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HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign

 
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Thread: Wake Up Call 2013: Obama DHS Prepares For Civil War (SHARE)
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This is a unilateral Pentagon policy change. It sounds like they are going after the traitors like the POTUS and all of his men, though I could be wrong.
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Interesting language.



Duly constituted Federal, State, or local authorities are
unable or decline to provide adequate protection for Federal property
or Federal governmental functions.
 Quoting: MacElroy





For an alternative view; How can mass arrest of the criminals in government occur without the Pentagon granting itself this authority?
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Yep, that's what i was thinking. the military is empowered to resist any enemy, foreign or domestic, by the Constitution. The jew scabs in Washington are most assuredly a domestic enemy.
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isn't that exactly what the 2nd and 4th was written to protect against?
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u.s. military has authority over the president. ho-hum some things never change
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as well as congress and states' rights. pig/Military controls the terrain as aways. enjoy your military junta . some of you deserve it
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In the meantime, if the various generals and Defense Secretaries think Afghanistan turned out to be unwinnable, what do they think will happen in Americastan?
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Of course it is unwinnable. How can the lessons of Vietnam and the Russians in Afghanistan be ignored?
You cannot win a conventional war again a guerrilla army that is firmly entrenched.
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It's been done successfully in the past, specifically by the Soviets in Eastern Europe after WWII, but their methods were less about winning hearts and minds and more about mass graves and wiping out whole family groups.

Nowadays, it's not about winning through counterinsurgency, it's about developing the indigenous internal security capabilities of the "host nation" to such an extent that Coalition forces can declare an end to hostilities and hand over a semi-pacified country to ill-trained, but very well equipped puppet forces. That's not winning. It all started with the "Vietnamization" program during the war in Vietnam, then they used it in Iraq and will do the same thing in Afghanistan. It seems that a generation is all it takes to lose the institutional knowledge required. It all had to be redeveloped after a decade-long desperate, mad scramble for any working historical knowledge on counterinsurgency. I have no answers for the question "how could they have done it better?" but reinventing the wheel every 30 years is a waste of valuable time and resources.

The American Insurgency will be an interesting case study. There are thousands of American patriots who have done 5 or 6 combat tours in Iraq, Afghanistan or the Philippines who are deadly serious about their allegiance to the US Constitution to the exclusion of the US government. They, and other veterans will be the hard core of the insurgency. No more fighting dumb goat herders, this time the regime will be facing real deal soldiers who know the US military's combat capabilities and how to exploit and defeat them.
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You don't know how right you are. Th problem is, the bastards are doing everything they can to put as many patriots behind bars as possible, especially the leaders and the outspoken. I know through experience they no longer are following any due process of law on the civilian level. Grand juries indict not by reviewing the evidence, but by order. People can be arrested and held over for trial in the complete absence of evidence or witnesses.

They've implemented the Patriot act. There is a reason they call it that, it is to suppress patriotism.
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In the meantime, if the various generals and Defense Secretaries think Afghanistan turned out to be unwinnable, what do they think will happen in Americastan?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41018216


Of course it is unwinnable. How can the lessons of Vietnam and the Russians in Afghanistan be ignored?
You cannot win a conventional war again a guerrilla army that is firmly entrenched.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 41056508


It's been done successfully in the past, specifically by the Soviets in Eastern Europe after WWII, but their methods were less about winning hearts and minds and more about mass graves and wiping out whole family groups.

Nowadays, it's not about winning through counterinsurgency, it's about developing the indigenous internal security capabilities of the "host nation" to such an extent that Coalition forces can declare an end to hostilities and hand over a semi-pacified country to ill-trained, but very well equipped puppet forces. That's not winning. It all started with the "Vietnamization" program during the war in Vietnam, then they used it in Iraq and will do the same thing in Afghanistan. It seems that a generation is all it takes to lose the institutional knowledge required. It all had to be redeveloped after a decade-long desperate, mad scramble for any working historical knowledge on counterinsurgency. I have no answers for the question "how could they have done it better?" but reinventing the wheel every 30 years is a waste of valuable time and resources.

The American Insurgency will be an interesting case study. There are thousands of American patriots who have done 5 or 6 combat tours in Iraq, Afghanistan or the Philippines who are deadly serious about their allegiance to the US Constitution to the exclusion of the US government. They, and other veterans will be the hard core of the insurgency. No more fighting dumb goat herders, this time the regime will be facing real deal soldiers who know the US military's combat capabilities and how to exploit and defeat them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41018216


You don't know how right you are. Th problem is, the bastards are doing everything they can to put as many patriots behind bars as possible, especially the leaders and the outspoken. I know through experience they no longer are following any due process of law on the civilian level. Grand juries indict not by reviewing the evidence, but by order. People can be arrested and held over for trial in the complete absence of evidence or witnesses.

