H7N9 flu spreads to Taiwan. possible human to human transmission | |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 04/25/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A returning worker? So there's just so many jobs in China that with their billion plus population, they still need to import workers? Quoting: BRIEF Seriously, I think people travel too much...why does a businessman have to fly across the country or world, is he going to do some physical work that can't be accomplished with local labor? I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38859326 Ireland 04/25/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out this disease incident map The grey markers are bird flu - they're all over the place, China, Mexico, Germany, South Africa... [link to outbreaks.globalincidentmap.com] |
lionhound (OP) User ID: 625009 United States 04/25/2013 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Told my wife who is a high school principal about it, and because she didn't hear it on the MSM, laughed at me. If 1 of 5 die, that's 90 students and 20 faculty. If even half of that is true, it would cause a serious world panic. Right? Staying home is the only option to avoid it if it becomes a pandemic. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8298598 France 04/25/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.foreignpolicy.com] Quoting: Vic-chick13 We are at a mysterious fork in the road. One path leads to years, perhaps decades, of spread of a new type of influenza, occasionally making people sick and killing about 18 percent of them. It's not a pleasant route, strewn as it is with uncertainties, but no terror seems to lurk on its horizon. The other path, however, wrenches the gut with fear, as it brings worldwide transmission of a dangerous new form of flu that could spread unchecked throughout humanity, testing global solidarity, vaccine production, hospital systems and humanity's most basic family and community instincts. It's a long article, but well worth the read. Great article, thanks.. (Scary picture!) |
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samanthasunflower User ID: 37056712 United States 04/25/2013 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google elderberries and their health benefits in preventing the flu virus from replicating. This will probably hit in the late fall/early winter when people's vitamin D levels are low. So now is the time to stock up on vitamin D, and to find where the elderberry bushes are in your area. Elderberries can be preserved in a vodka solution (elderberries, vodka, sugar - vent once a day and shake.)Or elderberries can be made into wine. Of course one would have to drink a little elderberry wine every 6-8 hours to keep the flu away. You don't need a lot, a small shot glass would do it. Not enough to get drunk, but enough to feel a little guilty about drinking at 6 am in the morning. |
lionhound (OP) User ID: 625009 United States 04/25/2013 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A returning worker? So there's just so many jobs in China that with their billion plus population, they still need to import workers? Quoting: BRIEF Seriously, I think people travel too much...why does a businessman have to fly across the country or world, is he going to do some physical work that can't be accomplished with local labor? Yeah. I used to work at Disney. Yikes it was scary thinking about all that traveling. Bringing diseases from God knows where. |
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lionhound (OP) User ID: 625009 United States 04/25/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google elderberries and their health benefits in preventing the flu virus from replicating. Quoting: samanthasunflower This will probably hit in the late fall/early winter when people's vitamin D levels are low. So now is the time to stock up on vitamin D, and to find where the elderberry bushes are in your area. Elderberries can be preserved in a vodka solution (elderberries, vodka, sugar - vent once a day and shake.)Or elderberries can be made into wine. Of course one would have to drink a little elderberry wine every 6-8 hours to keep the flu away. You don't need a lot, a small shot glass would do it. Not enough to get drunk, but enough to feel a little guilty about drinking at 6 am in the morning. Thank you. I don't know where any elderberry bushes are. New project. |
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whiteangel also known as WA User ID: 1775746 United States 04/25/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great! Yes sarcasm! I have a stop over at a Taiwan airport tomorrow...time to buy a surgical mask! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38860196 And goggles! Flu can enter through the eyes. Good luck! And ears?? Any soft mucus membrane. Just not sure about ears? Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8298598 France 04/25/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is obviously covering up the severity of this so we better hope it doesn't hop a plane and start spreading from person to person. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5199737 A plane or a cargo vessel. Look how many chineses ports are in the top 50 in term of activity volume: [link to www.worldshipping.org] |
lionhound (OP) User ID: 625009 United States 04/25/2013 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great! Yes sarcasm! I have a stop over at a Taiwan airport tomorrow...time to buy a surgical mask! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38860196 And goggles! Flu can enter through the eyes. Good luck! And ears?? Any soft mucus membrane. Just not sure about ears? I don't know. I read somewhere recently, it would come in three waves with the second being the worst. Lasting around18-24 months When I read that, I remembered we were warned of that in another thread. You know which one. |
