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Men not marrying. How deep does the problem go?

 
DoomGasm

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Another here who will not remarry.....not because I hate men but because apparently I do not yet know myself well enough to choose properly. I think this can apply to both men and women. We have not reconciled our own past relationships and learned the things about ourselves that they taught us. People keep looking for others to make them whole yet we must become whole ourselves to succeed in a marriage. We bring all of that to a new relationship and wonder why if fails. At least that is my observation. Also I think the militant feminists have damaged traditional marriage and family. While I am self sufficient and don't need a man it doesn't mean I don't want one. Finally I think it is more difficult for free thinkers like many on this forum to find equally free thinking partners. Someone once said BETTER THE ADMIRATION OF MANY THAN THE CRITICISM OF ONE.
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From a womans POV.


 Quoting: 343gt67 39374661


Women have turned marriage into nothing more than a career path..the man better have stuff, lots of stuff before she'll put her hooks in him. As soon as the woman spots a "bigger better deal" she's at her lawyers office to secure her new "stuff" before taking the next man for his.

My ex was fukin the neighbor, got divorced and she got the home I broke my back paying for, most of my 401k and the friendly judge slapped me with CS and alimony along with Health insurance that ate 70% of my take home pay.

You have to be some kind of "extra fukin special stupid" to even considering marrying one of these leeches.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34068008


A woman gets half without a fight...the fight will be for the half that's left and she'll still get half of that..


70% is the new 50-50... hiding


Let's get married... 1rof1


Only if she has money... 5a
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Men need women like a fish needs a bicycle.
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1rof1
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JObs don't pay enough to support families anymore and men don't want to marry feminist women.
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I was schedule to get married this Saturday in the Catholic Church to a sexy female doctor .... Called it off in January!


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I was schedule to get married this Saturday in the Catholic Church to a sexy female doctor .... Called it off in January!


5a
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If she makes a lot of money...you screwed up....give me her number...
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Marriage = what exactly? Many words from dictionary representing emotions?
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Marriage = what exactly? Many words from dictionary representing emotions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39462218


Marriage is supposed to be about the exclusive and absolute right to sex from your partner. In return, various things are in the contract, like love, money, pooling of assets and continuity until one of you dies.

If sex is not an absolute right in the contract, then everything else falls apart. There's no other legal way to contract for sex.
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its all by design.its so broke,its probably best we stay clear of each other for a while...at least a generation or two.from the boomers to gen x,to gen y.we can probably project thats its str8 down hill from here if things dont change.both for the kids and our sanity.
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Am I the only one here who likes being married?

But I see everyone's points.

The women here are not as badly infected with the feminism insanity. (Which is unfeminine)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729577


This is an excellent point. I've dated two German girls (I travel a lot) and they were both far more good-natured and feminine than the typical girl from the U.S. We need to be careful not to paint marriage with too broad a brush; the institution carries very different meanings in different countries.

Where I spend most of my time (Argentina and Colombia), for example, marriage has a quite different connotation than it does in the U.S., primarily because the women there are warm and feminine and worth marrying (what a thought). But the question still is (and Ghetto Monk asks it well), why would any sane man actually CHOOSE to get married?

The Illuminati have programmed modern women to be sluts, so the one thing men want most, due to their biology (sex with as many attractive women as possible) is now openly available to them. Why, under such a scenario, would a man get MARRIED?? If he wants kids, then I get it. But if he doesn't, getting married, under the current social paradigm, is utter insanity. As long as society is built this way, I'm going to enjoy plenty of young, nubile, horny women while they're on offer.
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I watched some of the video....it's 24 min long, will save rest for later.

But, as a female, I am not interested in marrying again. I was never one to take money or have expectations from my ex. He was lucky with me.

I think more people, not just men, are reconsidering marriage. I do agree with GM, it's a trap. However, I love the romance of marriage, but it truly is not all its cracked up to be. Many are miserably married, and the other partner may not even have a clue, how unhappy their partner is.

