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Euro Parliamentarians Miloslav Ransdorf & Raffaele Baldassarre Attack Reporter.

 
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Euro Parliamentarians Miloslav Ransdorf & Raffaele Baldassarre Attack Reporter.
Euro Parliamentarians Miloslav Ransdorf & Raffaele Baldassarre videotaped checking in at around six in the afternoon, at the European parliament, claiming 300 euro expenses for the day, and immediately leaving.

No work done. Not needed either.

They (Euro Parliamentarians) can simply sign their name to claim this 300 euro per day up, and they can do so until ten o clock in the evening. Every day.

Another Euro Parliamentarian added that this kind of behavior happens often to very often, and many of the Euro Parliamentarians are happily participating. The European people are the paying participants in this.

When confronted, Miloslav Ransdorf and Raffaele Baldassarre became very aggressive and assaulted the reporter in an effort to hide their acts.

It all adds up to why there is such a thing as a crisis.

Please note: In case anyone might think, I live elsewhere, not in the EU, I'd like to remind you that nothing like this is unique in its kind.

If it happens in the EU, it may happen everywhere. (Not that the EU is such an example of excellence but, just in general.)

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The same practice is happening here in Brazil with our congressmen. Its one of the reasons people are protesting.
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The same practice is happening here in Brazil with our congressmen. Its one of the reasons people are protesting.
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Well done to all of you. In most countries inside of Europe it is not so. No protests.
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The same practice is happening here in Brazil with our congressmen. Its one of the reasons people are protesting.
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Well done to all of you. In most countries inside of Europe it is not so. No protests.
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So far... just wait for it...
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The same practice is happening here in Brazil with our congressmen. Its one of the reasons people are protesting.
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Did you see the last bit of the video? About what Miloslav Ransdorf is doing? Are they doing that too in Brazil?
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06/25/2013 06:31 PM
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Re: Euro Parliamentarians Miloslav Ransdorf & Raffaele Baldassarre Attack Reporter.
wtf The other one said they can check in 5 times a week

so its 5 x 300 Euro for free.

They filmed in the congressroom , there were at that moment 7 Europarliamentarians present out of the 40 there had to be

stoner Good job pump2
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06/25/2013 06:38 PM
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Fucking leeches.

Sucking money from each member state, and living like fucking kings in their palace.

We need to start protesting in Brussels like in Turkey and Brasil! redface
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06/25/2013 06:40 PM
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Fucking leeches.

Sucking money from each member state, and living like fucking kings in their palace.

We need to start protesting in Brussels like in Turkey and Brasil! redface
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Or should the governments come with answers like the one in Brazil? I am curious if they keep their word.

Erdogan most certainly does not believe his protesters are real, he does not want to hear their voice.

Whatever happens, I hope it will be peaceful.
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Yeah going on for a long time. Best to get rid of this unelected body of corrupt politicians and lobyists, along with the demolition of that imitation Tower of Babel of theirs.
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Yeah going on for a long time. Best to get rid of this unelected body of corrupt politicians and lobyists, along with the demolition of that imitation Tower of Babel of theirs.
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Changing the rules and pay them normal salaries would be a start. Get rid of any of the perpetrators and start over perhaps. And, if they don't perform, then they should gtfo.
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06/25/2013 07:08 PM
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bump

for bastards
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call the police in Brussels

and say that you saw a crime in Eu parliament

stealing public money

10 years in prison

case closed





nobody phoned ?

yawn


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call the police in Brussels

and say that you saw a crime in Eu parliament

stealing public money

10 years in prison

case closed





nobody phoned ?

yawn


oops2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672


Maybe you should. They listen to Polish people there.
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Show this to Greeks and Spaniards forced to eat out of trashcans thanks to the EU policies!

They should smoke them out of Strassbourg and Brussels and lynch these greedy traitors!

170 billion a year down the drain. MOTHERFUCKERS!
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Maybe you should. They listen to Polish people there.
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YOU SAW A CRIME SO

IF YOU SAW A CRIME YOU SHOULD REPORT THE CRIME
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Maybe you should. They listen to Polish people there.
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YOU SAW A CRIME SO

IF YOU SAW A CRIME YOU SHOULD REPORT THE CRIME
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672


Morally it's a crime, sadly they make the rules and laws.
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Maybe you should. They listen to Polish people there.
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YOU SAW A CRIME SO

IF YOU SAW A CRIME YOU SHOULD REPORT THE CRIME
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672


Do not watch the video. Or did you?
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Maybe you should. They listen to Polish people there.
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YOU SAW A CRIME SO

IF YOU SAW A CRIME YOU SHOULD REPORT THE CRIME
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672


Morally it's a crime, sadly they make the rules and laws.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32129936


Time for an investigation so, and get rid of those who perpetrate, and of course claim back all money.

They CLEARLY can not behave themselves.
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Maybe you should. They listen to Polish people there.
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YOU SAW A CRIME SO

IF YOU SAW A CRIME YOU SHOULD REPORT THE CRIME
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672


Morally it's a crime, sadly they make the rules and laws.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32129936


Time for an investigation so, and get rid of those who perpetrate, and of course claim back all money.

They CLEARLY can not behave themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42327907


True, but as always politicians will cover eachother. Nothing will change, until the people take some real action.
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06/25/2013 08:02 PM
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chump change...

go after the real fraudsters...
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672


Morally it's a crime, sadly they make the rules and laws.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32129936


Time for an investigation so, and get rid of those who perpetrate, and of course claim back all money.

They CLEARLY can not behave themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42327907


True, but as always politicians will cover eachother. Nothing will change, until the people take some real action.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32129936


Maybe videos like this will shake a few people awake that might start it off.
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06/25/2013 08:24 PM

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Could they be charged with simple assault for that?
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Could they be charged with simple assault for that?
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It is not the assault that is important here. Although they could I guess. I guess the film crew should go to the police for it.

