DOOM: Gov knew of ISON in 2004!!!

Speaking of the spirit of the topic, anyone want to address this?

A lot of whining at me, but not a lot of addressing what I actually presented. Namely, that there is nothing special about the so-called alignment, and that one STEREO satellite is closer to being "aligned" anyway while the other STEREO satellite has a superior view of the event.

why do you love pissing off in your neighbor house (this thread)
while can enjoy at leisure your lifestyle in your own house (your other pinned thread)?

this is not Fair-Play

and you gave me once red karma for "Irrelevant meta-discussion" :))))))))))))))

A lot of whining at me, but not a lot of addressing what I actually presented. Namely, that there is nothing special about the so-called alignment, and that one STEREO satellite is closer to being "aligned" anyway while the other STEREO satellite has a superior view of the event.

YES YES YES YES YES
What you showed in the video is True and Correct.
I, for one, acknowledged it twice in this thread

But why do you feel the need to FORCE others to accept truth??!!

Speaking of the spirit of the topic, anyone want to address this?

A lot of whining at me, but not a lot of addressing what I actually presented. Namely, that there is nothing special about the so-called alignment, and that one STEREO satellite is closer to being "aligned" anyway while the other STEREO satellite has a superior view of the event.

I'm not forcing you to accept anything, I'm trying to steer the discussion back to the subject. You don't have to agree with the video. By all means, disagree, but let's have a discussion on the substance of it, rather than attacking each other personally.

Yes, it scouted comet Hartley 2 thereafter. After that its fuel tanks were nearly empty, but with the last of the fuel they set it on course to meet up with asteroid 2002 GT in 2020. ISON was just a "target of opportunity" along the way, although they couldn't maneuver closer to ISON or set up any sort of "special alignment" - there was no delta-V left to speak of in the fuel tanks.

Everything else on Deep Impact appears to be performing well, he adds. The solar arrays have deployed, and the batteries are charging... [link to www.newscientist.com]

That was a pretty inexcusable example of government stupidity, but this? Your expectations are of a healthy spacecraft 8 years old yet with a design life of only 1 year. That does occasionally happen, but it is fortunate when it does, it is not guaranteed. Even at 6 years old EPOXI was starting to show problems.

"The Hartley-2 encounter completed
when the Flyby spacecraft was nearly 6-years old, over six-times its design life. As such, some of the hardware
began to show its age. The main subsystem that was causing operational issues was the downlink path of
the telecommunications equipment...
...In February 2008, the prime TWTA (TWTA-A) began showing symptoms that it may be aging. Project
management decided to swap to the backup TWTA (TWTA-B) to preserve the life of TWTA-A. This TWTA
situation was further exacerbated in April 2008 when signal strength (from TWTA-B) lost 8dB (75%) of its
power. This is brie
y mentioned in reference 3. The leading hypothesis of this anomaly was a thermal issue
created because the spacecraft was closer to the sun than it had ever been before causing higher temperatures.
As the spacecraft progressed in its orbit and the spacecraft{sun distance increased, the signal strength was
restored to its full power lending credibility to this hypothesis. However, there was a competing hypothesis
of debris in the waveguide. If this were to be true and the debris worked its way into the waveguide transfer
switch, there was a risk that the waveguide transfer switch could become stuck between its two positions
when toggled. This would block any radio signal from getting out of either antenna and end the mission.
This is similar to what was experienced on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter,9 fortunately its switch is stuck
in one of its operational positions.
The possibility of a mission-ending failure necessitated a ban on toggling the waveguide transfer switch.
The only method now available to the
ight team to swap between antennas is to power o one TWTA and
power on the other. Routine power-cycling of TWTAs was not recommended by the manufacturer and the flight team made the decision to drop communication when turning off-Earth for science imaging. This was
comically referred to as the "no-gain antenna."
"
[link to www.spaceops2012.org]

Effectively it's like having a car that's gone 8 times over the recommended oil change limit, and you're complaining when it breaks down and no one is out there to fix it.

