimp. Just throwing a wittle temper tantrum. I would have stepped out and let him swing at me once, before reducing him to a bloody, crying, and whimpering mess, on the pavement. The MPs stated if my little brother would have gotten out of the vehicle during all this knowing what the Marine intentions were my brother would have arrested as well and would also cause the situation to be provoked because of stepping out. We did try to talk to him I'm the beginning when he first got out of his car and came to my truck and that's when he started to kick my truck and say a few words I'm sure yall have seen already. At that point my brother rolled up the window and we sat there and I recorded it because at that point it wasn't wm accident anymore it was also vandalism and I didn't know if anyone was going to stop or be a witness to it. How its out on the internet I don't know. I have been asking for it to be removed because regardless of his actions I still respect his identity and integrity. He is a fellow Marine. I'm the Marine in a wheelchair unable to walk and my brother drives me to my appts and to work. I just hope regardless of all this someone will help him especially if he has PTSD. You're paralyzed. If anyone should have PTSD, it should be YOU! You are being too kind by making excuses for this bully. I can bet you that if his grade school friends and high school friends saw this video, they would not be surprised at all. He probably was the jerk to girls in school and a bully to everyone. He has anger issues...a badass attitude that he had before he joined the marines. He's just a punk. I said earlier that I volunteer for the USO and a military wife. I have been associated with many Vietnam veterans. I even worked in a military hospital during the Vietnam war....treated many medevacs. They saw the worse because there are some of these veterans at the USO are in wheelchairs...they have no legs, and there are several with Purple Hearts. They are all gentle, good-hearted guys. My brother and some of my friends were in Vietnam also. I haven't seen one act like this! Why all these PTSD excuses from Iraq and Afghanistan? Last Edited by nutmeg on 04/03/2013 07:56 AM |
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nutmeg User ID: 35189740 United States 04/03/2013 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PTSD, stress will do this to you. Stress before deployment, stress after deployment. Fear of losing life and family. Fear of losing everything. Watching your battle buddies die in front of you in a horrific combat fight, fear, stress anger, building up until you just blow up and release the pressure. Releasing the pressure... That's all you see here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37101557 No one knows this Marines pain except the Marines he serves with, they know. The civilians will never understand this unless they've been to hell. We are all like the quiet guy in the car, safe, silent and still... not knowing the pains of war. Wonder why we didn't hear about PTSD from guys that endured the horrors of WWII? OMG...I just completed a comment here saying the SAME thing! Now they can commit crimes and blame it on "PTSD"...a convenient excuse. How about the young vet who's suing United because he claims he has PTSD and they delayed or cancelled his flight and his meds were in his suitcase in the cargo area. DUH! Then he said an employee kicked his dog...the dog that he must have onboard with him because of his "PTSD." He said an employee kicked his dog so hard that the dog flew up in the air and landed on someone's lap. No way do I believe that! I say it's all a lie, but some judge will probably give him a large amount of money from the airline. He's counting on his "PTSD" excuse to work. Last Edited by nutmeg on 04/03/2013 07:57 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36537992 United States 04/03/2013 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy should have had a 9mm, calmly rolled the window down and when the guy reached in and struck him, he should have blown his head off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37322347 manslaughter BULLSHIT! A trained killer attacking someone sitting in a car?! BULLSHITT!!! Why even wait to get hit. He should be legally able to blow his head off. In fact that passenger chick in his car should legally be able to get out of the car while the monkey dude is distracted by the man in the window and blow the monkey head off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36537992 United States 04/03/2013 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He only went three quarters retard. If Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593102 he had really been out of control he would have grabbed a tire iron, broken the window and that would have been that. He walked a fine line, like sergents are taught to do. Controlled chaos. And that makes everything he did OK????????????? Doesn't make it o.k. But clearly, if he had really wanted to, he could have gotten into the car. Probably could have open handed his way through the window. He was just putting on a show. Right that is why I say what he did only deserves 5 years in prison. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35346996 United States 04/03/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're paralyzed. If anyone should have PTSD, it should be YOU! You are being too kind by making excuses for this bully. Quoting: nutmeg I can bet you that if his grade school friends and high school friends saw this video, they would not be surprised at all. He probably was the jerk to girls in school and a bully to everyone. He has anger issues...a badass attitude that he had before he joined the marines. He's just a punk. That's the way most girls like it, including his wife and all the other women I'm sure he has affairs with when he's not home. Bitches LOVE that shit!!! I guarantee you he's had 10 times more women than that dork with the glasses will ever have in his entire lifetime! |
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Alaskan User ID: 37397551 United States 04/03/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a fact most us marines would be unemployed if they weren't in the armed forces Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24794489 so yeah a bunch of welfare folks occupying front line infantry Have I mentioned how much I hate canada and folks from canada? Also...I've been around your troops...they're a freaking joke. Have a great rest of your day. us marine detected . As a former Marine(no combat) This Punks actions ARE Unacceptable Conduct for a person in The Corp. He'll get office hours Lose some pay/rank or maybe court martial since the Video has sorta gone viral they may make an example out of him with brig time and a BCD. . |