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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48890882  United States11/20/2013 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how the craft Deep Impact is perfectly lined up to get the best images of ISON crossing the Sun on Nov 28. Quoting: --Voltaic-- Ha! Hardly. Deep Impact is in no way even equipped to fulfill such a mission, let alone is it "lined up" to use equipment it doesn't have. STEREO and SOHO are perfectly equipped to observe the approach and departure of ISON, but that's because they're designed to observe the area around the sun so of course they're going to see a major sungrazer quite well. Okay, supposing we know of all the technology at their disposal. Still doesn't explain the coincidence value. Doesn't have to be their to view. It could be there to interact electronically, gravitationally, etc. Like I said, I am not claiming anything I can't prove. The line up is indisputable. OP no offense but please stop using mathematical terms when it's unlikely you can properly divide. You ruined all your credibility and earned a 1* from me based off of your idiotic assertion that the odds are 1: billion then akin to powerball odds. STFU or show me your math. |
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| KidIcarus User ID: 21569632 United States11/20/2013 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. Astro, Quoting: Gabriel I think most of us get the point that you come here with very learned opinion in which I for one take into high consideration. But I also like to hear all other possibilities. Is it a sport for you to come to a conspiracy web sight to debunk other peoples theories, beliefs, and thought processes? Some of us know the written laws of physics but also like to be inspired to think outside the boundaries of mans knowledge (so far) of these laws. I, and i believe the majority of us, would much rather hear more idea's and what if's.... than things we can read from a text book or a Government (NASA, NOAA, etc.) web site. Thanks for your attention, Gabe ## great post astro please answer why you spend hours on this website every single day, posting stuff we can read at the websites of nasa, wikipedia and so on.. Ditto, ditto, ditto. Dr. Astro doesn't seem to understand that we don't TRUST NASA, or our government, not at all. They have proven themselves untrustworthy. Oh well. He'll understand the error of his rigid belief in institutional authority soon enough, if what I believe about ISON turns out to be even remotely true. Voltaic, EXCELLENT THREAD. Thank you for bringing light to this. Can't wait to see what the end of this month holds. IT'S ALMOST HERE!!!!!!!!!! |
Turtles Voice  User ID: 15791612 United States11/20/2013 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting  to find later."In order to arrive at what you are not, You must go through the way in which you are not." -TS Eliot [link to www.turtlesvoice.com] Momma Said Write A Book About It - New novel [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17297487 United Kingdom11/20/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's the point in arguing over ISON? If the thing is a threat, arguing over it and abusing Astro isn't going to stop the thing is it? Quoting: Astrum  whats the point arguing over anytheng then? you make no sense Because some things can have solutions......if ISON is this bringer of doom that some seem to want so much, then how do you suppose it could be stopped?? |
| M*walk Low Earth Orbit User ID: 45825497 United States11/20/2013 01:33 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. Astro, Quoting: Gabriel I think most of us get the point that you come here with very learned opinion in which I for one take into high consideration. But I also like to hear all other possibilities. Is it a sport for you to come to a conspiracy web sight to debunk other peoples theories, beliefs, and thought processes? Some of us know the written laws of physics but also like to be inspired to think outside the boundaries of mans knowledge (so far) of these laws. I, and i believe the majority of us, would much rather hear more idea's and what if's.... than things we can read from a text book or a Government (NASA, NOAA, etc.) web site. Thanks for your attention, Gabe ## great post astro please answer why you spend hours on this website every single day, posting stuff we can read at the websites of nasa, wikipedia and so on.. Ditto, ditto, ditto. Dr. Astro doesn't seem to understand that we don't TRUST NASA, or our government, not at all. They have proven themselves untrustworthy. Oh well. He'll understand the error of his rigid belief in institutional authority soon enough, if what I believe about ISON turns out to be even remotely true. Voltaic, EXCELLENT THREAD. Thank you for bringing light to this. Can't wait to see what the end of this month holds. IT'S ALMOST HERE!!!!!!!!!! Karma will catch up to dr asshole when he's buried alive in his DUMBS..... “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” |
