The Boston Bombings Were NOT A False Flag...Here's Why... | |
CtYankee User ID: 30129105 United States 04/16/2013 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mentioned this in another thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657226 What if, as an ongoing tactic of fear, that the perpetrator(s) isn't found at ALL? Much more convenient, in order to not let this crisis go to waste, to just say that it COULD happen to you... anytime, anywhere, by any group, large or small. In other words, live in fear and don't mind the DHS MRAP's filled with folks carrying clips loaded with hollow point rounds as they actively search for the perps. War on terror brought to our streets, just like that. CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
SGSR1 User ID: 17835926 United States 04/16/2013 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The one thing that does suggest a false flag is the fact that the us went to defcon 3 2 days before this happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37120700 You know if the Media and government officials were pushing some North Korean connection (which was initially examined by the media, but then they quickly dropped that), I could see the connection there... And look, I don't usually believe in coincidence...I posted a thread last night about that... But there is also the fact that people just do bad things occasionally for their own reasons... Alas, not everything is a conspiracy... "fact that people just do bad things occasionally for their own reasons..." And there you have it. They are creating REASON for 'National Security Force' Better to say "to take over country and our freedom" Last Edited by SGSR1 on 04/16/2013 04:08 PM |
jack of all trades User ID: 32003632 United States 04/16/2013 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mentioned this in another thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657226 What if, as an ongoing tactic of fear, that the perpetrator(s) isn't found at ALL? Much more convenient, in order to not let this crisis go to waste, to just say that it COULD happen to you... anytime, anywhere, by any group, large or small. In other words, live in fear and don't mind the DHS MRAP's filled with folks carrying clips loaded with hollow point rounds as they actively search for the perps. War on terror brought to our streets, just like that. It's near impossible to fathom that there's no video evidence the perp. Besides that, don't you people know how high tech the satellites are in space. 30 years ago they could zoom in so far as to see the cracks on a persons skin. How high tech do you think they are now? They can catch anyone anytime if they wanted too. It's all an illusion to get you to willingly submit to them and give them your soul, and most will end up doing it. |
Corn Dog User ID: 28518686 United States 04/16/2013 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Others have said this, but I'll affirm. The definition of terrorism is something that causes widespread fear. Having this event be without a motive or perpetrator makes it even more terrible. If it happened there at this event, why couldn't it happen in your town at a Fourth of July parade, for example. The vagueness makes it difficult to say "It couldn't happen to me," so terror is intense and lasting. Then people start longing for a solution, and the DHS, police etc. can provide one -- even that American military force stationed on American soil. And if it happens a few other places around the country, people will be looking for a coordinated solution and the poor county sheriffs who stand between us and Federal enforcement will have to stand down. It is so odd but I don't feel scared. I think I am hardened against these events. Sandy hook bothered me because of the children and innocents but Aurora and this event doesn't stun me. Is anyone else feeling like they are hardened to these events? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23917036 United States 04/16/2013 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even a reporter called this a false flag ? You all sound like sheep looking for a new shepherd. And if they do blame this on something else, they are opportunists not orchestrators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036 Next thing you know, you will go retro and call columbine a false flag. It's been proven the columbine shooters were brainwashed patsies. They can use microchips, drugs, monarch mind control, various methods. Predictable response. Go ahead and blame all of humanities woes and faults on TPTB. After all, without them we wouldn't think at all and wouldn't be able to conceive of such malice, right? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21303902 United States 04/16/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this opens the door for more government control and fear mongering. scare the sheep some more so they can pass more illegal laws. later on I can see this being blamed on "anti-government" "defenders" of the constitution survivalist milia groups who also happen to be gun owners. they'll say that lone wolves who share the same ideology are an equal threat to the sheep and therefore require the implementation of more illegal draconian laws that would make dictators of the past and present geen with envy. |
Corn Dog User ID: 28518686 United States 04/16/2013 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even a reporter called this a false flag ? You all sound like sheep looking for a new shepherd. And if they do blame this on something else, they are opportunists not orchestrators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036 Next thing you know, you will go retro and call columbine a false flag. It's been proven the columbine shooters were brainwashed patsies. They can use microchips, drugs, monarch mind control, various methods. Bullshit! The columbine killers were most likely raped by a well known sheriff who like young men and meth. |
