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***Very Important Information: How you will know when they will begin confiscating 401 K's, Pensions, Bank Accounts, and PM's!!

 
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...don't assume sense or import..who is "they" ?...why would confiscating equities help anyone? Stocks and bonds are not currency. So if "They" took your 401k(s),"they" would have to SELL them..who would buy? If done on a large enough scale, the markets would dive in a massive sell off, thereby killing that "Markets High" theory. You do know a stocks worth it whatever it will be bought for NOW, not yesterday's high. if hundred's of billions were stolen, I think the purchase might be hampered. Did you bother to think this thru? Do you have ANY understanding of markets? This is NOT important information, this is poor gloom & doom speculation on the part of someone who has little understanding of our banking/investment system. See, someone bothered to take the time to point out the massive flaws in your speculation...feel better :)
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Perhaps by taking stock & bonds of companies they then own and control those physical assets in one fell swoop, fulfilling the socialist goal of control of all means of production. And replacing them with fiat FED printed treasuries/bonds.


They (the neocons) enjoy power and outrageous grants of immunity to themselves using highly elaborate and well placed coconspirators who operate to "falsely devalue and then pump value" of anything.

Neocons control the valuation of anything.

They can, using civil asset forfeiture...steal anything they want using a court system that forces people to scrounge money for lawyers. If THEY TAKE ALL YOUR MONEY, HOW WILL YOU HAVE LEGITIMATE LAWYERS ON YOUR SIDE?

YOUR STUCK with the bogus cops operating as court appointed lawyers....and in civil matters, not criminal...you don't have court appointed counsel.

They would either steal it and keep the valuation high....or they would drop the valuation so they could buy low, and later pump it to sell high. Either, wealth was stolen.

In Greece they stole deposits.

Why couldn't they do that in America?

If you cash in your pension or social security and take lump sum..........you have to move it out of the country. SMARTEST THING YOU CAN DO TODAY, NOT NEXT MONTH. YOU CAN LOSE IT ALL, OR LOSE SOME OF IT.

IF YOU STAND PAT and don't cash in.......secret inflation will erode the value of what you think you have. Factor in inflation....Gov does not tell what the real inflation devaluation is. In 2006, dollar lost half it's value from when Bush took office in 2000.

What laws recently prevented expats from moving money offshore to get money out of America? What's the tax on that...despite the fact..."no tax is warranted, since that money is taxed everytime it moves".

You have to assume......anything of value will be stolen one way or another (inflation).

Buy Swiss Francs.

Buy Chinese yun

Buy currency backed by metal, or any country that has kicked out the Chicago School of Economics.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27237669


...don't assume sense or import..who is "they" ?...why would confiscating equities help anyone? Stocks and bonds are not currency. So if "They" took your 401k(s),"they" would have to SELL them..who would buy? If done on a large enough scale, the markets would dive in a massive sell off, thereby killing that "Markets High" theory. You do know a stocks worth it whatever it will be bought for NOW, not yesterday's high. if hundred's of billions were stolen, I think the purchase might be hampered. Did you bother to think this thru? Do you have ANY understanding of markets? This is NOT important information, this is poor gloom & doom speculation on the part of someone who has little understanding of our banking/investment system. See, someone bothered to take the time to point out the massive flaws in your speculation...feel better :)
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Perhaps by taking stock & bonds of companies they then own and control those physical assets in one fell swoop, fulfilling the socialist goal of control of all means of production. And replacing them with fiat FED printed treasuries/bonds.


there are many "stock markets" all over the World, thus room for billions and billions and billions etc.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27237669


...don't assume sense or import..who is "they" ?...why would confiscating equities help anyone? Stocks and bonds are not currency. So if "They" took your 401k(s),"they" would have to SELL them..who would buy? If done on a large enough scale, the markets would dive in a massive sell off, thereby killing that "Markets High" theory. You do know a stocks worth it whatever it will be bought for NOW, not yesterday's high. if hundred's of billions were stolen, I think the purchase might be hampered. Did you bother to think this thru? Do you have ANY understanding of markets? This is NOT important information, this is poor gloom & doom speculation on the part of someone who has little understanding of our banking/investment system. See, someone bothered to take the time to point out the massive flaws in your speculation...feel better :)
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Perhaps by taking stock & bonds of companies they then own and control those physical assets in one fell swoop, fulfilling the socialist goal of control of all means of production. And replacing them with fiat FED printed treasuries/bonds.