They've implemented the Patriot act. There is a reason they call it that, it is to suppress patriotism.
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don't forget though, historically, most imprisoned leaders get out eventually and cause an uprising, not in order of preference but, hitler, stalin, mendela.... list goes on.....
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Finally. You get to taste your own drone medicine. I'm sure there are a few thousand Afghani, Iraqi and Pakistani widows thinking it's cosmic karma payback time, bitches.
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I think the first move by any patriotic takeover should be to review the trial minutes and history of everyone in American jails. They are becoming gulags. If someone has a hard core patriotic bent and no criminal history preceding the accusation that got them imprisoned,I think that should be a hint and a half as to why they wee persecuted. A military court should review the evidence in all such cases and decide whether the conviction was legal

We are seeing a radical upswing in the number of law abiding citizens who are considered problematic to the zionazi agenda being persecuted using the criminal justice system and charges which don't requite evidence to prosecute.
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Laws and regulations mean little when the people lose faith in those institutions, which are supposed to enable the freedom and welfare of the people.. instead inhibit and prohibit them.

Like the IRS, for example.

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oh my...so much knowledge on this thread, yet the threads topic exists. how can that be, when so many usa citizens responding clearly knows their rights are yet again being trampled upon?? oh wait, I know...complacency rules here in america, we'd prefer to sit back and just watch, comment, and complain, instead of investigating, repairing, and remaining vigilant. ohhhhh woe are we...the country of deceit and treason...yes, we will reap every single sow...
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Dude, you are worrying over the wrong thing.

Instead of worrying about this "reaction" you should be concerned about the event that they will cause to make it necessary.
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:win:
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


That's what I was thinking. Why alter over two centuries of precedent and why do it now? Whatever is coming must be big and it must not be too far off.
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oh my...so much knowledge on this thread, yet the threads topic exists. how can that be, when so many usa citizens responding clearly knows their rights are yet again being trampled upon?? oh wait, I know...complacency rules here in america, we'd prefer to sit back and just watch, comment, and complain, instead of investigating, repairing, and remaining vigilant. ohhhhh woe are we...the country of deceit and treason...yes, we will reap every single sow...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38910672


Positive change doesn't occur until AFTER many have "sat back and just watched, commented and complained". A disaffected populace is a big part of the start of the process, so feel free to turn that frown upside down :)
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oh my...so much knowledge on this thread, yet the threads topic exists. how can that be, when so many usa citizens responding clearly knows their rights are yet again being trampled upon?? oh wait, I know...complacency rules here in america, we'd prefer to sit back and just watch, comment, and complain, instead of investigating, repairing, and remaining vigilant. ohhhhh woe are we...the country of deceit and treason...yes, we will reap every single sow...
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I think you just pointed a finger at me to the IRS, CIA, FBI, HLC, IPCO, DHD, OHD and the rest.. lucky i live down under ;).. oh wait....

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Why oh why can we not see the errors of our ways

1. Get seduced into loving behaviours which only disintegrate families and children.
2. Once hearts (thoughts) are hardened by the love of sin, the populace just falls away from the reign of PEACE and GRACE from Our Lord and King Jesus Christ and we throw reconciliation with God out the window
3. From that love of behaviours which only produce death and misery, we actually relabel good and evil and codify sin into our lives.
4. All of which produces a society that is not patient, is not kind, is not long suffering....instead we breed hate, violence, death of babies, destruction of families, zero patience, rage.....

Laws are for the disobedient. Any wonder why we are now SWIMMING IN THEM? What we have sowed just comes right back down on our heads! Our own behaviours dictate the response. We moan about lying politiciajs yet we love lies. We moan about crooked leaders, yet we have embraced croockedness ourselves. Understand that just as the enemies of Israel were enticed into loving wickedness, so was every western nation. In stead of bowing our heads in utter shame, and understanding that the same has happened YET AGAIN, what do we do ? We REVEL IN THAT SHAME.

Take one good look at this development and don't doubt for one second that destruction isn't coming. This PRESSURE is bearing down on us to repent of our ways, change our mind at the course that this nation has been deceived into taking. Our nation reflects the simply truth that due to our own wickedness, we choose to deny the Creator. He seeks NONE TO PERISH. He wills ALL TO BE SAVED. His Saviour has been preached far and wide, but will the hardened hearts respond, will this latest news be enough to convince anyone that our own rebellion to HIM is the cause of the rebellion being stirred up in this nation, which will serve to destroy the very rebellious.

The enemies of Our God yank your chains America. The enemies of Our God have overcome you through your pride and arrogance and wickedness - the VERY THINGS THAT THEY TAUGHT YOU TO VALUE. And tragically, it was very easy to do! Turn on the telly everyone! Soak in our poison gospel which preaches to love your flesh and love the world.
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integrate all religion including the separatist islam... there's peace right there.....

sry, off/on rant.... don't worry, your Military have the right now to oversee 'any civil disturbance' (without proactive overloarding permission)... sleep well....

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oh my...so much knowledge on this thread, yet the threads topic exists. how can that be, when so many usa citizens responding clearly knows their rights are yet again being trampled upon?? oh wait, I know...complacency rules here in america, we'd prefer to sit back and just watch, comment, and complain, instead of investigating, repairing, and remaining vigilant. ohhhhh woe are we...the country of deceit and treason...yes, we will reap every single sow...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38910672


Positive change doesn't occur until AFTER many have "sat back and just watched, commented and complained". A disaffected populace is a big part of the start of the process, so feel free to turn that frown upside down :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41018216


sweety, theres not much more that can happen, that will even ALLOW us to be able to make positive change after its all said and done...especially considering a disaffected populace would have to be the ones to make that INCREDIBLE, damn near impossible change...but I cant knock wishful thinking, mo power to ya banana2
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Protests beginning to scare them.
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Dude, you are worrying over the wrong thing.