jack of all trades User ID: 32003632 United States 04/16/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even a reporter called this a false flag ? You all sound like sheep looking for a new shepherd. And if they do blame this on something else, they are opportunists not orchestrators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036 Next thing you know, you will go retro and call columbine a false flag. It's been proven the columbine shooters were brainwashed patsies. They can use microchips, drugs, monarch mind control, various methods. Predictable response. Go ahead and blame all of humanities woes and faults on TPTB. After all, without them we wouldn't think at all and wouldn't be able to conceive of such malice, right? So are you saying there's no such thing as brainwashing and mind control? Have you read Fritz Springmeiers book The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave, or Transformation of America by Kathy Obrien? All these incidents that happen which the media uses to further the agenda of the petro-pharmaceutical-military-media-industrial complex just happen out of the blue? SSRI's are given to people for their actual wellbeing? You are a SHEEP. Baaaaaaaaahhhhhh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23917036 United States 04/16/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this opens the door for more government control and fear mongering. scare the sheep some more so they can pass more illegal laws. later on I can see this being blamed on "anti-government" "defenders" of the constitution survivalist milia groups who also happen to be gun owners. they'll say that lone wolves who share the same ideology are an equal threat to the sheep and therefore require the implementation of more illegal draconian laws that would make dictators of the past and present geen with envy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21303902 You think this about every crime committed, I presume? What was pulled off wasn't some sophisticated science project. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23917036 United States 04/16/2013 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even a reporter called this a false flag ? You all sound like sheep looking for a new shepherd. And if they do blame this on something else, they are opportunists not orchestrators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036 Next thing you know, you will go retro and call columbine a false flag. It's been proven the columbine shooters were brainwashed patsies. They can use microchips, drugs, monarch mind control, various methods. Predictable response. Go ahead and blame all of humanities woes and faults on TPTB. After all, without them we wouldn't think at all and wouldn't be able to conceive of such malice, right? So are you saying there's no such thing as brainwashing and mind control? Have you read Fritz Springmeiers book The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave, or Transformation of America by Kathy Obrien? All these incidents that happen which the media uses to further the agenda of the petro-pharmaceutical-military-media-industrial complex just happen out of the blue? SSRI's are given to people for their actual wellbeing? You are a SHEEP. Baaaaaaaaahhhhhh. I am saying, by default you hail to your new shepherd, the one waving a false flag. You have stopped thinking. |
O'Malley User ID: 22439147 United States 04/16/2013 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this opens the door for more government control and fear mongering. scare the sheep some more so they can pass more illegal laws. later on I can see this being blamed on "anti-government" "defenders" of the constitution survivalist milia groups who also happen to be gun owners. they'll say that lone wolves who share the same ideology are an equal threat to the sheep and therefore require the implementation of more illegal draconian laws that would make dictators of the past and present geen with envy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21303902 You think this about every crime committed, I presume? What was pulled off wasn't some sophisticated science project. In other words, it was easy to execute, and impossible to stop, right? So why do we continue to give billions of dollars to law enforcement agencies who can't do their jobs? |
The Norwalk Avenger User ID: 2079719 United States 04/16/2013 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess you're explanation just seems a bit too slick for me, and damn sure much slicker than they need to be considering the fact they control the flow of info... Quoting: Saddletramp Like I said, I'm sitting here like you thinking, "If this were a false flag, why are they so flat-footed on this? Why aren't they trotting out some right-winger and milking this thing? Why is the narrative so muddled?" Of course, that could and can change all in an instant when/if the "suspect" is rolled out. Could be today, could be tomorrow, and this will all be a moot point. But beyond that, I really think the internet revolution and viral media has had a really profound effect. They don't completely control the media anymore. The internet's changed that. It's not as simple as Right Winger + CIA + guns + bombings = anti-terrorism legislation. Ten years ago would the "conspiracy community" be gung-ho and trigger ready, so to speak, to call something like this a "false flag"? Absolutely not. It would marinate for a months, maybe years, and show up in some newsletters, The New American and a few BBS and newsgroups. It wouldn't receive the slightest blip on the radar in the public mind. Whatsoever. But now it does. Yahoo News! is referencing the fat man in a widely published article today! They're listing "the government" as the "#2" possible perp for this! I mean, this is unprecedented. We've seen unbelievable examples of "conspiracy" memes going mainstream -- and a lot of it is as simple as the internet spilling over into it. Look at yesterday: the entire internet is ready to fire on all cylinders and DECLARE THIS A FALSE FLAG! If it is one, they're playing all of these close to the vest and they're not as obvious as they've been in the past. And as I said, we got punked with SH. The world's changed. The internet has changed it. "They" are either going to have to pivot or they already have. I definitely agree with you. I find that the truth is usually somewhere in the middle of the two extremes. I think you're spot on that 'control' is not as easy to maintain as it was before the internet. It's true that legislators are working overtime to control it, but the underground has already been laid. You are correct in that TPTB are having a harder and harder time managing us. Perhaps this is precisely why events are becoming more frequent and more desperate. -N- Reclaim the Present from Apathy and Despair Care without Hope, Hope without Care |