If it ain't broken....don't fix it.
 Quoting: Seagal695


I guess he was partially lucky. Depends also on who broke the relationship.
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its all by design.its so broke,its probably best we stay clear of each other for a while...at least a generation or two.from the boomers to gen x,to gen y.we can probably project thats its str8 down hill from here if things dont change.both for the kids and our sanity.
 Quoting: miserkocho2


If we all stay clear of each other for one generation, there won't be a second one.

But the human race is not in danger of dying out, because other people (basically, nonwhites) don't have this problem nearly as much, and they're pounding away and making more babies anyway.

Maybe the right idea is to spread sperm anonymously, then at least you're not on the hook for child support which would totally ruin your life, the state will fill in the gaps to raise the kids.

I am lucky so far, my marriage has held together for the kids. After they're out of the house, I don't think either my wife nor me cares much what happens in our relationship.
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Trust me, I get tired of pointing out "stupid man commercials" to my family but just take it one step at a time.
 Quoting: IRQ_1


I remember pointing out anti-male TV ads to my friend back in 1994 - he hadn't noticed before.
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eh, things will turn around in the near future. when this whole joke of an economy collapses, earth changes, blah blah blah doom happens, women who can't say enough how they don't need a man will go running for one (and I'm a woman saying this.) Better one man to protect you than 20 men to pass you around. In a SHTF scenario, men and women will revert to their traditional gender roles. Family will become important again. Men will take pride in protecting the most vulnerable in their families and women will appreciate them for it. We are living in an unnatural state. What cannot continue, will stop....
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Another here who will not remarry.....not because I hate men but because apparently I do not yet know myself well enough to choose properly. I think this can apply to both men and women. We have not reconciled our own past relationships and learned the things about ourselves that they taught us. People keep looking for others to make them whole yet we must become whole ourselves to succeed in a marriage. We bring all of that to a new relationship and wonder why if fails. At least that is my observation. Also I think the militant feminists have damaged traditional marriage and family. While I am self sufficient and don't need a man it doesn't mean I don't want one. Finally I think it is more difficult for free thinkers like many on this forum to find equally free thinking partners. Someone once said BETTER THE ADMIRATION OF MANY THAN THE CRITICISM OF ONE.
 Quoting: DoomGasm


Not sure about that last line, however +1 on this post
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Another here who will not remarry.....not because I hate men but because apparently I do not yet know myself well enough to choose properly. I think this can apply to both men and women. We have not reconciled our own past relationships and learned the things about ourselves that they taught us. People keep looking for others to make them whole yet we must become whole ourselves to succeed in a marriage. We bring all of that to a new relationship and wonder why if fails. At least that is my observation. Also I think the militant feminists have damaged traditional marriage and family. While I am self sufficient and don't need a man it doesn't mean I don't want one. Finally I think it is more difficult for free thinkers like many on this forum to find equally free thinking partners. Someone once said BETTER THE ADMIRATION OF MANY THAN THE CRITICISM OF ONE.
 Quoting: DoomGasm


I'm seeing a lot of women saying this... What message are you sending to your sons ladies? What happens when they become fathers? Will they view themselves as worthless and not needed? What will their children think of them? How will that affect their children?

Men and women are one unit. Without each other, we are broken spiritually, intellectually, and morally.
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why the hell would a man marry a woman in todays world?

it does nothing to keep the woman

she can leave / divorce him whenever she wants for no reason at all and take half his shit

fuck that shit

it's a total trap
 Quoting: Ghetto Monk


YES! 35 and never falling for that honey trap.
Marriage was fine 100 yrs ago when men had rights in a marriage.
Today it's all about being subservient to women and how to make them happy. Most people I see get married under peer pressure. Personally I can't stomach following orders and most girls think its men's job to follow their orders or else. My 2 cents
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Marriage = what exactly? Many words from dictionary representing emotions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39462218


Yesterday it meant for better or worse in sickness & in health


Today it means rich and healthy..



Sick & poor....SEE YA... ahhh
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why the hell would a man marry a woman in todays world?

it does nothing to keep the woman

she can leave / divorce him whenever she wants for no reason at all and take half his shit

fuck that shit

it's a total trap
 Quoting: Ghetto Monk


.....and he can divorce her whenever he wants for no reason and take half her shit also.

But is is not "their shit"?