Instead of worrying about this "reaction" you should be concerned about the event that they will cause to make it necessary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12653550


Haha i was just wondering the same thing... What do they know that we dont? Why is this even an issue?
All morons hate it when you call them a moron.

People always think something's all true.

It's funny. All you have to do is say something nobody understands and they'll do practically anything you want them to.

-Holden Caulfield
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You can knock somebody's eye out with a twig.

Just saying.
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oh my...so much knowledge on this thread, yet the threads topic exists. how can that be, when so many usa citizens responding clearly knows their rights are yet again being trampled upon?? oh wait, I know...complacency rules here in america, we'd prefer to sit back and just watch, comment, and complain, instead of investigating, repairing, and remaining vigilant. ohhhhh woe are we...the country of deceit and treason...yes, we will reap every single sow...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38910672


Positive change doesn't occur until AFTER many have "sat back and just watched, commented and complained". A disaffected populace is a big part of the start of the process, so feel free to turn that frown upside down :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41018216


sweety, theres not much more that can happen, that will even ALLOW us to be able to make positive change after its all said and done...especially considering a disaffected populace would have to be the ones to make that INCREDIBLE, damn near impossible change...but I cant knock wishful thinking, mo power to ya banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38910672


These children who wish for civil strife are deluded.
Are they truly ready to pay the price..?
Idealistic notions may soothe the ears, but in real life..
the shit always rolls downhill.
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If the law-enforcement is unable to quell rioting and looting, who is going to do it? Isn't it a good idea to provide an emergency clause like this, so that there is at least some authority that can crack down on hordes of looters?
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oh my...so much knowledge on this thread, yet the threads topic exists. how can that be, when so many usa citizens responding clearly knows their rights are yet again being trampled upon?? oh wait, I know...complacency rules here in america, we'd prefer to sit back and just watch, comment, and complain, instead of investigating, repairing, and remaining vigilant. ohhhhh woe are we...the country of deceit and treason...yes, we will reap every single sow...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38910672


Positive change doesn't occur until AFTER many have "sat back and just watched, commented and complained". A disaffected populace is a big part of the start of the process, so feel free to turn that frown upside down :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41018216


sweety, theres not much more that can happen, that will even ALLOW us to be able to make positive change after its all said and done...especially considering a disaffected populace would have to be the ones to make that INCREDIBLE, damn near impossible change...but I cant knock wishful thinking, mo power to ya banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38910672


These children who wish for civil strife are deluded.
Are they truly ready to pay the price..?
Idealistic notions may soothe the ears, but in real life..
the shit always rolls downhill.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I know, I know...sometimes though, I get tired of shooting down dreams and forcing a person to stare reality in the face...so some dreams, I let live on in ppls minds...at the end of the day they will be awoken to a nightmare, but it will be no ones fault but there own *shrugs*.
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fags love military
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They can't quell some ragtag groups in the Afghan mountains. How are they going to suppress an unruly domestic population?
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come on play catch up will ya, they want the war to continue as long as possible, they need more defense contracts, war is big money for the US , most of our other factories have been sent overseas with China labor

war is $$$$ profit
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Aw we've had "executive orders" about that nonsense a while ago. The president can declare an emergency any time he or she wants and take over all our resources. Good times! :D

Bring it already, thugs! I'm sick of mud-trampling through all this sickness. I want Persephone's horn and Poseidon's trident!

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ahhh, yes my friend.... but this specifies that the troops can act alongside the civil defense WITHOUT executive order, at an 'on soil' US civil disturbance using whatever means necessary....

'tis all in the fine print.......
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I could give a fuck what it specifies. If I knew any of my family members in the military complied with this I'd beat their ass myself.
If the military is going to go along with this, then it's time shift how people think of the military. I will always respect those who served in prior years - but this current crop going along with all these anti-American, unconstitutional orders needs to be called out for what they are - a bunch of pussies.
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i know of a civil disturbence in dc and possible treasonby a certain fellow in a white house.i know of posdible treasonous acts by a certain court there also.
coup, coup, coup, now!!!!!!
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i know of a civil disturbence in dc and possible treasonby a certain fellow in a white house.i know of posdible treasonous acts by a certain court there also.
coup, coup, coup, now!!!!!!
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clappa
If this is how the military is going to be used, then families need to start schooling their kids early and stop with the glorifying the military and acting like it's some heroic choice for their kid to enlist.
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if it isn't clear yet presidents have been and continue to be military fronts or actors if you will
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Whoa, looks like DHS insider may have really known what he was talking about.
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you haven't seen nothing yet, now they have the power to get you, watch what they do after you are got.

your body is no longer yours. it's going to get real bad before it gets even worse...





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