| whiteangel also known as WA User ID: 43857184 United States11/20/2013 01:38 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. Astro, Quoting: Gabriel I think most of us get the point that you come here with very learned opinion in which I for one take into high consideration. But I also like to hear all other possibilities. Is it a sport for you to come to a conspiracy web sight to debunk other peoples theories, beliefs, and thought processes? Some of us know the written laws of physics but also like to be inspired to think outside the boundaries of mans knowledge (so far) of these laws. I, and i believe the majority of us, would much rather hear more idea's and what if's.... than things we can read from a text book or a Government (NASA, NOAA, etc.) web site. Thanks for your attention, Gabe  First time I have ever used this annoying smiley!! Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1829477 United States11/20/2013 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voltaic because of the difference in size between the Sun and Ison, in that app the 3 Points you speak of would look Perfectly Align on 28 Nov, irrespective of the position of Deep Impact Quoting: andreidita because basically, on 28 Nov Ison and the Sun look on that applet as being at the same geometrical point and that point will seem to perfectly align with any other point, be it Deep Impact, Earth, Venus etc :) This point seems pretty valid to me, someone else care to address it? |
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| funnie isinit User ID: 23591792 United States11/20/2013 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how the craft Deep Impact is perfectly lined up to get the best images of ISON crossing the Sun on Nov 28. Quoting: --Voltaic-- Ha! Hardly. Deep Impact is in no way even equipped to fulfill such a mission, let alone is it "lined up" to use equipment it doesn't have. STEREO and SOHO are perfectly equipped to observe the approach and departure of ISON, but that's because they're designed to observe the area around the sun so of course they're going to see a major sungrazer quite well. I new a guy once who could tell me about black holes 40 years ago. I know a guy who told him what they did.40 years ago , |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1458136 United States11/20/2013 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i noticed, everytime theres a thread about ison that cant be debunked, several obama threads are mega pinned. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50294855 since when is this a forum about politics That, and there is no more conspiracy in politics, its already been stripped naked and viewed! Space conspiracy on the other hand, is attacked by obvious posters attacking... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25742271 United States11/20/2013 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro It was designed to view comets, close up, it was not designed to stare at the sun which is what it would have to do to see ISON at perihelion. Oh, and it was not in a good state by the time the probe died. Being in deep space that long exposed to cosmic radiation for an extended period of time took its toll on the equipment, which was only designed for an operational life of one year.  If it was designed for an operational life of one year, why you said that it should reach asteroid 2012 GT in 2020? ?????????????????????????????? As an engineer I would say it seems very wasteful for NASA to design it for an op life of 1 year. Any such endeavour would be a costly one, hardly seems they'd get their money's worth with only one year of op life. Yeah, prove it was only designed to be op for a year and yet still somehow view an Asteroid in 2020. What a load of crap. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 146056 United Kingdom11/20/2013 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49871947 United States11/20/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have never seen the word coincidence abused this much in a thread. For fucks sake can we all just wait to see what actually happens then point fingers at who was wrong? So if it does it whoever dies who thought otherwise GG sir your stalemate caused your death. If it doesn't oh the fuck well look forward to the next doom in line. Geez arguing over shit no one has accurate information on what might actually happen. |
| What? User ID: 49409677 United States11/20/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suppose they know how long the solar output would fry the CCD. With ISON in the way, the solar output is slightly reduced in relation to the CCD. Quoting: --Voltaic-- Bullshit. ISON wouldn't affect it in any way. Fried is fried, ISON will not change that at all, nor will it reduce or increase the time it takes to fry it. Well, it will. Can we measure it, probably not. It may reduce it by 0.0000001%....in fact, this is calculable. Cross sectional area of Sun minus the cross section area of the comet in relation to the observer. That ratio against solar output. No, the comet is not going to block the sun's light, it's not a solid object except for the physical nucleus which is only a couple kilometers in size and will not be resolvable by even a 12" telescope. It would not affect anything at all. I was under the assumption that we couldn't even see the real nucleus because of how bright the coma has become. But I don't really know... |