Just saying.

In any event I agree, it's a mess.
 Quoting: Pyractomena borealis


very very rare for that to happen...in most cases if the man has the upper hand"very very rare" he in most cases says keep your shit im done.the only thing a man really wants is his kids.because he knows if the kids are left with her they will not have a good moral up bringing in most cases...

look at the 80"s that's when a lot of the feminist movement took hold.they started praising the single mother and deeming the father a dead beat dad...now look at today....see anything wrong with the picture?
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A lot of good views and opinions on this subject.

The whole thing is severely broken. Women, whether they want to admit it or not are the cause of their own demise. Fairness and equality are only a shiny term for 'me' syndrome.

One of the posts stated that its a whole cloak and dagger bit preying on the carnal need of men to procreate, while coercing women to be competitive for these instincts, only as a ploy and trap. Wow have we become programed and predictable.

Its quite funny actually, not funny as Ha Ha, if a women desires to rear a child (on her volition) all she has to do is go to the local bar/club and scan for a suitable mate. She typically gets her wish. He plants a seed in a lapse of judgement and is now on the hook for that the rest of his life. Bringing a child into existence is a wonderful and remarkable thing, but these CRAZY women doing it only as benefit to themselves is LUNACY and they are rewarded greatly!

Not only is the legal system on their side, but so is the rest of the system. Under the phrase "It's for the children." As soon as those words are uttered society bows, and an enemy is made. For the children my eye, the only part that is remotely about the children is the fact that they are the weight that tips the scales of justice in favor of one over the other. The are used as leverage. And that is the greatest CRIME in history.


What have we come to!? If sh*t happens, okay. But to have someone devious and wielding such ability, deliberately taking advantage and preying on another individual is INSANE.

And with men waking up it only stands to reason that things will change for the better, or will go the opposite way in terms of desperation. Take the feminists, and these bad seeds and put them on an island. The world is better without.

Marriage too has become an institute of rewarded extortion. If you have a job and you quit or get fired, they are in no way shape or form on the hook to support your ass. Where is this entitlement attitude defined as being OK?

Things have to change, have to.
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A lot of good views and opinions on this subject.

The whole thing is severely broken. Women, whether they want to admit it or not are the cause of their own demise. Fairness and equality are only a shiny term for 'me' syndrome.

One of the posts stated that its a whole cloak and dagger bit preying on the carnal need of men to procreate, while coercing women to be competitive for these instincts, only as a ploy and trap. Wow have we become programed and predictable.

Its quite funny actually, not funny as Ha Ha, if a women desires to rear a child (on her volition) all she has to do is go to the local bar/club and scan for a suitable mate. She typically gets her wish. He plants a seed in a lapse of judgement and is now on the hook for that the rest of his life. Bringing a child into existence is a wonderful and remarkable thing, but these CRAZY women doing it only as benefit to themselves is LUNACY and they are rewarded greatly!

Not only is the legal system on their side, but so is the rest of the system. Under the phrase "It's for the children." As soon as those words are uttered society bows, and an enemy is made. For the children my eye, the only part that is remotely about the children is the fact that they are the weight that tips the scales of justice in favor of one over the other. The are used as leverage. And that is the greatest CRIME in history.


What have we come to!? If sh*t happens, okay. But to have someone devious and wielding such ability, deliberately taking advantage and preying on another individual is INSANE.

And with men waking up it only stands to reason that things will change for the better, or will go the opposite way in terms of desperation. Take the feminists, and these bad seeds and put them on an island. The world is better without.

Marriage too has become an institute of rewarded extortion. If you have a job and you quit or get fired, they are in no way shape or form on the hook to support your ass. Where is this entitlement attitude defined as being OK?

Things have to change, have to.
 Quoting: Passiveobsessive


It's a mixture of insanity, evil, and stupidity. It's mostly useful idiots, but there are the few in positions of power who know exactly what they are working towards. REVENGE.

We must understand we are late in the game. The female supremacists are pushing for the power grab, and your sons, and the ones who love them will suffer greatly from the coming queen bee fantasy.

