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Cleveland House of Horrors - what is your gut feeling of this NOW?
The three women who survived their decade-long captivity in Ariel Castro's Cleveland House of Horrors shared a stage together in public for the first time on Monday night.

Amanda Berry, 27, Gina DeJesus, 24, and Michelle Knight, 33, were honored by Ohio Governor John Kasich at his annual courage awards - where they received a two-minute standing ovation.

Kasich called the women's story one of hurt beyond imagination, but also a story that didn't end there.

'It is also a story of three women who found an inner strength and a courage that brought them through and sustained them,' Kasich said near the end of his annual State of the State speech.


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Check out the photographs of the ladies and others. Even shortly after they were released after 'years', they were 'study material' to me.
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what do you mean study material?
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what do you mean study material?
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Stuff that I notice and that I start thinking about and studying.

Am referring not to the words in the article but the photographs and the photographs from the beginning of their escape.

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what do you mean study material?
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Stuff that I notice and that I start thinking about and studying.
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I guess I meant, what are your suppositions thus far? my gut tells me that you don't buy the story.
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what do you mean study material?
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Stuff that I notice and that I start thinking about and studying.
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I guess I meant, what are your suppositions thus far? my gut tells me that you don't buy the story.
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Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up.

When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years.

I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long.

Now take a look with crisis actor in mind.
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Do you think Ariel Castro was suicided? He know something "they" didn't want to get out?

All a big experiment?
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Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up.

When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years.

I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long.

Now take a look with crisis actor in mind.
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hmmm. interesting theory.

I guess my hesitancy on that is this: for what end?
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what do you mean study material?
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Stuff that I notice and that I start thinking about and studying.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


I guess I meant, what are your suppositions thus far? my gut tells me that you don't buy the story.
 Quoting: Otsana


Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up.

When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years.

I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long.

Now take a look with crisis actor in mind.
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I think its quite the opposite in reality. altho i do want to add that this seemed fishy to me from the get go. it was to happy and to much about them and that gentleman that found them etc.. weve all seen kampuch and others come out after years (also looking good and being in a good shape obviously if they were there for years... neglect would have had them died)

but they had looks on their faces of being totaly lost. i mean theve been away for 10+ years? you know how much everything changed since then?!

their media attention doesnt match the media attention other victims had gotten.

to be honest i dont even know the name of who did it nore do i have a face for it in my mind. wich i do have for other storys of the past like dutreux or fritzle etc
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Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up.

When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years.

I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long.

Now take a look with crisis actor in mind.
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hmmm. interesting theory.

I guess my hesitancy on that is this: for what end?
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The other thing I can think of is that something else was going on at that time. Anyone remember what it was? It was big and I remember wondering - hmmm, this is an excellent distraction. Anyone remember the big event at the time? Was it Benghazi?
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Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up.

When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years.

I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long.

Now take a look with crisis actor in mind.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


hmmm. interesting theory.

I guess my hesitancy on that is this: for what end?
 Quoting: Otsana


The other thing I can think of is that something else was going on at that time. Anyone remember what it was? It was big and I remember wondering - hmmm, this is an excellent distraction. Anyone remember the big event at the time? Was it Benghazi?
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My guts has me doubting the story. Not sure why. I seen Michelle Knight on Dr. Phil and heard her side of story, I question it. I have a feeling she may have NOT been a "victim" the way she is putting on.
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One end may be the continuing battle to pit humans against each other. Men against women, women against men, races against each other, religions, regions, countries.....

I have not delved into the story even though I do live here. (Cleveland)

I do recall there were news paper articles when the girls went missing, and the man had lived there for a long time.

I don't have a personal opinion on what really happened--but with all the people involved and people who are poor, who knows what they would or would not do for money.
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One end may be the continuing battle to pit humans against each other. Men against women, women against men, races against each other, religions, regions, countries.....

I have not delved into the story even though I do live here. (Cleveland)

I do recall there were news paper articles when the girls went missing, and the man had lived there for a long time.

I don't have a personal opinion on what really happened--but with all the people involved and people who are poor, who knows what they would or would not do for money.
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yes! as I was pondering this more, I do remember what a ruckus that black man caused with his humor.

then it quickly became a race thing.
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Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up.

When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years.

I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long.

Now take a look with crisis actor in mind.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


hmmm. interesting theory.

I guess my hesitancy on that is this: for what end?
 Quoting: Otsana


The other thing I can think of is that something else was going on at that time. Anyone remember what it was? It was big and I remember wondering - hmmm, this is an excellent distraction. Anyone remember the big event at the time? Was it Benghazi?
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I found this Benghazi hearing on May 9, 2013:
[link to oversight.house.gov]

The 'release' of these imprisoned women was on May 6, 2013, and all of the hoopla that followed, such as the very attention-getting black man who was seen all around MSM with his interviews, etc.

So it looks like both of those events did overlap. They were desperate to cover Benghazi, even with that stupid video they tried to use in the beginning to try to cover Benghazi with.

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what do you mean study material?
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Stuff that I notice and that I start thinking about and studying.

Am referring not to the words in the article but the photographs and the photographs from the beginning of their escape.
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Look at the medals they are wearing. Do you know what they really signify? I do: they are really honoring these psyop vicsim actors for doing such a spectacular job in fooling the public in a particularly successful psyop. Usually vicsim actors will also be rewarded with funds dispersed from "victims fund" charities which are really just bonus slush fund accounts. It's like a sick game show with these psycopaths!!!!
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I found this Benghazi hearing on May 9, 2013:
[link to oversight.house.gov]

The 'release' of these imprisoned women was on May 6, 2013, and all of the hoopla that followed, such as the very attention-getting black man who was seen all around MSM with his interviews, etc.

So it looks like both of those events did overlap. They were desperate to cover Benghazi, even with that stupid video they tried to use in the beginning to try to Benghazi with.
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hmmm. you could be on to something then...
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the only reason Cleveland House of Horrors is headlines: it was ALL staged
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OP, I think you have genuine insight on this one. I have not followed the story or seen the interviews, so I can't really comment further, but I hope you will go into more depth as this Thread continues.
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I still find Amanda Berry very hot.
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Thread: Remember that house in Cleveland?

House has been torn down.
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sad part is Charles Ramsey the man that helped rescue them is Broke, Jobless, Homeless. no metal for you...

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They are all dressed in black. Wonder if that means anything?
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what do you mean study material?
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Stuff that I notice and that I start thinking about and studying.
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I guess I meant, what are your suppositions thus far? my gut tells me that you don't buy the story.
 Quoting: Otsana


The only question that I had was "ten years?" Really? Seems rather long to wait for escape...
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Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up.

When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years.

I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long.

Now take a look with crisis actor in mind.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


hmmm. interesting theory.

I guess my hesitancy on that is this: for what end?
 Quoting: Otsana


The other thing I can think of is that something else was going on at that time. Anyone remember what it was? It was big and I remember wondering - hmmm, this is an excellent distraction. Anyone remember the big event at the time? Was it Benghazi?
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


I found this Benghazi hearing on May 9, 2013:
[link to oversight.house.gov]

The 'release' of these imprisoned women was on May 6, 2013, and all of the hoopla that followed, such as the very attention-getting black man who was seen all around MSM with his interviews, etc.

So it looks like both of those events did overlap. They were desperate to cover Benghazi, even with that stupid video they tried to use in the beginning to try to cover Benghazi with.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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For all of you suffering from depression, read that and cheer the fuck up about your lives.
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Sadly for those who have suffered such as these people and they get some positive recognition and mostly what I view on here is a bunch of sad cynics.
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One end may be the continuing battle to pit humans against each other. Men against women, women against men, races against each other, religions, regions, countries.....

I have not delved into the story even though I do live here. (Cleveland)

I do recall there were news paper articles when the girls went missing, and the man had lived there for a long time.

I don't have a personal opinion on what really happened--but with all the people involved and people who are poor, who knows what they would or would not do for money.
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Not only that, they want to destroy your right to have private space, to have property, to have a private domicile. They want you living in communes like college dorms at best, but probably something more like a marine corps boot camp "squad bay". But don't worry, because this will be provided for free by the state (Obama "cribs"?).

Anyway, notice that the psyop creates pretty much an undeniable story. Consider if someone in the neighborhood spoke up, and said something like "hey I lived right next door" or "hey I walked by that house every day" or "hey I delivered papers there" or "hey I worked on the plumbing there three times and I never noticed anything". Or hell even if a bunch of people from the neighborhood spoke up and said that nobody even lived in that house for years--if anybody like that spoke up, then the media would pile on them and push the soundbite "hey it just goes to show you how great these sickos like castro are at deceiving us all! He even fooled the paper boy!!" Even though castro and the women are just actors and nobody was at that house.

That house was probably just abandoned from the housing crisis, and was an asset on some bank ledger. It makes the paperwork easier to fake because no landlord or anyone would have harder evidence as to no guy named castro ever renting or living at that place.

If it was someone that were
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You're adding insult to injury and torture all based on conjecture ... that's messed up ... yet not as messed up as media vultures like uncle Phill making big bucks off of the story, which is the real horror freak show imo. He's Oprah's bitch after all, remember Travis the chimp ... she set new deontological rules for journalism all by herself.

Once reality sinks in with those victims, they'll know the medals and media attention were merely a goverment msm combo charade to make up for unspeakable abuses they suffered.
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Check out the photographs of the ladies and others. Even shortly after they were released after 'years', they were 'study material' to me.
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speaking of study...notice both Amanda and Gina have brow piercings...did they get those after they came out? Did they have them since they were kids? (i think not on that one)...something does seem odd about that. Plus how they were 14, 16 and 21 at the time of kidnapping...How the hell would that old man be capable of overpowering the 21 year old? There seem to be some holes.
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One end may be the continuing battle to pit humans against each other. Men against women, women against men, races against each other, religions, regions, countries.....

I have not delved into the story even though I do live here. (Cleveland)

I do recall there were news paper articles when the girls went missing, and the man had lived there for a long time.

I don't have a personal opinion on what really happened--but with all the people involved and people who are poor, who knows what they would or would not do for money.
 Quoting: stillhere


Not only that, they want to destroy your right to have private space, to have property, to have a private domicile. They want you living in communes like college dorms at best, but probably something more like a marine corps boot camp "squad bay". But don't worry, because this will be provided for free by the state (Obama "cribs"?).

Anyway, notice that the psyop creates pretty much an undeniable story. Consider if someone in the neighborhood spoke up, and said something like "hey I lived right next door" or "hey I walked by that house every day" or "hey I delivered papers there" or "hey I worked on the plumbing there three times and I never noticed anything". Or hell even if a bunch of people from the neighborhood spoke up and said that nobody even lived in that house for years--if anybody like that spoke up, then the media would pile on them and push the soundbite "hey it just goes to show you how great these sickos like castro are at deceiving us all! He even fooled the paper boy!!" Even though castro and the women are just actors and nobody was at that house.

That house was probably just abandoned from the housing crisis, and was an asset on some bank ledger. It makes the paperwork easier to fake because no landlord or anyone would have harder evidence as to no guy named castro ever renting or living at that place.

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