| *Ozone Baby* User ID: 49063996  Canada11/20/2013 01:45 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting. Quoting: Spin Nips Wonder if this comet has anything to do with them banning amateur and private scientists access to NEO information a couple years back. Right. They've classified NEO data. Yet on the same token they've grounded WISE. What's up with that? How about the Space Fence? Not long after the Russian meteor they decide to shut down the Space Fence? What's up with that? Makes no sense to me.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
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| TRUE User ID: 49409677 United States11/20/2013 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it was designed for an operational life of one year, why you said that it should reach asteroid 2012 GT in 2020? haha caught is their own lie. I think everyone just needs to admit this...NO one knows what the hell ISON is. That seems to be a publicly stated fact by multiple astronomers. The fact the Astro is pretty much saying his word is law is kind of redundant considering I know he isn't a professional astronomer. I think we should all sit back, enjoy the ride, and watch this Comet probably change our history. Even then though there will still be those in denial. ?????????????????????????????? As an engineer I would say it seems very wasteful for NASA to design it for an op life of 1 year. Any such endeavour would be a costly one, hardly seems they'd get their money's worth with only one year of op life. Yeah, prove it was only designed to be op for a year and yet still somehow view an Asteroid in 2020. What a load of crap. |
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| *Ozone Baby* User ID: 49063996 Canada11/20/2013 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is the comet thats gonna have have absolutley no impact on us what so ever right ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 146056 you read that on nasa.gov or did astro tell you? My only concern about any implications to Earth lie with traveling through the debris in January. I think it will be either sparkles in the sky or fireballs. Kind of concerning to me since I am scheduled to be on a plane to South America right on the 16th!!  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States11/20/2013 01:51 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it was designed for an operational life of one year, why you said that it should reach asteroid 2012 GT in 2020? ?????????????????????????????? As an engineer I would say it seems very wasteful for NASA to design it for an op life of 1 year. Any such endeavour would be a costly one, hardly seems they'd get their money's worth with only one year of op life. Yeah, prove it was only designed to be op for a year and yet still somehow view an Asteroid in 2020. What a load of crap. Probes exceed their operational designed life all the time. Spirit and Opportunity are classic examples of that. Not every probe ends up exceeding its operational lifespan by as much. "The Hartley-2 encounter completed when the Flyby spacecraft was nearly 6-years old, over six-times its design life. As such, some of the hardware began to show its age." [link to www.spaceops2012.org]  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49303374 United States11/20/2013 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voltaic because of the difference in size between the Sun and Ison, in that app the 3 Points you speak of would look Perfectly Align on 28 Nov, irrespective of the position of Deep Impact Quoting: andreidita because basically, on 28 Nov Ison and the Sun look on that applet as being at the same geometrical point and that point will seem to perfectly align with any other point, be it Deep Impact, Earth, Venus etc :) This point seems pretty valid to me, someone else care to address it? Is your icon supposed to be "creepy" or "sexual" ? |
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| *Ozone Baby* User ID: 49063996 Canada11/20/2013 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50257895 If it was designed for an operational life of one year, why you said that it should reach asteroid 2012 GT in 2020? ?????????????????????????????? As an engineer I would say it seems very wasteful for NASA to design it for an op life of 1 year. Any such endeavour would be a costly one, hardly seems they'd get their money's worth with only one year of op life. Yeah, prove it was only designed to be op for a year and yet still somehow view an Asteroid in 2020. What a load of crap. Probes exceed their operational designed life all the time. Spirit and Opportunity are classic examples of that. Not every probe ends up exceeding its operational lifespan by as much. "The Hartley-2 encounter completed when the Flyby spacecraft was nearly 6-years old, over six-times its design life. As such, some of the hardware began to show its age." [link to www.spaceops2012.org] But still, from an O&M perspective it would be incredibly wasteful to build and launch this thing with an operating life of one year. Sure the probes and components may be rated for longer, but for the project as a whole to have a one year operating life, I'd need some convincing that this is factual. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
