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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Self-proclaimed "Mayor" of Sloviansk Ponomaryov has himself now been taken hostage by Kremlin agents in Sloviansk, and possibly taken to Donetsk.
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Per srcs in #Kiev #ATO will suspend for 1week, let all w arms retreat to #Russia.After the deadline all remained liquidated in whole #Donbas
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When they say liquidated....are we talking sudden air raids, all out battles, or just one big "boom".
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Probably air raids over cities and artillery barrages. All out destruction..
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Russia's FSB says bomb attacks foiled in Moscow, Crimea

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There's your pretext, right there. Making this public is a veiled threat.
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Self-proclaimed "Mayor" of Sloviansk Ponomaryov has himself now been taken hostage by Kremlin agents in Sloviansk, and possibly taken to Donetsk.
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The pawn who thought he was a king.
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What was wrong with it? Turnout was above 90% People on the streets looked hyped. Only ones against were Tatar minority and Ukranians but most of them didnt vote cause there was no use. Russians have the numbers there.
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I see, you're okay with one election, but not the other.
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That was independence referendum not country wide elections. Only one entitled to vote were Crimeans, right? Whats wrong with people deciding their own fate?
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But you believe that one election result is legitimate, while the other is not?
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Why wouldnt it be? It was done in a hurry but people have decided. Thats how new countries start. We did the same in 1991, Belgrade didnt acknowledge our plebiscit but who gave a shit, we decided.
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Self-proclaimed "Mayor" of Sloviansk Ponomaryov has himself now been taken hostage by Kremlin agents in Sloviansk, and possibly taken to Donetsk.
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The pawn who thought he was a king.
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ministry of propaganda ;)
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Self-proclaimed "Mayor" of Sloviansk Ponomaryov has himself now been taken hostage by Kremlin agents in Sloviansk, and possibly taken to Donetsk.
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clappaclappaclappa

That guy liked kidnapping people and taking them hostage. I wonder if he still has that smug look on his face, like he did at that press conference when he kidnapped Simon Ostrovsky.

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@anti-banderist & DL: this chick Paula Slier is worthy to follow on twitter. She is embedded with anti Kiev fighters.
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East Ukraine insurgents supplied with hi-tech Russian arms: MANPADS used to down Ukrainian aircraft
[link to www.youtube.com]

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Very old news. Videos of a truckload of Ukraine army IGLA needles being "captured" were around a month ago.

The reason why they are "not commonly available to Ukraine" (if true) is because many were stolen by insiders from the Ukraine armed forces! Possibly sympathizers with NAF, more likely just common thieves out to make some big money fast.
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I see, you're okay with one election, but not the other.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


That was independence referendum not country wide elections. Only one entitled to vote were Crimeans, right? Whats wrong with people deciding their own fate?
 Quoting: Matjaz


But you believe that one election result is legitimate, while the other is not?
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


Why wouldnt it be? It was done in a hurry but people have decided. Thats how new countries start. We did the same in 1991, Belgrade didnt acknowledge our plebiscit but who gave a shit, we decided.
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Yeah, remember those days! Still do not think you pulled it entirely on your own ;)
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That was independence referendum not country wide elections. Only one entitled to vote were Crimeans, right? Whats wrong with people deciding their own fate?
 Quoting: Matjaz


But you believe that one election result is legitimate, while the other is not?
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


Why wouldnt it be? It was done in a hurry but people have decided. Thats how new countries start. We did the same in 1991, Belgrade didnt acknowledge our plebiscit but who gave a shit, we decided.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Yeah, remember those days! Still do not think you pulled it entirely on your own ;)
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Trust me it was done entirely by ourselfs. No help from the EU whatsoever. If you remember USA was against Yugoslav breakup and in EU only allies we had were Germans.
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Self-proclaimed "Mayor" of Sloviansk Ponomaryov has himself now been taken hostage by Kremlin agents in Sloviansk, and possibly taken to Donetsk.
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clappaclappaclappa

That guy liked kidnapping people and taking them hostage. I wonder if he still has that smug look on his face, like he did at that press conference when he kidnapped Simon Ostrovsky.
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that "news" is a hoax
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But you believe that one election result is legitimate, while the other is not?
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Why wouldnt it be? It was done in a hurry but people have decided. Thats how new countries start. We did the same in 1991, Belgrade didnt acknowledge our plebiscit but who gave a shit, we decided.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Yeah, remember those days! Still do not think you pulled it entirely on your own ;)
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Trust me it was done entirely by ourselfs. No help from the EU whatsoever. If you remember USA was against Yugoslav breakup and in EU only allies we had were Germans.
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I know! That was my point!
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Self-proclaimed "Mayor" of Sloviansk Ponomaryov has himself now been taken hostage by Kremlin agents in Sloviansk, and possibly taken to Donetsk.
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clappaclappaclappa

That guy liked kidnapping people and taking them hostage. I wonder if he still has that smug look on his face, like he did at that press conference when he kidnapped Simon Ostrovsky.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 · 16 min. Zobrazit překlad.
So it turns out the news about the arrest of #Ponomarev was a hoax picked up by russian media too pic.twitter.com/ugS6NMNXCT
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Self-proclaimed "Mayor" of Sloviansk Ponomaryov has himself now been taken hostage by Kremlin agents in Sloviansk, and possibly taken to Donetsk.
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clappaclappaclappa

That guy liked kidnapping people and taking them hostage. I wonder if he still has that smug look on his face, like he did at that press conference when he kidnapped Simon Ostrovsky.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 · 16 min. Zobrazit překlad.
So it turns out the news about the arrest of #Ponomarev was a hoax picked up by russian media too pic.twitter.com/ugS6NMNXCT
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


'a hoax' ... 'picked up by' ?

