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Hard Eight User ID: 35278639 United States 04/10/2013 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Goldman Sachs downgraded its 2013 price target for gold (Exchange:XAU=) and advised investors to short the precious metal, in a commodities report out on Wednesday. 24K gold bar. REUTERS/Bobby Yip/Files"Despite resurgence in euro area risk aversion and disappointing U.S. economic data , gold prices are unchanged over the past month, highlighting how conviction in holding gold is quickly waning," said Goldman Sachs analysts Damien Courvalin and Jeffrey Currie in the note. The analysts cut their gold forecast to $1,450 per ounce for 2013 and $1,270 for 2014, the second cut in their price target this year. [link to finance.yahoo.com] Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
JUST HERE (OP) User ID: 25610447 United States 04/10/2013 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Goldman Sachs Says It's Time to Short Gold Quoting: Hard Eight Goldman Sachs downgraded its 2013 price target for gold (Exchange:XAU=) and advised investors to short the precious metal, in a commodities report out on Wednesday. 24K gold bar. REUTERS/Bobby Yip/Files"Despite resurgence in euro area risk aversion and disappointing U.S. economic data , gold prices are unchanged over the past month, highlighting how conviction in holding gold is quickly waning," said Goldman Sachs analysts Damien Courvalin and Jeffrey Currie in the note. The analysts cut their gold forecast to $1,450 per ounce for 2013 and $1,270 for 2014, the second cut in their price target this year. [link to finance.yahoo.com] thanks for the info :glp sign: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1445809 Czechia 04/10/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone that thought this was a good idea, just got OWNED. Your barbecue isnt legal tender, you own it and need not account for it to anyone. Legal tender comes with the assumption that it belongs to the gummint. Ignore their dictates now, and you are a felon. What America needs is some adults with a pair. There are none, at least not ones working for your nation |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1153672 United States 04/10/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meh. I paid off my transmission in silver. Who needs a friken bank when the parties involved come to an agreement? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30120084 Agree. Those words, "Who needs a friken bank when the parties involved come to an agreement?" are the words feared most by the kleptomaniacs running the planet. They know its coming. it is said, and has happened before throughout history, that once a kleptomaniac loots and owns all cash gold and silver, they go mad. |
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JUST HERE (OP) User ID: 25610447 United States 04/10/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Legal tender means it can be taxed simply for existing in a box. Legal tender means it in essence already belongs to the gummint Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445809 Anyone that thought this was a good idea, just got OWNED. Your barbecue isnt legal tender, you own it and need not account for it to anyone. Legal tender comes with the assumption that it belongs to the gummint. Ignore their dictates now, and you are a felon. What America needs is some adults with a pair. There are none, at least not ones working for your nation :glp sign: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1445809 Czechia 04/10/2013 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What this means is that any increase in value is taxed as a capital gain even if it's buried in your garden. This is the reason why the ptb need to exterminate you all, youve proven you cant think for yourself, and they dont want the responsibility to care for you after theyve taken everything from you. |
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Vision Thing User ID: 36175629 United States 04/10/2013 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What this means is that any increase in value is taxed as a capital gain even if it's buried in your garden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445809 This is the reason why the ptb need to exterminate you all, youve proven you cant think for yourself, and they dont want the responsibility to care for you after theyve taken everything from you. Can't say I have ever read anything so quite to the point. You seem to have nailed it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1030397 United States 04/10/2013 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What this means is that any increase in value is taxed as a capital gain even if it's buried in your garden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445809 This is the reason why the ptb need to exterminate you all, youve proven you cant think for yourself, and they dont want the responsibility to care for you after theyve taken everything from you. Can't say I have ever read anything so quite to the point. You seem to have nailed it. Blithering idiot. Legal tender is a medium of payment allowed by law or recognized by a legal system to be valid for meeting a financial obligation.[1] Paper currency and coins are common forms of legal tender in many countries. The origin of the term "legal tender" is from Middle English tendren, French tendre (verb form), meaning to offer. The Latin root is tendere (to stretch out), and the sense of tender as an offer is related to the etymology of the English word extend (to hold outward).[2] The noun form of a tender as an offering is a back-formation of the noun from the verb. Legal tender is variously defined in different jurisdictions. Formally, it is anything which when offered in payment extinguishes the debt. Thus, personal cheques, credit cards, debit cards, and similar non-cash methods of payment are not usually legal tender. The law does not relieve the debt obligation until payment is accepted. Coins and banknotes are usually defined as legal tender. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36842606 United States 04/10/2013 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What this means is that any increase in value is taxed as a capital gain even if it's buried in your garden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445809 This is the reason why the ptb need to exterminate you all, youve proven you cant think for yourself, and they dont want the responsibility to care for you after theyve taken everything from you. Can't say I have ever read anything so quite to the point. You seem to have nailed it. Blithering idiot. Legal tender is a medium of payment allowed by law or recognized by a legal system to be valid for meeting a financial obligation.[1] Paper currency and coins are common forms of legal tender in many countries. The origin of the term "legal tender" is from Middle English tendren, French tendre (verb form), meaning to offer. The Latin root is tendere (to stretch out), and the sense of tender as an offer is related to the etymology of the English word extend (to hold outward).[2] The noun form of a tender as an offering is a back-formation of the noun from the verb. Legal tender is variously defined in different jurisdictions. Formally, it is anything which when offered in payment extinguishes the debt. Thus, personal cheques, credit cards, debit cards, and similar non-cash methods of payment are not usually legal tender. The law does not relieve the debt obligation until payment is accepted. Coins and banknotes are usually defined as legal tender. . Coins are lawful money Attorney boy , federal reserve system or not Nothing will be spared for your trade ... Pun Intended |
