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OBAMACARE: White House telling Insurance Companies to cover those who have put plan in "shopping cart"

 
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OBAMACARE: White House telling Insurance Companies to cover those who have put plan in "shopping cart"
That is like telling Amazon to ship all the books in people's "shopping carts" without them actually paying. Who would do that?

Did the Amazon customers ever intend on actually buying the books in their shopping cart?

We can't know. What if the "customers" keep the books and still never pay? Who is on the hook, then?

This will ensure that no new insurance companies will be willing to participate in the new Federal Health Insurance Exchanges...

Thereby severely reducing choices of consumers by reducing competition among insurance companies...

Thereby spiking rates on the exchange (that were already very high & unaffordable for most)...

Thereby finally driving the proverbial train off the proverbial cliff...

Think "Thelma and Louise" ending.

[link to www.forbes.com]
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How horribly bad are the government data management systems, for the White House to actually consider going down this road?

How many people want insurance through this Exchange and can't even get properly enrolled, even after three months of attempting to sign up? After being kicked off perfectly good, affordable plans that they liked?
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How could this plan get any worse? All the people hate it, and now after this latest move, the insurance companies, to a one, will be furious. The executives will be spitting mad, and that will trickle down to EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE of those companies.

They will all start blaming Obamacare for every little thing now.

This is so serious that I think the Obama crowd is broken and in a vengeful mood - paying back the insurance companies for charging these rates. They came in way higher then expected and the deductibles are outrageous. I think there is a serious fight on, we only get a little glimpse here and there.

This thing is a horror story - nobody will win. Expendable average citizens are the biggest losers, as always.
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Absolutely outrageous !

Obama is a corrupt. lawless, weasel.
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I felt like when he delayed the employer mandate for a year, but left the individual mandate in place starting Jan 1 (without going to Congress for approval), that he really jumped the shark.

That seemed so extreme that it could only mean they were desperate and backed into a corner.
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Mark of the beast??????
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Shouldn't everyone be covered for free?
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12/16/2013 12:13 AM
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Shouldn't everyone be covered for free?
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If they choose to be.
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laugh

:shamwowzero:
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More like Amazon sending you everything in your wish list and billing you for it on your credit card.
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Currently we have health insurance $724 per month for 2 adults and one teen with $10,000 deductible. As of January our premium is going up to $924 per month. Our policy is grandfathered in and not Obamacare. This is an individual policy, not employer paid. Instead of having a $2,500 reduction in our premium as Obama said would be the average, we are getting a $2,400 increase. I remember when I had a policy with $100 deductible and $100 per month premium for a family of three and you actually got health care.
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Currently we have health insurance $724 per month for 2 adults and one teen with $10,000 deductible. As of January our premium is going up to $924 per month. Our policy is grandfathered in and not Obamacare. This is an individual policy, not employer paid. Instead of having a $2,500 reduction in our premium as Obama said would be the average, we are getting a $2,400 increase. I remember when I had a policy with $100 deductible and $100 per month premium for a family of three and you actually got health care.
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My PT union job pays for my health insurance 100% no deductible $10 copay 100% for everything else.
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How could this plan get any worse? All the people hate it, and now after this latest move, the insurance companies, to a one, will be furious. The executives will be spitting mad, and that will trickle down to EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE of those companies.

They will all start blaming Obamacare for every little thing now.

This is so serious that I think the Obama crowd is broken and in a vengeful mood - paying back the insurance companies for charging these rates. They came in way higher then expected and the deductibles are outrageous. I think there is a serious fight on, we only get a little glimpse here and there.

This thing is a horror story - nobody will win. Expendable average citizens are the biggest losers, as always.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51592178


The insurance companies will have their executives jailed by Obama if they complain to loudly.

But then maybe they should be jailed anyway for misrepresenting what the premiums would be and not providing a contract that the person was able to read before signing.
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That is like telling Amazon to ship all the books in people's "shopping carts" without them actually paying. Who would do that?

Did the Amazon customers ever intend on actually buying the books in their shopping cart?

We can't know. What if the "customers" keep the books and still never pay? Who is on the hook, then?

This will ensure that no new insurance companies will be willing to participate in the new Federal Health Insurance Exchanges...

Thereby severely reducing choices of consumers by reducing competition among insurance companies...

Thereby spiking rates on the exchange (that were already very high & unaffordable for most)...

Thereby finally driving the proverbial train off the proverbial cliff...

Think "Thelma and Louise" ending.

[link to www.forbes.com]
 Quoting: Econ 101 51592178


WILL YOU PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSE STFU ABOUT THIS LOSER!!!
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How could this plan get any worse? All the people hate it, and now after this latest move, the insurance companies, to a one, will be furious. The executives will be spitting mad, and that will trickle down to EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE of those companies.

They will all start blaming Obamacare for every little thing now.

This is so serious that I think the Obama crowd is broken and in a vengeful mood - paying back the insurance companies for charging these rates. They came in way higher then expected and the deductibles are outrageous. I think there is a serious fight on, we only get a little glimpse here and there.

This thing is a horror story - nobody will win. Expendable average citizens are the biggest losers, as always.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51592178


The insurance companies will have their executives jailed by Obama if they complain to loudly.