The first report of this came from Russian LifeNews who has agents on the ground in Sloviansk and Donetsk-

[link to lifenews.ru]
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Self-proclaimed "Mayor" of Sloviansk Ponomaryov has himself now been taken hostage by Kremlin agents in Sloviansk, and possibly taken to Donetsk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58306434


clappaclappaclappa

That guy liked kidnapping people and taking them hostage. I wonder if he still has that smug look on his face, like he did at that press conference when he kidnapped Simon Ostrovsky.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 · 16 min. Zobrazit překlad.
So it turns out the news about the arrest of #Ponomarev was a hoax picked up by russian media too pic.twitter.com/ugS6NMNXCT
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


'a hoax' ... 'picked up by' ?

The first report of this came from Russian LifeNews who has agents on the ground in Sloviansk and Donetsk-

[link to lifenews.ru]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58306434


Situation is not clear by my opinion. But there are two main storylines - first is that about hoax and nothing happened and second is about capturing Ponomaryov by DNR because lack of discipline.
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________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 · 8 min. 
#Lugansk militia: "The airport with 2.000 nat. guard inside is encircled. Aviation will be shot at with air defense" pic.twitter.com/WTaN0lqS3L
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Why wouldnt it be? It was done in a hurry but people have decided. Thats how new countries start. We did the same in 1991, Belgrade didnt acknowledge our plebiscit but who gave a shit, we decided.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Yeah, remember those days! Still do not think you pulled it entirely on your own ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59080317



Trust me it was done entirely by ourselfs. No help from the EU whatsoever. If you remember USA was against Yugoslav breakup and in EU only allies we had were Germans.
 Quoting: Matjaz

I know! That was my point!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59080317


hf Oh, you meant "ne mogu da verujem" in English it sounds diffrent , lulz.
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PONOMAREV WAS NOT ARRESTED BEEN PROVEN FALSE
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Only in Russia: Flood carries 'ballistic missile' into swamped village



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Russians drink too much vodka to be allowed to play with such big toys!
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Here is the very first report from anyone publicly about it:


LIFENEWS @lifenews_ru 3H
Vyacheslav Ponomarev removed from dolzhnosti mэra Slavic
[link to lifenews.ru]
Acting. Mayor appointed Vladimir Pavlenko




unclear at this point; we will find out soon enough

He had a drug overdose about 2 days ago and almost died. It had been reported long before that he may be an opiate addict. The powers that be in control of the east uprising may have had enough of it.
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"Reading those quotes in the panel on the right (in your link) made me think of the cancer treatment industry, for some reason." This happened because your either are a brilliant man, or you had a brilliant moment. Chemotherapy and war making are best buddies in my POV.
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reading the link on which you have commented made me think of the the rule of lie in the earthly world, whereas lie always wins because it has no restrictions, while the truth is limited only by the truth. Heavenly world, which is the source and the foundation for this one is the other way round... Do you remember, who is purged to the Lake of Fire? --- yes, it is the first liar.

As to the chemotherapy bit being like war, --- it is a nice one.
Thought it makes me think of chemotherapy vs. cannabis in the course of fighting cancer....
hm?...
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In this rule of lie in the Earthly World, what of the truth? Is the truth not divine? Without universal truth, humanity will be subjugated by nefarious forces like the 'illuminated ones' and the new world order forever.
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sure, but still, by the inheritance of man, the lie had been given the upper hand so far...
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"Lie being given the upper hand..." Got it. A test, or trial of faith maybe? Very interesting indeed.
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More info just in from LIFENEWS:


National position of mayor Sloviansk Ponomareva remains unclear
Previously, the information received on the dismissal and arrest in the city has not officially confirm nor deny.

[link to lifenews.ru]


Donbas continue to be conflicting reports about the fate of people's mayor Sloviansk Vyacheslav Ponomarev. In the city administration told LifeNews that the new acting head of the city has already been appointed Head of the Department of Social Protection Sloviansk Vladimir Pavlenko. However, it remains unknown location Ponomareva.

Also do not know where is currently the commander of the defense Sloviansk Colonel Igor Strelkov. According to early reports, it was he who ordered the detention of the national mayor.
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The inhabitants of Zaporozhye dispersed separatist rally

[link to 24tv.ua]



This is expected one of the next places hit by Putin's war.
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If this is true, then the UA, National Guard, Dumb Fuck Battallion (Donbas), Shit-for-Brains SBU, is totally compramised by Russian intelligence and operatives, period. You don\'t just \'capture\' 7 of these fucking EWFS. Holy fuck. If this keeps up, then Poroshenko might very well be Putin\'s man!
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no, he is not his man per se, but there is a danger that they will find some common grounds.
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They are neighbours, you idiot!
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your neighbor is a mexican, so,... do you have a wall?
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rofl5
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CUTTING OF WATER SUPPLY TO LUGANSK AIRPORT :)


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I see Vicky the nation builder is back in Ukraine with a new batch of cookies. No doubt she,s in Odessa to offer her condolances to the families of the Nazi massacre.

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hmmm... this seem to go with the Strelkov-Ponomaryov rumors...


Ukraine Reporter @StateOfUkraine 1h
ATO press officer: RU/pro-RU in #Sloviansk & #Semenovka, #Ukraine shot each other using mortars/artillery, then threw dead into local lake.
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Three and a half hours to expiration of the gas pre-payment deadline.

Rumour has it (meaning I read it but can't locate the source this minute, maybe someone else can?) that Biden's son is involved in the break-up (read looting) of (Ukrainian) state owned Naftogaz. And to boost its valuation it was necessary to put SouthStream in jeopardy (or preferably kill it off entirely).

Cutting off gas to and through Ukraine would be Russia's means to take reprisals for that.





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