Some Thoughts on Fukushima and Japanese Psychology -- By a Japanese | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45916892 Japan 08/29/2013 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a Gaijin living already a long Time here in Tokyo i would like to say that your points are very right but also incomplete! There are many People organized in Groups who talk and also do something against or better with the Situation in Tohoku, we have really countless Scientist and Students who collect Data, run Simulations and estimate the outcome of this Crisis. The collection of more than 10.000.000 Measurement Spots of Radiation as well as the Testing of nearly 100.000 Food Samples in Self-Organized Food Labs is just an example but also do not forget the huge Demonstrations against nuclear Energy in 2011/2012 and even now, today at 4.30 in Kasumigaseki! You know how difficult it is for a Japanese to say something but all this People participate and all of them knew that the Japanese Police will photograph every single Person! And we have Taro Yamamoto and the 600.000 People who voted for him in the last Election even when it was very little Information out there about him. There is a big Change going on and i am very happy to participate, you should do it too to realize the fresh Breeze here in Nihon. Are you here in Kanto? |
Waterbug User ID: 34388912 United States 08/29/2013 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you. I agree with everything you have said. In my opinion, Tepco is guilty of crimes against the people of Japan. Failing to prosecute the top management for their wrongdoings is tacit approval for what they have done. This is an injustice for Japan.. and the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45876868 China 08/29/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't feel sorry for the Japanese people anymore after reading that. They're upholding genocide on their own people and those who want to live are marked as enemies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38706893 United States 08/29/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well-written and insightful, thanks. As an aside, I think there may be fewer differences in psychology between the "West" and Japan than appears at first glance. Here in the US we are always paying lip service to the concept of the individual, and we have a history of glorifying the individual, but very few want to be "the nail that sticks out" here either, and for the same reasons. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46010804 Japan 08/30/2013 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting summation. Although as noted by the other poster in Japan, there is already "grassroots" radiation monitoring everywhere. My understanding is geiger counters are limited in ability however. Sabah is called for is greater objective investigation of true facts. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47295678 Japan 09/23/2013 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is some truth in what the OP writes BUT he is blind to the BIG ISSUE: CORUPTION. He notices that people don't want to take responsibilty. Why? That is the "CORE QUESTION." ANSWER: Japan is a DEEPLY CORRUPT country resting on "four pillars of corruption:" 1)Finance/businessconstrction world 2)Politicians and Bureaucrats 3) This is subtle, but "The "radition industry" I suppose we can call it: Hard to define but people like the OP who continue Shinto/Buddhist myths, media that creats "Furuki Yoki" ("good old days") nostalgia as a kind of Mass media drug of nostalgia; the "Aristocratic class" of Japan (I can't get any more specific without danger but use your imagination a little...), writers and intellectuals selling the "Japan is different" "we have unique special culture" idea, etc. 4)Organized crime. Yakuza, far-right nusto groups, and other so-called "anti-social forces." These four are like an interlocking system, they are ALWAYS there, they pass the problems back and forth like a game of "hot potato". And the funny thing is it is ery ancient game: the names of the players change a little; but the bloodlines are the SAME in all 4 groups and they all hook each other up with "under the table" favors and bribes...."donations"; rigged bidding contracts for big construction, cultural players like religionists and artitsts to keeep the people re-assured there is something "pure and noble", politicians using slush-fund money; street gangersters to get their hands dirty when none othe the other three can. That's the "four pillar" Japan has ALWAYS rested on and as you can see they exist each for one purpose: to "keep the gravy train flowing", to pass around the hot potato, to make sure eveyone gets a fat stack of the yen and clean hands at the end of the day. That's all they are good at; NOBOBDY in any of these four groups can handle or even think about handing a real-life crisis situation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46999925 Netherlands 09/23/2013 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is some truth in what the OP writes BUT he is blind to the BIG ISSUE: CORUPTION. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47295678 He notices that people don't want to take responsibilty. Why? That is the "CORE QUESTION." ANSWER: Japan is a DEEPLY CORRUPT country resting on "four pillars of corruption:" 1)Finance/businessconstrction world 2)Politicians and Bureaucrats 3) This is subtle, but "The "radition industry" I suppose we can call it: Hard to define but people like the OP who continue Shinto/Buddhist myths, media that creats "Furuki Yoki" ("good old days") nostalgia as a kind of Mass media drug of nostalgia; the "Aristocratic class" of Japan (I can't get any more specific without danger but use your imagination a little...), writers and intellectuals selling the "Japan is different" "we have unique special culture" idea, etc. 4)Organized crime. Yakuza, far-right nusto groups, and other so-called "anti-social forces." These four are like an interlocking system, they are ALWAYS there, they pass the problems back and forth like a game of "hot potato". And the funny thing is it is ery ancient game: the names of the players change a little; but the bloodlines are the SAME in all 4 groups and they all hook each other up with "under the table" favors and bribes...."donations"; rigged bidding contracts for big construction, cultural players like religionists and artitsts to keeep the people re-assured there is something "pure and noble", politicians using slush-fund money; street gangersters to get their hands dirty when none othe the other three can. That's the "four pillar" Japan has ALWAYS rested on and as you can see they exist each for one purpose: to "keep the gravy train flowing", to pass around the hot potato, to make sure eveyone gets a fat stack of the yen and clean hands at the end of the day. That's all they are good at; NOBOBDY in any of these four groups can handle or even think about handing a real-life crisis situation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47341477 Japan 09/24/2013 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is some truth in what the OP writes BUT he is blind to the BIG ISSUE: CORUPTION. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47295678 He notices that people don't want to take responsibilty. Why? That is the "CORE QUESTION." ANSWER: Japan is a DEEPLY CORRUPT country resting on "four pillars of corruption:" 1)Finance/businessconstrction world 2)Politicians and Bureaucrats 3) This is subtle, but "The "radition industry" I suppose we can call it: Hard to define but people like the OP who continue Shinto/Buddhist myths, media that creats "Furuki Yoki" ("good old days") nostalgia as a kind of Mass media drug of nostalgia; the "Aristocratic class" of Japan (I can't get any more specific without danger but use your imagination a little...), writers and intellectuals selling the "Japan is different" "we have unique special culture" idea, etc. 4)Organized crime. Yakuza, far-right nusto groups, and other so-called "anti-social forces." These four are like an interlocking system, they are ALWAYS there, they pass the problems back and forth like a game of "hot potato". And the funny thing is it is ery ancient game: the names of the players change a little; but the bloodlines are the SAME in all 4 groups and they all hook each other up with "under the table" favors and bribes...."donations"; rigged bidding contracts for big construction, cultural players like religionists and artitsts to keeep the people re-assured there is something "pure and noble", politicians using slush-fund money; street gangersters to get their hands dirty when none othe the other three can. That's the "four pillar" Japan has ALWAYS rested on and as you can see they exist each for one purpose: to "keep the gravy train flowing", to pass around the hot potato, to make sure eveyone gets a fat stack of the yen and clean hands at the end of the day. That's all they are good at; NOBOBDY in any of these four groups can handle or even think about handing a real-life crisis situation. This is a VERY good summation of the situation, in fact its one of the truest things I've ever seen on the internet. Bravo. You have these "four pillars" mutually supporting each other by passing brown packages of money under table. You know I always think its funny that the people who run the "Seibu" construction/grocery conglomerate, for example, are the same descendents of the Soga family that first started intermarrying into the the Imperial family in the 500s or 600s. They swap the names up evey now and then but its a very small, small world. Unfortunately none of these groups are good for doing anything but propping each other up and passing brown envelopes full of cash under the table to each other. None can be said truly responsible because each of the four can point to the other three and say, "look, they had as much to do with it as me." Its actually funny because its like a little mini-version of the the way the rest of the world is run. Not one singe "TPTB" smoke-filled-room conspiracy but these little "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" groups. All hold power through bribes to the government from business, government hooking up the business by spending on useless bullshit, threats of gangster action to those who speak out, and the puppet-theatrer of religion/media to put a big bow on the pile of shit and make it smell like roses. Japan is like a little petri dish where we can see how these nodes of power freak out and run around like chickens with their heads cut off when they actually have to do something really important and life-threatening. But you have basically the same process all over the rest of the world. I think the only thing about Japan is that the system of corruption runs really, really smooth in normal times and has reached a real equilibrium that humms along until something like Fukushima comes along and the whole thing implodes spectacularly. |
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SteamrolledGobias User ID: 46787476 United States 10/29/2013 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP your other thread was great, about the closing down of your village. hope all is well even in these somewhat troubled times. Japanese culture may not be so different from the western world but there are many differences. you can tell at a glance that island nation is different. how big is the "conspiracy" movement in Japan...? amongst common people not Yakuza or people in the system. to ask a simpler way, how many Japanese people generally don't trust authorities? is this a common viewpoint... to distrust Japanese police officers, politicians, bankers, etc? |
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SteamrolledGobias User ID: 46787476 United States 10/29/2013 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP's other post discussing some cultural background in Japan Thread: They are going to close my town |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70443775 Bulgaria 06/15/2017 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (NOTE: Quoting: Shinto Trainee The Nail That Sticks Out There is an old and well-known proverb in Japan: "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down." This refers to a group-oriented psychology whereby to be "different" or to disrupt the harmony of the group (to be a "nail that sticks out") is seen as a grave offence Meaning that the offender gets beheaded by the nearest samurai-psychopath , correct? In medieval Japoan at least. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75143966 Germany 06/26/2017 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting. I am still debating whether visiting Japan end of this year. I am not sure about how great the risk is to get contaminated food to eat. One cannot check everything with a Geiger counter on site, I guess. Then there is also the airborne hot particles, which cannot be measured with handheld instruments. Any thoughts? |
Judethz User ID: 73972951 United Kingdom 06/26/2017 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75143966 I am still debating whether visiting Japan end of this year. I am not sure about how great the risk is to get contaminated food to eat. One cannot check everything with a Geiger counter on site, I guess. Then there is also the airborne hot particles, which cannot be measured with handheld instruments. Any thoughts? Why not visit Southern Japan. |
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