But then maybe they should be jailed anyway for misrepresenting what the premiums would be and not providing a contract that the person was able to read before signing.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


who the fuck cares, fuck me, GET A LIFE !!!
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the king issues a fiat
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This asshole and his cronies really couldn't get more retarded.


The companies will just bail.

They'll know they can never get reimbursed legally for this coverage when people didn't actually sign up for their plans.


No court will allow them to collect.

Pathetic attempt.

game over
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Just more proof that the only purpose of Obamasocialistcare is to run private insurance companies out of business, so Obama and his merry band of Marxists can claim that the free market failed and institute a fully-socialist medical system. If that happens, the resulting calamity will make Obamasocialistcare look like a kindergarten play.
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"who the fuck cares, fuck me, GET A LIFE !!!"

lol

Or, if you listen to these whinging bastards, 'get a life' insurance policy.

They just go on and on and on.

An OP writes of the latest news of what a fuck cluster Obammy care is, a few other people write in confirming that it is indeed a fuck cluster, one or two others give their personal testimoney - 'I now have to pay $50,000 a year and my kid has a birthmark that looks like 666 on his right hand' - then another gaggle of geese jump-in honking with "Yassir, it shore bees bad, Yass, indeed' like elders supporting a Memphis Baptist church minister.

We get it. It's fucked-up. It bees bad.

lol
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What if the shopper decided it was too expensive and got a policy elsewhere? Or couldn't afford it at all? Or was a reporter researching rates?
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It is treasonous for Congress to sit there watching what is happening and do nothing to stop this imposter. It is treasonous to allow the Kenyan to enact or sign anything having to do with the country.

WTF is wrong with them?
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Get "covered".

All of us who have horses know what that means! LOL

kissup
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How could this plan get any worse? All the people hate it, and now after this latest move, the insurance companies, to a one, will be furious. The executives will be spitting mad, and that will trickle down to EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE of those companies.

They will all start blaming Obamacare for every little thing now.

This is so serious that I think the Obama crowd is broken and in a vengeful mood - paying back the insurance companies for charging these rates. They came in way higher then expected and the deductibles are outrageous. I think there is a serious fight on, we only get a little glimpse here and there.

This thing is a horror story - nobody will win. Expendable average citizens are the biggest losers, as always.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51592178


The insurance companies will have their executives jailed by Obama if they complain to loudly.

But then maybe they should be jailed anyway for misrepresenting what the premiums would be and not providing a contract that the person was able to read before signing.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


who the fuck cares, fuck me, GET A LIFE !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51615965


cruise cruise cruise
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That is like telling Amazon to ship all the books in people's "shopping carts" without them actually paying. Who would do that?

Did the Amazon customers ever intend on actually buying the books in their shopping cart?

We can't know. What if the "customers" keep the books and still never pay? Who is on the hook, then?

This will ensure that no new insurance companies will be willing to participate in the new Federal Health Insurance Exchanges...

Thereby severely reducing choices of consumers by reducing competition among insurance companies...

Thereby spiking rates on the exchange (that were already very high & unaffordable for most)...

Thereby finally driving the proverbial train off the proverbial cliff...

Think "Thelma and Louise" ending.

[link to www.forbes.com]
 Quoting: Econ 101 51592178


this just gets better by the thread /sarc
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How could this plan get any worse? All the people hate it, and now after this latest move, the insurance companies, to a one, will be furious. The executives will be spitting mad, and that will trickle down to EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE of those companies.

They will all start blaming Obamacare for every little thing now.

This is so serious that I think the Obama crowd is broken and in a vengeful mood - paying back the insurance companies for charging these rates. They came in way higher then expected and the deductibles are outrageous. I think there is a serious fight on, we only get a little glimpse here and there.

This thing is a horror story - nobody will win. Expendable average citizens are the biggest losers, as always.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51592178


It is a horror story, every day, gets worse, are we still living in America? I feel like I just moved to another country.

This would infuriate me esp. if I was just "holding" a plan there for future reference as I was looking at others and hadn't made up my mind yet one way or the other. Man, get out your waders, the *hit's getting deep.
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So then my questions would be, what about those whom are unemployed? How do they pay for this Obamacare? Personally I am in school right now to try and better myself due to continuous layoffs. Once my unemployment runs out, I will have no money to pay for any type of health insurance. So basically they are forcing me to buy into this Obamacrap otherwise I suffer from penalties? Isn't this whole thing unconstitutional? Anyways, sorry just needed to rant there.
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how do you pay if unemployed?

is that like an education loan?

fricking lame man....
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Exactly my point. Being unemployed how do they expect you to pay? I mean unemployment maybe lower in some states however those of us that are unemployed like myself can't afford to pay for Obamacare and what little money I do get from unemployment (which is ending in December) has to go towards house bills and my $300/month tuition that I have to pay just to attend school... I don't feel that it is right to be penalized on this bullshit. I haven't signed up for it and I'm not planning on it.
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Shouldn't everyone be covered for free?
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Please explain how that works for us idiots.
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oh dear!.. i went on there for a lark.. mind you i lied, so i was free....

can i have a food stamp?
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Shouldn't everyone be covered for free?
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Please explain how that works for us idiots.
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OC is a tax. Its not an investment.





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