DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! | |
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Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/10/2013 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! Link to the article - Steve Herman @W7VOA 3h Huanqiu Shibao: Central Party School Prof. Zhang Liangui says 70-80% chance of war on #Korea peninsula - is.gd/nA6yge (中文) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 04/10/2013 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! The ballistic missile launch will mark the end of DPRK exercises, and the beginning of the active phase of the current campaign. [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27821942 United States 04/10/2013 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! The ballistic missile launch will mark the end of DPRK exercises, and the beginning of the active phase of the current campaign. Quoting: strikeforce [link to twitter.com (secure)] What does that mean exactly? |
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/10/2013 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! Interesting thoughts by another prominent .mil analyst. I suspect he may be correct - Raymond Pritchett @Galrahn 39m The ballistic missile launch will mark the end of DPRK exercises, and the beginning of the active phase of the current campaign. Raymond Pritchett @Galrahn 12m @SeanMichaelMc the ballistic missile launch is not the end. Whatever the end is for DPRK, that's not it, there is something else to follow. |
Non-Welfare Recipient User ID: 16936329 United States 04/10/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! If China can't stop them, then what the fuck is fatboy kim waiting on? Did he eat the napkin the launch codes were written on? Quoting: Non-Welfare Recipient He's waiting for Obama to follow in the the tradition of American Democrat presidents, and offer him $4 billion in cash to chill. Only Obama is too fucking stupid to tip the little gook standing there with his hand out. I wish someone would dust off the AIM program and send him an IM F*ck you I have enough friends |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35752399 United States 04/10/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! Raymond Pritchett@Galrahn48s Quoting: + DL + Zhang Lianghui, a prominent and respected North Korea analyst in China, said today chance of war on Korean Peninsula is 70-80%. China cannot only stop them, they can devastate them, starve them to death or do whatever else they wanted to do to their pathetic little lackey. Use your brains! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507917 Canada 04/10/2013 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! China needs to put an end to this now before something major happens! Any conflict on the penninsula that included "nuclear" weapons would result in China's 1.2 Billion people economy crashing to a halt and then chaos would ensue. NO gov't can control that many people at one time! They need to step in now. |
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Lex Talionis User ID: 21168833 United States 04/10/2013 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! Raymond Pritchett@Galrahn48s Quoting: + DL + Zhang Lianghui, a prominent and respected North Korea analyst in China, said today chance of war on Korean Peninsula is 70-80%. China cannot only stop them, they can devastate them, starve them to death or do whatever else they wanted to do to their pathetic little lackey. Use your brains! Orville Schell: Ambassador Lord's response on whether China is making as forceful an effort as it could to control the D.P.R.K. certainly has the virtue of brevity -- shorter even than "Jesus wept," from the Gospel of John. And, while I do not disagree with the short and sweet approach of his answer, I also think that it is incomplete. Why? Because it does not hint at the fact that as reluctant as China has been to overtly pressure the D.P.R.K., there has been a tremendous amount change in the China-North Korea zeitgeist. The Chinese are unsurpassed when it comes to indirection and President Xi Jinping's Boao talk was a masterpiece of just such indirection. In it, he was clearly criticizing someone, but without naming any names. An in-the-know Chinese colleague visiting from Beijing coyly asked me this morning if I thought Xi was criticizing the Americans and the Japanese ... OR "the North Koreans." When I said that I hoped it was "the North Koreans" and not us, he laughed and said, "We are really fed up with them. But, the reality is that nobody can control them." After waxing elegiacally about "this balmy season with clear sky and warm coconut breezes" at Boao, Ji went observed that "our world is far from peaceful," and that "No one should be allowed to throw a region and even the whole world into chaos for selfish gains." Although such rubric would also cover the U.S.'s "preemptive warfare in Iraq" or even China's own belligerence toward Japan in the East China Sea and the Philippines and Vietnam in the South China Sea, while Xi never mentioned North Korea by name, it didn't take a lot of guessing to discern that he was targeting Pyongyang. "While pursuing its own interests, a country should accommodate the legitimate interests of others," he concluded. As oblique as he was, this sort of indirect directness would have been unimaginable during the Hu Jintao era. But what it made it a tantalizing moment was that it suggested that the U.S. and China might actually come to find a new interface of common interest over the D.P.R.K.'s errant behavior. When I raised this interesting prospect several weeks ago after China joined the recent U.N. sanctions regime against Pyongyang, John Delury posted, noting that Cui Tiankai, Beijing's new ambassador to Washington, almost immediately countered to say that "it's very inaccurate to say China and the United States have reached a deal on imposing sanctions on North Korea." Perhaps. But then, one must always allow for the possibility that the good Ambassador was simply trying to defend those -- possibly like himself -- who might espouse such a policy from hard-liners in the Chinese military who are less offended by the D.P.R.K.'s increasingly embarrassing, anti-social global behavior. Former U.S. Ambassador to Beijing, Jon Huntsman, weighed in after Xi's Boao speech calling his comments unprecedented. "It suggests to me, as I've watched the ratcheting up of frustration among Chinese leaders over the last many years, that they've probably hit the 212-degree boiling point as it relates to North Korea," he told CNN on Sunday. I tend to agree with Huntsman, that the Chinese are reaching something of a kindling point in regard to their stubbornly retrograde neighbors. Pyongyang is increasing an embarrassment to Beijing, which wants to be seen as a viable world power, not part of a two-bit alliance of backward satrapies. They may not want to see South Korean and U.S. troops on the other side of the Yalu River, but they also do not want to see their "economic miracle" go up in a mushroom cloud somewhere nearby. So, I'd say, stay tuned. This story is in process! And, as to Winston Lord's two letter assessment, "No," in regard to whether or not Beijing has been making a convincing effort to control Pyongyang, I'd add a few letters: "Not yet." But, I say this with several caveat: even if Beijing does end up applying much more pressure, it may not be immediately evident to us. And even if the Chinese end up being willing to make a much more forceful effort, we need to be ready for it to be far less successful than we now imagine it might be. My read is -- and here I agree with my Chinese colleague cited above --that the Chinese have nowhere near as much ability to control what the D.P.R.K.'s leaders do as we like to imagine. Final question: Once that Beijing card is played -- if it ever is -- what then? Michael Kulma: I agree with Ambassador Lord that the short answer to this question is "no." The economic lifeline is certainly important to this conversation, but the political relationship and the long friendship between China and the D.P.R.K. is also relevant, and would lead one to believe that China's sway could/should be stronger. That said, China does seem to be trending toward stronger reaction in both word and deed. Another test by North Korea in the days or weeks ahead will also be another test of how far China is willing to go down the path to doing all that it can do. "Tolerance is the lube that helps slip the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of a civilized society." Plato |
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TraderRob User ID: 3560801 United States 04/10/2013 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! China needs to put an end to this now before something major happens! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1507917 Any conflict on the penninsula that included "nuclear" weapons would result in China's 1.2 Billion people economy crashing to a halt and then chaos would ensue. NO gov't can control that many people at one time! They need to step in now. If Nuc weapons impact China... we will send them to Canada. You have the space... and need more Chinese restaurants anyway. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
Ger_reG User ID: 37776215 Germany 04/10/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEMPSEY: North Korea Putting Nuke On Missile Classified, 'Must Assume Worst Case'... NK Analyst, 'War on Peninsula is 70-80%'!!! i read the full article from him an hour ago on german news, is there an english version? everybody here should read this, this is not just this empty sentence, seems like he really knows what he is talking about! |