jack of all trades User ID: 32003632 United States 04/16/2013 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even a reporter called this a false flag ? You all sound like sheep looking for a new shepherd. And if they do blame this on something else, they are opportunists not orchestrators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036 Next thing you know, you will go retro and call columbine a false flag. It's been proven the columbine shooters were brainwashed patsies. They can use microchips, drugs, monarch mind control, various methods. Bullshit! The columbine killers were most likely raped by a well known sheriff who like young men and meth. This is what I've got. What have you fuckers got? [link to whale.to] [link to educate-yourself.org] [link to www.mindspring.com] [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] |
Phylax User ID: 31177572 United States 04/16/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The false flag operation is never well-controlled, while the post-operation propaganda is totally controlled by the perpetrators. False flags are most often multi-purpose, that is to say, they can justify war, loss of civil liberties, expensive security measures, insurance fraud, personal gain,theft, etc. The purpose of the false flag is to pit a group's enemies against each other - divide and conquer. It is the classic scheme of the Jews, whose numbers are incredibly small in comparison to their enemies. Dividing the American people over their responses to 9/11, Tucson, Aurora, Sandy Hook, and Boston helps fifteen million Jews gain control over 350 million Americans. Last Edited by Phylax on 04/16/2013 04:23 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23917036 United States 04/16/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this opens the door for more government control and fear mongering. scare the sheep some more so they can pass more illegal laws. later on I can see this being blamed on "anti-government" "defenders" of the constitution survivalist milia groups who also happen to be gun owners. they'll say that lone wolves who share the same ideology are an equal threat to the sheep and therefore require the implementation of more illegal draconian laws that would make dictators of the past and present geen with envy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21303902 You think this about every crime committed, I presume? What was pulled off wasn't some sophisticated science project. In other words, it was easy to execute, and impossible to stop, right? So why do we continue to give billions of dollars to law enforcement agencies who can't do their jobs? Who said police were smart? Who said most people are smart? You opt for anarchy? Stupid people can try and fail, and naive people can be fooled. Your excuses dive into the realm of mental illness where everything is a threat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31976295 United States 04/16/2013 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People make me laugh. Quoting: O'Malley How can anyone say at this point, with any degree of certainty at all, if this IS or ISN'T a false flag? Perhaps because everything that could happen anywhere is a false flag on this site. I have no problem with people speculating on who benefits and considering false flags (most overused term on board) but anyone sure right now is going on nothing but apeculation. This points to lone gunman at least as much as anything. Patriots day? April 15th? Boston Mass? If it were to take away freedoms - it would be more geared to something. If it WERE some government FF - well, it would probably be one hell of a lot bigger bomb. And we know foreigners tend to hit entry points and NY, just the way it is. I DON"T knw, but neither does anyone here. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23917036 United States 04/16/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: jack of all trades It's been proven the columbine shooters were brainwashed patsies. They can use microchips, drugs, monarch mind control, various methods. Bullshit! The columbine killers were most likely raped by a well known sheriff who like young men and meth. This is what I've got. What have you fuckers got? [link to whale.to] [link to educate-yourself.org] [link to www.mindspring.com] [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] Sanity and critical thinking. |
O'Malley User ID: 22439147 United States 04/16/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this opens the door for more government control and fear mongering. scare the sheep some more so they can pass more illegal laws. later on I can see this being blamed on "anti-government" "defenders" of the constitution survivalist milia groups who also happen to be gun owners. they'll say that lone wolves who share the same ideology are an equal threat to the sheep and therefore require the implementation of more illegal draconian laws that would make dictators of the past and present geen with envy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21303902 You think this about every crime committed, I presume? What was pulled off wasn't some sophisticated science project. In other words, it was easy to execute, and impossible to stop, right? So why do we continue to give billions of dollars to law enforcement agencies who can't do their jobs? Who said police were smart? Who said most people are smart? You opt for anarchy? Stupid people can try and fail, and naive people can be fooled. Your excuses dive into the realm of mental illness where everything is a threat. No, I think you miss the point. |