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If there is a confiscation, it is important to remember the fact it would not have to be paid out. If times get tough, people will take the penalty and get their $$. If it is confiscated they dont have to worry about that, not to mention it puts the people in a much worse position to help themselves and more likely to have to rely on the ones who took it.

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Re: ***Very Important Information: How you will know when they will begin confiscating 401 K's, Pensions, Bank Accounts, and PM's!!
I believe that you are almost spot on.
I think it will start when the total amout of debt that
the Fed has bought equals the total value of all IRA-401K-SEPP
and then it will happen, as the FED will not lose a dime.
That's the reason they have no problem being the largest debt holder. My guess around 6 Trillion in debt and then all retirement will be swaped for bonds
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Sounded good until you underestimated the amounts....see my posts above about the FDIC.

Your guess is off by about 10 Trillion...
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...."from Bloomberg:


President Barack Obama’s budget proposal would cap multimillion-dollar tax-favored retirement accounts like the one held by Mitt Romney, his Republican rival in 2012.

Obama’s budget plan, to be unveiled April 10, would prohibit taxpayers from accumulating more than $3 million in an individual retirement account. That proposal would generate $9 billion in revenue for the Treasury over the next decade, according to a White House statement released today.

“Under current rules, some wealthy individuals are able to accumulate many millions of dollars in these accounts, substantially more than is needed to fund reasonable levels of retirement saving,” the statement said
.".....
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Right now they are still allowing people to close their 401k's and pay a tax penalty. This is because they are still getting some people on the "inside" out before they confiscate. Expect it to become harder and pay more penalties to withdraw in the near future!

Ok tardo, you can't 'close' a 401k account. You can stop contributing while you are employed but you can't take the money out until you leave the employer who runs the plan. You can take the money out when you quit the job. That's when you can take a distribution and pay taxes on it or you can roll it to another 401k or can roll it to an IRA.

This is the way it has always been so I call BS on your post.
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I have some important information I came accross yesterday! Do with it what you will-believe it or dont?? Thats up to you.... this is not an UNCLE thread-so dont even start with that...

Now for those of you interested in when they will begin to confiscate 401 K's Roth Ira's, private stock accts: I can tell you this-the confiscation will happen when the stock market is at all time highs!!! This, of course, only makes sense-no one wanted to confiscate your accts when it was February 2009 (when it was at all time lows)... That is plain to see... You will also know they are getting ready to take your 401k's and stock accounts when it is at an unsustainable high (meaning they have to keep manipulating the market to keep it up). In their eyes, its their money anyways, since their the ones who have run up the market:) Another way to know when they will begin confiscation is when Bond rates are at all time lows. So when they confiscate your accounts they will give you worthless bonds that pay virtually no interest... Lovely isn't it???

Right now they are still allowing people to close their 401k's and pay a tax penalty. This is because they are still getting some people on the "inside" out before they confiscate. Expect it to become harder and pay more penalties to withdraw in the near future!

When the confiscation begins there will be a bank holiday so they can begin "haircuts and confiscation" of your bank accts as well! Dont worry though they will give you worthless stock in the bank :)

So what should one do? Many people will say have physical PM's and survival stuff. Here is my take on PM's: Yes have physical PM's on hand, but understand they may be confiscated as well-so be SMART with them!!

When you see Silver and Gold taken down hard, understand things are getting very close... Expect and "artificial takedown" of paper Gold and silver... What they will eventually do, just like the stock market they will bring it artificially down (Just like 2008-2009 in the stock market) then they will BUY it up--- In fact manipulate it up- so they can then confiscate that.... This is all soooo Obvious if you think about it!!!!

They take markets down, then they run they them right back up and then they confiscate....

Get ready its coming.......
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who the fuck is"THEY"

u mean duh feds???

can anyone use names here???
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this thread is failing big time
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I believe it is going to happen and then Obama is going to blame it on someone else. He is not responsible for one fucking thing in his whole time as president. It is always someone's fault or desire. Like the sequestration.