Face Palmer User ID: 37743668 Germany 04/10/2013 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But... but... you can't eat gold! "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
ssle User ID: 31896854 United States 04/10/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Legal tender means it can be taxed simply for existing in a box. Legal tender means it in essence already belongs to the gummint Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445809 Anyone that thought this was a good idea, just got OWNED. Your barbecue isnt legal tender, you own it and need not account for it to anyone. Legal tender comes with the assumption that it belongs to the gummint. Ignore their dictates now, and you are a felon. What America needs is some adults with a pair. There are none, at least not ones working for your nation This! Lots of movement against bartering in the recent past. I wouldn't be surprised if some states called eggs and bread legal tender, just to get their hands in the pot. Everyone is worth knowing. Everything is worth learning. You're never too good. You're never not good enough. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7961756 United States 04/10/2013 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | States are now rushing to push bills through allowing for gold and silver to be recognized as legal tender as politicians fear that the U.S. economy is going to collapse. Quoting: JUST HERE The push from states like Arizona, which passed through their House of Representatives on Monday allowing gold and silver to be considered legal tender, comes as conservatives fear that the Federal Reserve is running the country's economy into a deep hole. Lawmakers say the global economy is on the precipice of financial ruin and the U.S. dollar could soon be worth less than the paper used to make it. These doomsayers are pushing forward legislation that would declare privately minted gold and silver coins legal tender, no different under state law than the U.S. dollar printed by the federal Department of Treasury [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] :gold: There is the little problem of the constitutionality of this idea as well as a lot of very important practical issues that arise when you let private parties mint coins. Purity and weight as well as counterfeiting to name three. Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; However there is a loophole that the states might exploit: Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36842606 United States 04/10/2013 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | States are now rushing to push bills through allowing for gold and silver to be recognized as legal tender as politicians fear that the U.S. economy is going to collapse. Quoting: JUST HERE The push from states like Arizona, which passed through their House of Representatives on Monday allowing gold and silver to be considered legal tender, comes as conservatives fear that the Federal Reserve is running the country's economy into a deep hole. Lawmakers say the global economy is on the precipice of financial ruin and the U.S. dollar could soon be worth less than the paper used to make it. These doomsayers are pushing forward legislation that would declare privately minted gold and silver coins legal tender, no different under state law than the U.S. dollar printed by the federal Department of Treasury [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] :gold: There is the little problem of the constitutionality of this idea as well as a lot of very important practical issues that arise when you let private parties mint coins. Purity and weight as well as counterfeiting to name three. Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; However there is a loophole that the states might exploit: Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. If congress fails to do their duty amendment 10 comes directly into play .. We retain the power still to coin money for we gave it to the states, and then federal government ... If one fails in their place of trust, we retain those rights |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4220340 United States 04/10/2013 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | States are now rushing to push bills through allowing for gold and silver to be recognized as legal tender as politicians fear that the U.S. economy is going to collapse. Quoting: JUST HERE The push from states like Arizona, which passed through their House of Representatives on Monday allowing gold and silver to be considered legal tender, comes as conservatives fear that the Federal Reserve is running the country's economy into a deep hole. Lawmakers say the global economy is on the precipice of financial ruin and the U.S. dollar could soon be worth less than the paper used to make it. These doomsayers are pushing forward legislation that would declare privately minted gold and silver coins legal tender, no different under state law than the U.S. dollar printed by the federal Department of Treasury [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] :gold: There is the little problem of the constitutionality of this idea as well as a lot of very important practical issues that arise when you let private parties mint coins. Purity and weight as well as counterfeiting to name three. Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; However there is a loophole that the states might exploit: Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. If congress fails to do their duty amendment 10 comes directly into play .. We retain the power still to coin money for we gave it to the states, and then federal government ... If one fails in their place of trust, we retain those rights States are now rushing to push bills through allowing for gold and silver to be recognized as legal tender as politicians fear that the U.S. economy is going to collapse. Quoting: JUST HERE The push from states like Arizona, which passed through their House of Representatives on Monday allowing gold and silver to be considered legal tender, comes as conservatives fear that the Federal Reserve is running the country's economy into a deep hole. Lawmakers say the global economy is on the precipice of financial ruin and the U.S. dollar could soon be worth less than the paper used to make it. These doomsayers are pushing forward legislation that would declare privately minted gold and silver coins legal tender, no different under state law than the U.S. dollar printed by the federal Department of Treasury [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] :gold: There is the little problem of the constitutionality of this idea as well as a lot of very important practical issues that arise when you let private parties mint coins. Purity and weight as well as counterfeiting to name three. Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; However there is a loophole that the states might exploit: Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. If congress fails to do their duty amendment 10 comes directly into play .. We retain the power still to coin money for we gave it to the states, and then federal government ... If one fails in their place of trust, we retain those rights Tell that to the man who made the Liberty Dollar and is now in federal prison for creating a competing currency. The Constitution does not apply in DC and its states and territories. Also, anything legal can be legal tender, these statues are stupid and do nothing but benefit the STATE. |