For the two Parliamentarians it seemed quite normal behavior. Both acted like fools.

If at all I would feel 'European' I would not want to have people like them representing me.

Knowing that they are wasting so much money, and that in Spain 500 families get evicted monthly.


In my opinion they should stop stealing. And give back what was claimed like this. The people who participated should be let go without further pay. All benefits should be taken off them instantly etc.

Must be easy enough to check. They sign, and more than likely, add a time with the signature.

Big question is, as with so many things, where the hell does one go to initiate anything like this, without organizing protests and be seen as terrorist?
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Could they be charged with simple assault for that?
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It is not the assault that is important here. Although they could I guess. I guess the film crew should go to the police for it.

For the two Parliamentarians it seemed quite normal behavior. Both acted like fools.

If at all I would feel 'European' I would not want to have people like them representing me.

Knowing that they are wasting so much money, and that in Spain 500 families get evicted monthly.


In my opinion they should stop stealing. And give back what was claimed like this. The people who participated should be let go without further pay. All benefits should be taken off them instantly etc.

Must be easy enough to check. They sign, and more than likely, add a time with the signature.

Big question is, as with so many things, where the hell does one go to initiate anything like this, without organizing protests and be seen as terrorist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42327907


I understand that the simple assault is not the main issue. Obviously the fraud of claiming expenses not due is the main thing, but it is easier to charge a politician with a lesser crime like assault than it is with the theft they have been perpetrating their entire criminal careers.

People expect their elected officials to be corrupt. Joe six pack doesn't like arrogant assholes shoving people around though. Makes a big difference in public pressure for action.

Last Edited by Resister on 06/25/2013 08:53 PM
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Could they be charged with simple assault for that?
 Quoting: Resister


It is not the assault that is important here. Although they could I guess. I guess the film crew should go to the police for it.

For the two Parliamentarians it seemed quite normal behavior. Both acted like fools.

If at all I would feel 'European' I would not want to have people like them representing me.

Knowing that they are wasting so much money, and that in Spain 500 families get evicted monthly.


In my opinion they should stop stealing. And give back what was claimed like this. The people who participated should be let go without further pay. All benefits should be taken off them instantly etc.

Must be easy enough to check. They sign, and more than likely, add a time with the signature.

Big question is, as with so many things, where the hell does one go to initiate anything like this, without organizing protests and be seen as terrorist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42327907


I understand that the simple assault is not the main issue. Obviously the fraud of claiming expenses not due is the main thing, but it is easier to charge a politician with a lesser crime like assault than it is with the theft they have been perpetrating their entire criminal careers.

People expect their elected officials to be corrupt. Joe six pack doesn't like arrogant assholes shoving people around though. Makes a big difference in public pressure for action.
 Quoting: Resister


Thanks, please note I never doubted you in any way. You are right what you are saying.
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chump change...

go after the real fraudsters...
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Yes,

But how, and who will do it?
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chump change...

go after the real fraudsters...
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Yes,

But how, and who will do it?
 Quoting: Kapooya! 42327907


You will, your neighbors will, your compatriots, the whole people in your country! You have the freaking power, you are the freaking leaders! Stand you ground!
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chump change...

go after the real fraudsters...
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Yes,

But how, and who will do it?
 Quoting: Kapooya! 42327907


You will, your neighbors will, your compatriots, the whole people in your country! You have the freaking power, you are the freaking leaders! Stand you ground!
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


That will take quite a lot. Something like that should be organized properly and be non violent.
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chump change...

go after the real fraudsters...
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Yes,

But how, and who will do it?
 Quoting: Kapooya! 42327907


You will, your neighbors will, your compatriots, the whole people in your country! You have the freaking power, you are the freaking leaders! Stand you ground!
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


That will take quite a lot. Something like that should be organized properly and be non violent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42327907


Huge mistake:
Here it took not more than a couple days for all us to be on the street

If there's not violence, you won't be heard. TPTB will only pay attention on you, whenever there's chaos starting to spread. Remember, there's no change without trauma.
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Yes,

But how, and who will do it?
 Quoting: Kapooya! 42327907


You will, your neighbors will, your compatriots, the whole people in your country! You have the freaking power, you are the freaking leaders! Stand you ground!
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


That will take quite a lot. Something like that should be organized properly and be non violent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42327907


Huge mistake:
Here it took not more than a couple days for all us to be on the street

If there's not violence, you won't be heard. TPTB will only pay attention on you, whenever there's chaos starting to spread. Remember, there's no change without trauma.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Gandhi did it, didn't he?

I hope that the coming out of all this is 'trauma' enough to finally get improvement where it needs.

Do you believe your Government is going to come up with the promised goods btw?
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Euro Parliamentarians Miloslav Ransdorf & Raffaele Baldassarre videotaped checking in at around six in the afternoon, at the European parliament, claiming 300 euro expenses for the day, and immediately leaving.

No work done. Not needed either.

They (Euro Parliamentarians) can simply sign their name to claim this 300 euro per day up, and they can do so until ten o clock in the evening. Every day.

Another Euro Parliamentarian added that this kind of behavior happens often to very often, and many of the Euro Parliamentarians are happily participating. The European people are the paying participants in this.

When confronted, Miloslav Ransdorf and Raffaele Baldassarre became very aggressive and assaulted the reporter in an effort to hide their acts.

It all adds up to why there is such a thing as a crisis.

Please note: In case anyone might think, I live elsewhere, not in the EU, I'd like to remind you that nothing like this is unique in its kind.

If it happens in the EU, it may happen everywhere. (Not that the EU is such an example of excellence but, just in general.)


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