This is why he wants our guns so bad b/c he knows we are not going down without a fight and a fight it is going to be. I believe we are in a very serious plight in our country right now and something is going to happen in a magnitude none of us can even imagine.

It's time to take this MF out of the office and any one who supports him. We have to get conservatives in the Senate in 2015; if we make it that long.
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All my money is tied up in real estate with fixed loans and credit card debt. Got a 500sq/ft greenhouse, $3K worth of dry bulk superfoods and a solid job with IBM. No worries here.
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What's Korea got to do with this
Manipulated you're mine
Stuck in the blind..
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All my money is tied up in real estate with fixed loans and credit card debt. Got a 500sq/ft greenhouse, $3K worth of dry bulk superfoods and a solid job with IBM. No worries here.
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what is IBM???....

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iraqi dinars. convert now.
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The objective of yesterday's plunge in gold is not to screw the average joe investors (though it's an accepted consequence). The objective is to screw Cyprus.

Cyprus is being forced to sell their gold to cover their debts. Now with gold being worth substantially less, Cyprus has to sell MORE gold to cover their debts.

These depressed prices of gold may stick around a bit but will not last.

Countries like China are buying gold like crazy and they will absolutely be buying on the dip.
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Also it should be apparent that the FED and Central Bankers will try and squash anything that may compete with the dollar.... ie. B&&coin-- gold and silver-you name it... Eventually, they will lose this battle
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Mark Faber calls them the "coo-coo people" and gives his thoughts about the gold crash here on bloomberg.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

Also, here is some good info arond the scam that may be behind all this. All things are possible as Mr Doom and Gloom says.

[link to goldtrends.net]
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None of these things will be happening in the United States in the short term.

Continue to leave your assets where currently located in local denominations. The act of sudden withdrawal of assets could possibly lead to a hypothetical identification of threats.

There is no information to act otherwise.

Simply follow all rules, laws, and regulations in your particular nation-state and all will be well.

Leave it be as there is nothing to see here.

This is all hearsay so act wisely.
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...

OK I get it, a thread that makes sense and important, but if its not about Dancing with the Stars, then no one cares..
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Ding! Now you know. If the TV doesn't say it, it isn't so.


All hail the glowing oracle!
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The drug TV was the greatest mind control ever invented and unleashed on the unsuspecting gullible American people.

Here is more on this:

[link to www.scribd.com]

OMG!

Just realized we are posting on GLP. Thot it was LOP.

So ah, now the glp is not banning everything that moves?

Embrace the Light.
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"Find your team, start meeting together. Don't tell others!"

Finding a team/group is pretty tough when I'm not supposed to tell anyone. Just by seeking you've given away your position.

Anyhow... I want to see PROOF. A scanned memo or meeting minutes... something.

I just can't believe any of this "a banker told me" or "at a LEO meeting..." stuff without any proof. You would think with all the cellphones around someone would at least record something, but ALL of it is hearsay.

That being said... prove me wrong. Lets see hard, objective evidence of any of this scary stuff. Not a news story or anything like that. PROOF. The smoking gun that can't be denied.
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The Bank Confiscation Scheme for US and UK Depositors .. The Future Of Global Banking .. FDIC .. It Can Happen Here:

[link to goingglobaleastmeetswest.blogspot.com]
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This is by far the most serious doom in our future. This doom will also bring on the civil unrest the Government is planning for.
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Hey yo chief.

All one has to do is look at the hhistory books to plainly see what is happening in America today.

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]

[link to www.maxexchange.com]

To the gulags with those who do not agree with the govt!

Study Stalinist Russia.
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Who or what do you follow to get this info. Your spot on!
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401k accounts and the like are still safe bets against confiscation.

your personal bank accont.. not so much.
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norespect Right....
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believe what you want
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Just curious, what makes you think so.... I mean even if my head were completely in the sand, up till this point, Cyprus should tell you NOTHING is safe!
 Quoting: MaxMad


^^^^
This.

It was so obvious our airheaded 45 year old son began to ask us some nervous questions. And when those 2 liberals start noticing something is wrong, it seems to me that only the most brain dead would be oblivious. (But they're pretty nice people, considering all things. I just sorta hope they and their clan don't land here when it all blows up. Though we would welcome them....)
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