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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 11/15/2013 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon Thread: Yes, the "sideways" or "horizontal" moon is normal, even as far north as Colorado... Thread: Oh look, the moon even looked "tilted" 370 years ago! It's just field rotation, and yes the above spreadsheet even works when the moon is in a gibbous phase like in your video. For example: Keep your eyes on the moon. During the beginning of the evening it's normal, but 2-3,4 hours into the evening it starts slowly rotating on it's axis to the right I believe. So the "face" we see is almost upside down... It's really creepy. If you folks don't believe me just watch for yourself. I first noticed it in the end of summer and I've been observing it ever since when there's no clouds, and it ALWAYS follows the same pattern: Normal at first, and then slowly starts rotating. Don't take my word for it, go out and look for yourself. It's not normal. Quoting: Kaits35 So glad someone else has been seeing the same shit. Msg me privately? You mean like this photo I took from San Diego a couple nights ago? [link to imageshack.us] Yeah, perfectly normal. Here's what the location and apparent orientation of the moon relative to the horizon was predicted to be for that location and time (my camera's clock is set 4 hours behind UT and runs about a minute fast): Input Year 2013 month 11 day 12 hour (UT) 6 minute 49 second 0 W Longitude (Decimal deg) 117.1625 Latitude (Decimal deg) (N+, S-) 32.715 Height above sea level (meters) 0 Pressure (mb) 1013.25 Temperature (Centigrade) 25 Lunar Coordinates Apparent Right Ascension at Equinox of date Hours 22 Minutes 59 Seconds 51.20 Apparent Declination at Equinox of date Degrees -2 Minutes -11 Seconds -55.79 Altitude (degrees) 30.06 Azimuth (degrees, 0 North) 244.91 Lunar Phase Phase (percent full) 71.95% Orientation of Illuminated Portion Relative to Horizon (degrees from vertical) 74.59 Illuminated limb facing towards the horizon This data comes from this spreadsheet I designed to calculate the apparent orientation of the moon: Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon Now if we take the above photo and de-rotate it by 74.59 degrees, here's what we get: [link to imageshack.us] Yeah, that's right, a nice "vertical" moon. Exactly as predicted. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 50026516 United States 11/15/2013 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old, stupid, and already debunked. Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon Thread: Yes, the "sideways" or "horizontal" moon is normal, even as far north as Colorado... Thread: Oh look, the moon even looked "tilted" 370 years ago! It's just field rotation, and yes the above spreadsheet even works when the moon is in a gibbous phase like in your video. For example: Keep your eyes on the moon. During the beginning of the evening it's normal, but 2-3,4 hours into the evening it starts slowly rotating on it's axis to the right I believe. So the "face" we see is almost upside down... It's really creepy. If you folks don't believe me just watch for yourself. I first noticed it in the end of summer and I've been observing it ever since when there's no clouds, and it ALWAYS follows the same pattern: Normal at first, and then slowly starts rotating. Don't take my word for it, go out and look for yourself. It's not normal. Quoting: Kaits35 So glad someone else has been seeing the same shit. Msg me privately? You mean like this photo I took from San Diego a couple nights ago? [link to imageshack.us] Yeah, perfectly normal. Here's what the location and apparent orientation of the moon relative to the horizon was predicted to be for that location and time (my camera's clock is set 4 hours behind UT and runs about a minute fast): Input Year 2013 month 11 day 12 hour (UT) 6 minute 49 second 0 W Longitude (Decimal deg) 117.1625 Latitude (Decimal deg) (N+, S-) 32.715 Height above sea level (meters) 0 Pressure (mb) 1013.25 Temperature (Centigrade) 25 Lunar Coordinates Apparent Right Ascension at Equinox of date Hours 22 Minutes 59 Seconds 51.20 Apparent Declination at Equinox of date Degrees -2 Minutes -11 Seconds -55.79 Altitude (degrees) 30.06 Azimuth (degrees, 0 North) 244.91 Lunar Phase Phase (percent full) 71.95% Orientation of Illuminated Portion Relative to Horizon (degrees from vertical) 74.59 Illuminated limb facing towards the horizon This data comes from this spreadsheet I designed to calculate the apparent orientation of the moon: Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon Now if we take the above photo and de-rotate it by 74.59 degrees, here's what we get: [link to imageshack.us] Yeah, that's right, a nice "vertical" moon. Exactly as predicted. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 11/15/2013 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old, stupid, and already debunked. Quoting: Dr. Astro Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon Thread: Yes, the "sideways" or "horizontal" moon is normal, even as far north as Colorado... Thread: Oh look, the moon even looked "tilted" 370 years ago! It's just field rotation, and yes the above spreadsheet even works when the moon is in a gibbous phase like in your video. For example: So glad someone else has been seeing the same shit. Msg me privately? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49246351 You mean like this photo I took from San Diego a couple nights ago? [link to imageshack.us] Yeah, perfectly normal. Here's what the location and apparent orientation of the moon relative to the horizon was predicted to be for that location and time (my camera's clock is set 4 hours behind UT and runs about a minute fast): Input Year 2013 month 11 day 12 hour (UT) 6 minute 49 second 0 W Longitude (Decimal deg) 117.1625 Latitude (Decimal deg) (N+, S-) 32.715 Height above sea level (meters) 0 Pressure (mb) 1013.25 Temperature (Centigrade) 25 Lunar Coordinates Apparent Right Ascension at Equinox of date Hours 22 Minutes 59 Seconds 51.20 Apparent Declination at Equinox of date Degrees -2 Minutes -11 Seconds -55.79 Altitude (degrees) 30.06 Azimuth (degrees, 0 North) 244.91 Lunar Phase Phase (percent full) 71.95% Orientation of Illuminated Portion Relative to Horizon (degrees from vertical) 74.59 Illuminated limb facing towards the horizon This data comes from this spreadsheet I designed to calculate the apparent orientation of the moon: Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon Now if we take the above photo and de-rotate it by 74.59 degrees, here's what we get: [link to imageshack.us] Yeah, that's right, a nice "vertical" moon. Exactly as predicted. If it's BS, show where my calculations are "BS." |
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DVCMCM User ID: 50501193 Italy 11/24/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's field rotation, and nothing new. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50009503 Why do people keep posting these threads? Hve they never looked at the moon before in their lives? Are you an astros backing ass shill tool or a big dumb on planet earth? - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 11/24/2013 02:17 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47938245 United States 11/24/2013 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's field rotation, and nothing new. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50009503 Why do people keep posting these threads? Hve they never looked at the moon before in their lives? Are you an astros backing ass shill tool or a big dumb on planet earth? - Are you an idiot that never looked up until the last few years? You've been shown references dating back to antiquity showing field rotation and apparently rotated moons. It is YOUR issue that you don't understand it and wish to troll instead. |
DVCMCM User ID: 50525575 Italy 11/24/2013 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's field rotation, and nothing new. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50009503 Why do people keep posting these threads? Hve they never looked at the moon before in their lives? Are you an astros backing ass shill tool or a big dumb on planet earth? - Are you an idiot that never looked up until the last few years? You've been shown references dating back to antiquity showing field rotation and apparently rotated moons. It is YOUR issue that you don't understand it and wish to troll instead. Oh, look how you jumped in my other thread quickly after that dumb reply, Thread: Freaky Moon At Noon ( IS-ON ) is it just a coincidence? - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 11/24/2013 05:16 PM |