lionhound (OP) User ID: 625009 United States 04/25/2013 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is obviously covering up the severity of this so we better hope it doesn't hop a plane and start spreading from person to person. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5199737 A plane or a cargo vessel. Look how many chineses ports are in the top 50 in term of activity volume: [link to www.worldshipping.org] To and fro. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32069520 United States 04/25/2013 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google elderberries and their health benefits in preventing the flu virus from replicating. Quoting: samanthasunflower This will probably hit in the late fall/early winter when people's vitamin D levels are low. So now is the time to stock up on vitamin D, and to find where the elderberry bushes are in your area. Elderberries can be preserved in a vodka solution (elderberries, vodka, sugar - vent once a day and shake.)Or elderberries can be made into wine. Of course one would have to drink a little elderberry wine every 6-8 hours to keep the flu away. You don't need a lot, a small shot glass would do it. Not enough to get drunk, but enough to feel a little guilty about drinking at 6 am in the morning. The air pollution in China is so bad where it blocks UVB sunlight from reaching people. I would not be surprised if many died from this killer flu if it caught on. Vitamin D at the right dosage may be your best protection against flu. Maybe the combination of both vitamin D and flu vaccine may even work better but I haven't come across anything to prove that. |
lionhound (OP) User ID: 625009 United States 04/25/2013 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google elderberries and their health benefits in preventing the flu virus from replicating. Quoting: samanthasunflower This will probably hit in the late fall/early winter when people's vitamin D levels are low. So now is the time to stock up on vitamin D, and to find where the elderberry bushes are in your area. Elderberries can be preserved in a vodka solution (elderberries, vodka, sugar - vent once a day and shake.)Or elderberries can be made into wine. Of course one would have to drink a little elderberry wine every 6-8 hours to keep the flu away. You don't need a lot, a small shot glass would do it. Not enough to get drunk, but enough to feel a little guilty about drinking at 6 am in the morning. The air pollution in China is so bad where it blocks UVB sunlight from reaching people. I would not be surprised if many died from this killer flu if it caught on. Vitamin D at the right dosage may be your best protection against flu. Maybe the combination of both vitamin D and flu vaccine may even work better but I haven't come across anything to prove that. I tried it this flu season. It really did work. |
Crazy Harriet User ID: 36677216 Japan 04/25/2013 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great! Yes sarcasm! I have a stop over at a Taiwan airport tomorrow...time to buy a surgical mask! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38860196 And goggles! Flu can enter through the eyes. Good luck! And ears?? Any soft mucus membrane. Just not sure about ears? I don't know. I read somewhere recently, it would come in three waves with the second being the worst. Lasting around18-24 months When I read that, I remembered we were warned of that in another thread. You know which one. I don't know which one. Any hints? Life just doesn't afford me the time to read half of what I'd like to and a small fraction of what I should. THanks. As for the three waves, whoever is making projections seems to be basing them on the history of the Spanish flu that hit in 1918, FWIW. That's how it was. "I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than risk peace in pursuit of politics." - Donald Trump |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 38854045 Canada 04/25/2013 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google elderberries and their health benefits in preventing the flu virus from replicating. Quoting: samanthasunflower This will probably hit in the late fall/early winter when people's vitamin D levels are low. So now is the time to stock up on vitamin D, and to find where the elderberry bushes are in your area. Elderberries can be preserved in a vodka solution (elderberries, vodka, sugar - vent once a day and shake.)Or elderberries can be made into wine. Of course one would have to drink a little elderberry wine every 6-8 hours to keep the flu away. You don't need a lot, a small shot glass would do it. Not enough to get drunk, but enough to feel a little guilty about drinking at 6 am in the morning. Lol!! I think I'd be able to mange the guilt. |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 38854045 Canada 04/25/2013 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this shit shows signs of spreading im buying some masks and gas masks and shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37021243 Buy some now, if you can. If this thing takes off, there will be nothing left to buy. I'd agree. Don't wait until everyone has the same idea. Give some links to adequate masks please? I don't have any links myself, maybe someone else does. I buy mine when they go on sale at any of our local stores, like Pharma Plus or Shoppers Drug. Another good place to get them are industrial supply places, lots of trades use them, and they usually have pretty good pricing too. |