Hmmm.. an article from 2004

The $330 million mission will effectively end about a month after the collision, when the flyby spacecraft finishes sending all of its stored data back to Earth. It will then move into a safe solar orbit or, if NASA provides more funding, scout out a second comet.

[link to www.newscientist.com]

Why would the USA put a probe up there at 330 million to do a one year job. The Rosetta probe from the same time period, is going to be working for over ten years.

BOOM! Now THAT'S what I'm talking about! OK, back to ignoring the useless shills & trolls. We have to be on to something for them to be THIS relentless. I will, as Thor suggests, "Armor up and rise above it".
So OP's premise has verifiable weight. YOU GO Voltaic!!
So what do we know at this point?
We have a Spacecraft continuing to part B of its mission(I could easily see THIS being the TRUE focus of the mission & it's earlier mission being the distraction), in a position to, at the very least, view Comet ISON(unsure about ENCKE, which would be of interest to find out, though that may well have been brought up earlier & I missed it in all the mess).
We have the verification that the crafts cameras are, in fact, operational & sending back data.
We know that the Sun is in the midst of a Magnetic(polar?) Reversal & it has been stated that the Sun's Magnetosphere will drop to zero in the process making the timing of Comet ISON's paraheleon of that much more potential interest & importance.
What else do we have/know?

And there is more to that little story..

After completing its primary mission, it investigated a second comet called Hartley 2. It also investigated two other comets from a long distance. The extended mission for the spacecraft was to search for extrasolar planets. The next major mission for the Deep Impact spacecraft was to head towards an asteroid approaching Earth called 2002 GT. That asteroid is considered a hazardous object because its orbit will bring it as close as 4.7 million miles from Earth

[link to www.slashgear.com]

Exactly what I have been asking. Not at all cost effective....unless there was another more covert use for it after it has outlived its "project" life.

But there couldn't be a covert use because they would have told Astro if there was.

No, it's the truth.

And there is more to that little story..

After completing its primary mission, it investigated a second comet called Hartley 2. It also investigated two other comets from a long distance. The extended mission for the spacecraft was to search for extrasolar planets. The next major mission for the Deep Impact spacecraft was to head towards an asteroid approaching Earth called 2002 GT. That asteroid is considered a hazardous object because its orbit will bring it as close as 4.7 million miles from Earth

[link to www.slashgear.com]

Thank You for sharing this information with us. I have a few things to do before I'll be able to devote the time that I feel the material deserves hopefully I can dig into it this evening.
Thank You, once again!:-)

Why would you ban someone from a thread? This is a discussion forum with free speech. If you don't like the person, then ignore them. That simple.

i am not sucking up - i am sticking up for a friend
i am not saying he is right or wrong or anything. i am talking about what it feels like to read through all this. it isnt even going anywhere, it has no point, it wont resolve anything or fix anything. and it gets worse everytime it pops up - which is everytime he posts. it starts with a little sarcastic dig, a name, an accusation. some people like to goad him until all this breaks out. all i am saying is it would be nice if people gave a little breathing room. if you see someone getting flamed, let them get flamed and enjoy it - why does every body have to dogpile on top too?

Why would the USA put a probe up there at 330 million to do a one year job. The Rosetta probe from the same time period, is going to be working for over ten years.

Rosetta is taking much longer to reach its ultimate target, to say the least, but Deep Impact was one of the most important space missions in human history imho. It's an important milestone in the path to developing the ability to defend the planet against future impacts. Of course it wasn't really sold that way and the scientist don't really emphasize that point, but I think it's an important one. The vast majority of the time any probe spends in deep space is spent idling, waiting to be woken up at the destination, so I don't really see the complaint here. It was a fast return on the investment.

You are welcome, and please if you can, find that 2002 GT for me, if you know how.

(163249) 2002GT:

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]