DogEye User ID: 31976295 United States 04/16/2013 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People make me laugh. Quoting: O'Malley How can anyone say at this point, with any degree of certainty at all, if this IS or ISN'T a false flag? Perhaps because everything that could happen anywhere is a false flag on this site. I have no problem with people speculating on who benefits and considering false flags (most overused term on board) but anyone sure right now is going on nothing but apeculation. This points to lone gunman at least as much as anything. Patriots day? April 15th? Boston Mass? If it were to take away freedoms - it would be more geared to something. If it WERE some government FF - well, it would probably be one hell of a lot bigger bomb. And we know foreigners tend to hit entry points and NY, just the way it is. I DON"T knw, but neither does anyone here. Whoops! This was me. Can't stand people coming in and stating something under AC - it is cowardly. In part b/c i hate to deny someone the opportunity to thow a red with one word "Liar" - very helpful. Last Edited by DogEye on 04/16/2013 04:25 PM If you want to run with the big dogs you can't pee like a puppy. |
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Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 1052341 Puerto Rico 04/16/2013 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This was indeed a "manufactured event", all the high ranking army officers participating in the Marathon were pulled out of the race, on one pretext or another. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37931327 I call BS on you OP. If you are a shill, you will pay a horrible price for you betrayal. Like Hitler and Stalin, they will purge the turncoats first. I'm no shill, I'm well known on this board and you don't see me hiding behind an AC tag... This is my honest opinion of the situation as it stands right now... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 1052341 Puerto Rico 04/16/2013 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay I'm aware I'm on a Conspiracy Site, and I am a fellow traveler in some conspiracy theory. So I am fully ready to get slammed and defend my position here... Quoting: Saddletramp The Boston Bombings do not fit the pattern of past false flag events and here is why... 1.) No motive has been established. In false flag events the media always has a motive in place either beforehand or immediately thereafter that fits the political agenda so that they begin parroting it over and over to program the masses... 2.) No perpetrator has been caught. In false flag events the perp/patsy, if he's not killed at the scene, is almost always caught within hours of the event and his full bio, history, religion, and political affiliations are available to the media within minutes of his capture. 3.) It doesn't fit the current narrative of gun control. This is pretty well self explanatory. 4.) This was a totally public and uncontrollable crime scene, multiple independent witnesses, camera's, victims, etc. Not to say that public and uncontrollable scenes are not within the realm of possibility in false flags, but this was a nightmare scene for any control of information. Now things could come out today that begin to change my mind on this, but as of right now, I'm calling it...The Boston Bombings don't look like a false flag to me... Bullshit! You think 2D? You don't have a fucking clue. 1) motive is "security = freedom" that any public event needs hired security, etc. more drones, more cameras, more police state. 2) Wrong. Perpetrator doesn't need to be caught in order to make the event have it's effect. the government and media is the patsy 3) not all false-flags are against gun-rights. its about increasing the police state, removing our liberties. 4) as long as they control the national/local news, and eventually everything the public sees "officially" then it has been controlled, enough for what the elite want You don't have a mind! You don't think for yourself! I think you are more stating about how they might use this incident for their benefit...they always try to exploit these things. I think if anything this derails the Gun Control agenda, though they may salvage something with the things you mentioned... Don't for a minute believe that just because I don't go along with the conspiracy parade that "I don't think for myself..." That's sort of the opposite if you think about it... Look, I've said in many posts, if more evidence comes along contrary to what has been presented up to this point, I reserve the right to change my mind about this...but right now I don't think the evidence is there to support a blanket false flag accusation... Last Edited by Saddletramp on 04/16/2013 04:51 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 1052341 Puerto Rico 04/16/2013 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You OP are a government stooge! Or a complete moron! Take your pick. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38099463 As I'm sure you lovingly say to anyone that disagrees with your "Opinion"... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 1052341 Puerto Rico 04/16/2013 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad Karma for this...really?!?!? Really?!?!? Come on guys, argue your points, I can accept that and we can have a dialogue on an equal footing without malice...don't snipe from the bushes... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
O'Malley User ID: 22439147 United States 04/16/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad Karma for this...really?!?!? Really?!?!? Quoting: Saddletramp Come on guys, argue your points, I can accept that and we can have a dialogue on an equal footing without malice...don't snipe from the bushes... It's too early to say if it is, or isn't a false flag. Claiming at this point that it absolutely was NOT a FF is as ill-informed as saying it was. |