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There aren't many decent guys left who I would consider getting into a relationship with let alone marriage. All in debt, bitter, kids who don't talk to them. Blech!!!!
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True, but there are some out there.

Just gotta be sure you want one.
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We live in a society where in no way does a divorce benefit the male. It's a punishment. While for the woman it's a second chance.
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She talks about that.

How men are basically expected to do the right thing by women, no matter how fucked up they are.
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Am I the only one here who likes being married?

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Sadly seems that way.

I honestly would love to, but would have to find another amazing woman to risk it.
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getting married is something you do with your perfecet woman or man. it takes years and years to find this person

people are getting married too soon and not exploring the whole world to find their perfect person
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Actually it starts off with the right attitude. Having two failed marriages sucked. But the 3rd one is over 30 years now and still great - so is the sex.
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Talk about having to walk through hell to get to heaven.

hf
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Woman are like kids in a candy store in these days. Men are the candy. They stuff their faces with whatever looks good until they are old washed up narcissistic rags that no one wants.
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Real problem with marriage today are people thinking it's a fucking fairy tale of laziness.

Hey look, I got married now I don't have to try anymore!
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Good point.

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I recall reading some studies awhile back where men from divorced families were more likely not to get married. Another recent statistic pointd out that 47% of women giving birth now are unmarried - one could easily speculate that there just aren't enough strong family men husbands/fathers in the picture as role models for these young men. It's no wonder they are not comfortable creating a family of their own after growing up in a broken household.

Some here may remember years back that the goal in high school/college was to meet up with someone, get married and raise a family. Now it seems the goal is to make money and just survive.
 Quoting: Alexander


lol

wow you guys amaze me

the problem is western society and how it's degraded into role reversal

society itself is the problem

letting a woman or a man out of a marriage legally is the problem

why do people call marriage a life time commitment when either party can end it at any time for any reason or no reason whatsoever

and to make matters worse when they do the MAN is the one who PAYS, he pays for EVERYTHING and the woman gets off with a new fresh life completely paid for by the man she destroyed, lied too, took his money, took his children, and got off scott free...

you make marriage really = till death do we part and you won't have a problem
 Quoting: Ghetto Monk


Society has turned atheist, that's the problem, this was not a problem when you were still a Christian nation, now you're just turning into an atheistic mess (I live in an atheistic mess already so I see what is happening to you, apostasy is rampant among the churches in your land, here there are no real churches left all turned bad/rotten/spoiled).

Marriage is one of the cornerstones of civilization, the family unit, it is continually attacked by it's enemies.

Remember the commie goals in 1963?
[link to uhuh.com]

Number 26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Number 27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

Number 28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

Number 40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

I mean just look how they run with "gay marriage".
Marriage is between a Man and a Woman promising to God to stay faithful til death.

No one else have a right to get married. Atheists, sodomites and the rest don't have a right to get married.
People are fakes that's the problem, their lives are fake (just look at them) so therefore their marriages are fake, then when something major happens like one spouse buys blue toilet paper or something like that, they're through.

I'm not surprised at all, the fakes will be fakes.
Proverbs have an interesting verse:
Proverbs 6:26 For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.

just like it also has some very interesting verses on what type of wife to get:
Pr 31:10 ¶ Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
Pr 31:11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
Pr 31:12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
Pr 31:13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
Pr 31:14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
Pr 31:15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
Pr 31:16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
Pr 31:17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
Pr 31:18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
Pr 31:19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
Pr 31:20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
Pr 31:21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
Pr 31:22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
Pr 31:23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
Pr 31:24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
Pr 31:25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
Pr 31:26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
Pr 31:27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
Pr 31:28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
Pr 31:29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
Pr 31:30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
Pr 31:31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

that's not qualities you see in many women these days.
But you see loads of rebellion.
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70% of all married women have had at least one affair according to the latest statistics (which in reality means that for average to better looking women after the initial rush of the first couple of years of marriage the rate is in reality 90% to 95%)

70% of all divorces are instituted by women
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In the video she tells how women feel only 20% of guys are actually attractive.

I would argue that maybe 10-20% of women are attractive to me, but I am not deluded. And of that small percentage, very few are attractive when you get to know them.

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