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Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 23930358 United States 04/25/2013 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google elderberries and their health benefits in preventing the flu virus from replicating. Quoting: samanthasunflower This will probably hit in the late fall/early winter when people's vitamin D levels are low. So now is the time to stock up on vitamin D, and to find where the elderberry bushes are in your area. Elderberries can be preserved in a vodka solution (elderberries, vodka, sugar - vent once a day and shake.)Or elderberries can be made into wine. Of course one would have to drink a little elderberry wine every 6-8 hours to keep the flu away. You don't need a lot, a small shot glass would do it. Not enough to get drunk, but enough to feel a little guilty about drinking at 6 am in the morning. Lol!! I think I'd be able to mange the guilt. Just ordered 4 bottles of elderberry extract for the preps. Just in case this does go hot. I picked up the mutated flu that hit back in late December. Really sucked! I was very sick for 2.5 weeks & weakened for another month. Even now, my lungs are still not back up to full capacity. Sucked enough for me, but I would NOT want the kiddos to suffer like I did -- or worse. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 23930358 United States 04/25/2013 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Vic-chick13 Buy some now, if you can. If this thing takes off, there will be nothing left to buy. I'd agree. Don't wait until everyone has the same idea. Give some links to adequate masks please? I don't have any links myself, maybe someone else does. I buy mine when they go on sale at any of our local stores, like Pharma Plus or Shoppers Drug. Another good place to get them are industrial supply places, lots of trades use them, and they usually have pretty good pricing too. I bought my supply at Walgreens. The pharmacist will be able to help you select the type that best filters viruses. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
TOTRhombus User ID: 38804434 United States 04/25/2013 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google elderberries and their health benefits in preventing the flu virus from replicating. Quoting: samanthasunflower This will probably hit in the late fall/early winter when people's vitamin D levels are low. So now is the time to stock up on vitamin D, and to find where the elderberry bushes are in your area. Elderberries can be preserved in a vodka solution (elderberries, vodka, sugar - vent once a day and shake.)Or elderberries can be made into wine. Of course one would have to drink a little elderberry wine every 6-8 hours to keep the flu away. You don't need a lot, a small shot glass would do it. Not enough to get drunk, but enough to feel a little guilty about drinking at 6 am in the morning. Lol!! I think I'd be able to mange the guilt. Just ordered 4 bottles of elderberry extract for the preps. Just in case this does go hot. I picked up the mutated flu that hit back in late December. Really sucked! I was very sick for 2.5 weeks & weakened for another month. Even now, my lungs are still not back up to full capacity. Sucked enough for me, but I would NOT want the kiddos to suffer like I did -- or worse. Same here...I got it right before Christmas and picked up another virus at the end of January. I've never been so sick. It wasn't until the end of March that the fevers finally stopped. Oddly, nobody else in my family got more than a couple of sniffles...thank God. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
Mona User ID: 38285782 Canada 04/25/2013 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this shit shows signs of spreading im buying some masks and gas masks and shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37021243 I already bought masks and 20bottles of Purex and im ordering the ingredients to make the "4 thieves oil" to help us not catch the virus. Bcoz as soon as i hear it has reached N.America im not taking any chances!! ..Better be ready than sorry :-) |
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Vic-chick13 User ID: 38854045 Canada 04/25/2013 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google elderberries and their health benefits in preventing the flu virus from replicating. Quoting: samanthasunflower This will probably hit in the late fall/early winter when people's vitamin D levels are low. So now is the time to stock up on vitamin D, and to find where the elderberry bushes are in your area. Elderberries can be preserved in a vodka solution (elderberries, vodka, sugar - vent once a day and shake.)Or elderberries can be made into wine. Of course one would have to drink a little elderberry wine every 6-8 hours to keep the flu away. You don't need a lot, a small shot glass would do it. Not enough to get drunk, but enough to feel a little guilty about drinking at 6 am in the morning. Lol!! I think I'd be able to mange the guilt. Just ordered 4 bottles of elderberry extract for the preps. Just in case this does go hot. I picked up the mutated flu that hit back in late December. Really sucked! I was very sick for 2.5 weeks & weakened for another month. Even now, my lungs are still not back up to full capacity. Sucked enough for me, but I would NOT want the kiddos to suffer like I did -- or worse. Same here...I got it right before Christmas and picked up another virus at the end of January. I've never been so sick. It wasn't until the end of March that the fevers finally stopped. Oddly, nobody else in my family got more than a couple of sniffles...thank God. Haven't tried the elderberry yet, but it's on my list now for sure. Colloidal silver is really good as well. I wouldn't be without it. |
TOTRhombus User ID: 38804434 United States 04/25/2013 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just ordered 4 bottles of elderberry extract for the preps. Just in case this does go hot. I picked up the mutated flu that hit back in late December. Really sucked! I was very sick for 2.5 weeks & weakened for another month. Even now, my lungs are still not back up to full capacity. Sucked enough for me, but I would NOT want the kiddos to suffer like I did -- or worse. Same here...I got it right before Christmas and picked up another virus at the end of January. I've never been so sick. It wasn't until the end of March that the fevers finally stopped. Oddly, nobody else in my family got more than a couple of sniffles...thank God. You two need to follow The Comedian's Guaranteed Good Health Regime. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |