YELLOWSTONE UPDATES (2014) : ... Strange things happening @ Yellowstone... | |
Esoteric Morgan ...in awe of many things User ID: 26943919 United States 04/29/2014 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AND, if I were in charge, I would spare no expense to have a central room with a big-ass screen, or series of them, replicating the map, where all the various sensors from all over appear in real time...with fine-tuned Algorithms monitoring everything as as one complete scenario. Quoting: Esoteric Morgan And this would be Planet-wide, so the response to something happening in Indonesia -or on the Sun- would be immediately known...and monitored closely. Hi E.M. I believe they have and are already doing it. They just won't tell it. It is the only way to do it! Unfortunately, I keep reading this kind of statement in professional and peer-reviewed journals: 'we still don't undertand it'...etc. -- TRUST THE PLAN -- .......WWG1WGA...... ____________________________ still in awe of many things |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55919869 United States 04/29/2014 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look what happened last night at Old Faithful... Quoting: AllThatCanBe [link to uploadshed.com] [link to uploadshed.com] Pickup truck pulled right up to Old Faithful on the boardwalk, followed by what looks to be a Police or Park vehicle. Investigating... More shots here: [link to uploadshed.com] Well, I would hope they are taking samples and such, so it doesn't seem out of place. If this was from last week, I think I might know what was happening there: "Apparently there are dead bison left scattered around the Park from the winter, which have remained out of the view of the cams. They may be coming to collect the carcasses: Then it was off to the Old Faithful area where the boardwalks had been closed due to all the carcasses in the area (none visible on the streaming webcam – and no bears seen on there yet this year). It was a hard winter for the bison that wintered over in the Upper Geyser Basin this year. We had heard they might move some of the carcasses to open up the bike path to humans, but no such luck." [link to www.geyserwatch.com] I'm sorry to say, but I feel that the above sounds really fishy. Yes, roughly 10% of bison die over the winter, and roughly 30% of the younger bison die over the winter but at last count there were over 4000 bison at the park. Since the park is so massive, one of 2 things is going on here. 1) A larger than average number of bison went into the start of winter in bad shape or 2) something else killed a large number of bison. I'm leaning toward number 2, and I feel that it could be related to gases coming up from the ground around the geysers. Either I'm right or I'm wrong, but something seems bad about this. [link to www.nps.gov] |
DarkFounder User ID: 37731890 Czechia 04/29/2014 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the picture "..Old Faithful Geyser is predicted to erupt at 11:11...". Is anyone there seeing 11:11 during the day? [link to yellowstone.net] [link to www.image-share.com] See ya! Also my English could be worse than real SHTF. "The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40812570 United States 04/29/2014 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look what happened last night at Old Faithful... Quoting: AllThatCanBe [link to uploadshed.com] [link to uploadshed.com] Pickup truck pulled right up to Old Faithful on the boardwalk, followed by what looks to be a Police or Park vehicle. Investigating... More shots here: [link to uploadshed.com] WTF... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47956221 South Africa 04/29/2014 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I would hope they are taking samples and such, so it doesn't seem out of place. Quoting: Esoteric Morgan If this was from last week, I think I might know what was happening there: "Apparently there are dead bison left scattered around the Park from the winter, which have remained out of the view of the cams. They may be coming to collect the carcasses: Then it was off to the Old Faithful area where the boardwalks had been closed due to all the carcasses in the area (none visible on the streaming webcam – and no bears seen on there yet this year). It was a hard winter for the bison that wintered over in the Upper Geyser Basin this year. We had heard they might move some of the carcasses to open up the bike path to humans, but no such luck." [link to www.geyserwatch.com] I'm sorry to say, but I feel that the above sounds really fishy. Yes, roughly 10% of bison die over the winter, and roughly 30% of the younger bison die over the winter but at last count there were over 4000 bison at the park. Since the park is so massive, one of 2 things is going on here. 1) A larger than average number of bison went into the start of winter in bad shape or 2) something else killed a large number of bison. I'm leaning toward number 2, and I feel that it could be related to gases coming up from the ground around the geysers. Either I'm right or I'm wrong, but something seems bad about this. [link to www.nps.gov] I found this post at Yellowstone Forums from a visitor who claims that there have been three suspicious deaths of bison at the same spot at different times... [link to forums.yellowstone.net] Excerpt: "Dad and I spent Fri - Sun in the Park. On Friday, we saw a dead cow bison at the top of Blacktail, across from the "Forces of the Northern Range Self-Guiding Trail." It was very close to the road and so we weren't surprised to see the Park Service remove the carcass (too close to the road and at a place where people stopping could create a management issue) - we actually ended up parked watching as the road was temporarily blocked by the pickup into which they loaded it. Okay, so that wasn't strange... winter kill, or so it appeared, with spine, pelvis and rib bones quite apparent. However, two other cows were there at the same location and, by Sunday, they had died as well. On Sunday, we saw Park Service personnel at that location and appearing to investigate one of the carcasses. It does seem a bit odd that three would die at the same location - a location where, at least to the best of my knowledge, there are not gas vents (bison do sometimes die in groups around gas vents). Anyone hear anything?" The other posters on this thread can't accept the possibility that there might be NEW gas vents opening up. The discussion devolves into a flame war about gun control and poaching. Whereas the OP of that post doesn't sound convinced that it was poachers at all. |
Esoteric Morgan ...in awe of many things User ID: 26943919 United States 04/29/2014 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My understanding is that this is not too accepted by many professionals...a bit similar to those naysayers -or well-paid ignorers- in Nuclear Technology, who have been brain-washed into NOT SEEING what's right before their eyes. Think Japan, and depleted uranium, oh, and nuclear waste debacles...as at Hanford. With my little anti-nuclear rant said, I will now apologize to geologists for the 'well-paid' part of that Nuclear analogy. I had to add that, because it has always been part of it. In no way would I infer that EQ/Volcanic scientists are in this mix...although I suspect that here and there there are people placed in State positions to 'over-look' or 'skew' any relation between BAD FACILITIES on fault lines. We are not static in time and space...as the Moon shows us twice a day like clockwork. ----------- Extra-planetary influences are just ONE aspect I hope is being seriously monitored. -- TRUST THE PLAN -- .......WWG1WGA...... ____________________________ still in awe of many things |
Esoteric Morgan ...in awe of many things User ID: 26943919 United States 04/29/2014 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look what happened last night at Old Faithful... Quoting: AllThatCanBe [link to uploadshed.com] [link to uploadshed.com] Pickup truck pulled right up to Old Faithful on the boardwalk, followed by what looks to be a Police or Park vehicle. Investigating... More shots here: [link to uploadshed.com] Well, I would hope they are taking samples and such, so it doesn't seem out of place. If this was from last week, I think I might know what was happening there: "Apparently there are dead bison left scattered around the Park from the winter, which have remained out of the view of the cams. They may be coming to collect the carcasses: Then it was off to the Old Faithful area where the boardwalks had been closed due to all the carcasses in the area (none visible on the streaming webcam – and no bears seen on there yet this year). It was a hard winter for the bison that wintered over in the Upper Geyser Basin this year. We had heard they might move some of the carcasses to open up the bike path to humans, but no such luck." [link to www.geyserwatch.com] I'm sorry to say, but I feel that the above sounds really fishy. Yes, roughly 10% of bison die over the winter, and roughly 30% of the younger bison die over the winter but at last count there were over 4000 bison at the park. Since the park is so massive, one of 2 things is going on here. 1) A larger than average number of bison went into the start of winter in bad shape or 2) something else killed a large number of bison. I'm leaning toward number 2, and I feel that it could be related to gases coming up from the ground around the geysers. Either I'm right or I'm wrong, but something seems bad about this. [link to www.nps.gov] and, possibly grasses and scrub which have grown in poisioned soil? -- TRUST THE PLAN -- .......WWG1WGA...... ____________________________ still in awe of many things |
Esoteric Morgan ...in awe of many things User ID: 26943919 United States 04/29/2014 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the picture "..Old Faithful Geyser is predicted to erupt at 11:11...". Is anyone there seeing 11:11 during the day? Quoting: DarkFounder [link to yellowstone.net] [link to www.image-share.com] -- TRUST THE PLAN -- .......WWG1WGA...... ____________________________ still in awe of many things |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13067975 United States 04/29/2014 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The more I see articles like this, [link to magicvalley.com] The more I think something REALLY IS going to happen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137071 Portugal 04/29/2014 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the picture "..Old Faithful Geyser is predicted to erupt at 11:11...". Is anyone there seeing 11:11 during the day? Quoting: DarkFounder [link to yellowstone.net] [link to www.image-share.com] I'm not sure what you mean by 11:11 Isn't that the time in Wyoming? Or is this a numerology superstition? |
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The Endless Watchers User ID: 54324384 Japan 04/29/2014 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The more I see articles like this, [link to magicvalley.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13067975 The more I think something REALLY IS going to happen. Haha volcanoes may die! Yes, senior dumbass in charge, volcanoes do go dormant. But not when they sit on a MANTLE HOTSPOT. That's heat directly from the mantle of our planet, I sure hope to god that never disappears or we're all completely done for. PNWGeoMan-Geology/Rocktard. "Geologists have their faults." |
Elfsong User ID: 20808994 United States 04/29/2014 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man, I take a break for a few days and come back to WTF! What the heck is going on: Quoting: TrustNoOneKS [link to www.seis.utah.edu] That's just 1 happening right now. The others are weird too for the 27th and 28th. What you see on this shows that the magma is moving. And the pictures that show a truck going up to Ole Faithful, yes, they were taking measurements. Talked to Hubby... in the last 48 hrs, parts of the area has risen 3 inches. Yes, I know that does not sound like much. But think about how much magma has to rise to make the land move up. And no, they do not want the public to know. working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes. |
The Endless Watchers User ID: 54324384 Japan 04/29/2014 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man, I take a break for a few days and come back to WTF! What the heck is going on: Quoting: TrustNoOneKS [link to www.seis.utah.edu] That's just 1 happening right now. The others are weird too for the 27th and 28th. What you see on this shows that the magma is moving. And the pictures that show a truck going up to Ole Faithful, yes, they were taking measurements. Talked to Hubby... in the last 48 hrs, parts of the area has risen 3 inches. Yes, I know that does not sound like much. But think about how much magma has to rise to make the land move up. And no, they do not want the public to know. Indeed 3 inches of uplift is not a good sign. 48 hours for 3 inches of uplift is MOST certainly not a good sign at all. In fact, that would make me assume that either a new dike or sill has formed from the chamber itself or there has been an intrusion of magma trying to push upwards to release the pressure. Last Edited by PNWGeoMan on 04/29/2014 01:49 PM PNWGeoMan-Geology/Rocktard. "Geologists have their faults." |
AllThatCanBe User ID: 47956221 South Africa 04/29/2014 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for the update Elfsong. Everyone might want to watch the cam right now. It's shaking viciously over and above the wind motion and the seismo agrees, however slight the tremors are: [link to www.isthisthingon.org] Oh and cam link for anyone new who doesn't have it bookmarked yet: [link to www.nps.gov] Last Edited by AllThatCanBe on 04/29/2014 02:00 PM |
CaylinSoo User ID: 36211197 United States 04/29/2014 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man, I take a break for a few days and come back to WTF! What the heck is going on: Quoting: TrustNoOneKS [link to www.seis.utah.edu] That's just 1 happening right now. The others are weird too for the 27th and 28th. What you see on this shows that the magma is moving. And the pictures that show a truck going up to Ole Faithful, yes, they were taking measurements. Talked to Hubby... in the last 48 hrs, parts of the area has risen 3 inches. Yes, I know that does not sound like much. But think about how much magma has to rise to make the land move up. And no, they do not want the public to know. Elfsong, 3 inches in 48 hours? That's huge! No wonder the helicorders are so colorful. The pressure underground must be amazing. Thank you for the information. |
mooo User ID: 37770431 Canada 04/29/2014 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man, I take a break for a few days and come back to WTF! What the heck is going on: Quoting: TrustNoOneKS [link to www.seis.utah.edu] That's just 1 happening right now. The others are weird too for the 27th and 28th. What you see on this shows that the magma is moving. And the pictures that show a truck going up to Ole Faithful, yes, they were taking measurements. Talked to Hubby... in the last 48 hrs, parts of the area has risen 3 inches. Yes, I know that does not sound like much. But think about how much magma has to rise to make the land move up. And no, they do not want the public to know. Thank you for the update Elfsong :) |
Elfsong User ID: 20808994 United States 04/29/2014 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look what happened last night at Old Faithful... Quoting: AllThatCanBe [link to uploadshed.com] [link to uploadshed.com] Pickup truck pulled right up to Old Faithful on the boardwalk, followed by what looks to be a Police or Park vehicle. Investigating... More shots here: [link to uploadshed.com] Well, I would hope they are taking samples and such, so it doesn't seem out of place. If this was from last week, I think I might know what was happening there: "Apparently there are dead bison left scattered around the Park from the winter, which have remained out of the view of the cams. They may be coming to collect the carcasses: Then it was off to the Old Faithful area where the boardwalks had been closed due to all the carcasses in the area (none visible on the streaming webcam – and no bears seen on there yet this year). It was a hard winter for the bison that wintered over in the Upper Geyser Basin this year. We had heard they might move some of the carcasses to open up the bike path to humans, but no such luck." [link to www.geyserwatch.com] Of the information concerning the dead Bison, I do not have any access to that area. However, should the ground be releasing gas from the pressure underneath, it could be anything from sulfur to any other toxic gasses. Remember, quite a few Bison were seen leaving the area over a month ago. Along with some of the Elk. Maybe these were a few that did not know where to go or how to leave the area. working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes. |
Elfsong User ID: 20808994 United States 04/29/2014 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look what happened last night at Old Faithful... Quoting: AllThatCanBe [link to uploadshed.com] [link to uploadshed.com] Pickup truck pulled right up to Old Faithful on the boardwalk, followed by what looks to be a Police or Park vehicle. Investigating... More shots here: [link to uploadshed.com] On a joking side, I am hoping that they were out there to "Burp the Baby" so that he will go back to sleep for another couple of hundred of years. Anyone else hope they were doing that? working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes. |
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Esoteric Morgan ...in awe of many things User ID: 26943919 United States 04/29/2014 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I would hope they are taking samples and such, so it doesn't seem out of place. Quoting: Esoteric Morgan If this was from last week, I think I might know what was happening there: "Apparently there are dead bison left scattered around the Park from the winter, which have remained out of the view of the cams. They may be coming to collect the carcasses: Then it was off to the Old Faithful area where the boardwalks had been closed due to all the carcasses in the area (none visible on the streaming webcam – and no bears seen on there yet this year). It was a hard winter for the bison that wintered over in the Upper Geyser Basin this year. We had heard they might move some of the carcasses to open up the bike path to humans, but no such luck." [link to www.geyserwatch.com] I'm sorry to say, but I feel that the above sounds really fishy. Yes, roughly 10% of bison die over the winter, and roughly 30% of the younger bison die over the winter but at last count there were over 4000 bison at the park. Since the park is so massive, one of 2 things is going on here. 1) A larger than average number of bison went into the start of winter in bad shape or 2) something else killed a large number of bison. I'm leaning toward number 2, and I feel that it could be related to gases coming up from the ground around the geysers. Either I'm right or I'm wrong, but something seems bad about this. [link to www.nps.gov] I found this post at Yellowstone Forums from a visitor who claims that there have been three suspicious deaths of bison at the same spot at different times... [link to forums.yellowstone.net] Excerpt: "Dad and I spent Fri - Sun in the Park. On Friday, we saw a dead cow bison at the top of Blacktail, across from the "Forces of the Northern Range Self-Guiding Trail." It was very close to the road and so we weren't surprised to see the Park Service remove the carcass (too close to the road and at a place where people stopping could create a management issue) - we actually ended up parked watching as the road was temporarily blocked by the pickup into which they loaded it. Okay, so that wasn't strange... winter kill, or so it appeared, with spine, pelvis and rib bones quite apparent. However, two other cows were there at the same location and, by Sunday, they had died as well. On Sunday, we saw Park Service personnel at that location and appearing to investigate one of the carcasses. It does seem a bit odd that three would die at the same location - a location where, at least to the best of my knowledge, there are not gas vents (bison do sometimes die in groups around gas vents). Anyone hear anything?" The other posters on this thread can't accept the possibility that there might be NEW gas vents opening up. The discussion devolves into a flame war about gun control and poaching. Whereas the OP of that post doesn't sound convinced that it was poachers at all. Wow! I don't doubt this. Remember when you (?) first posted pictures of the bison grazing at Electric Peak? [link to www.nps.gov] Anytime I go to that cam since, I fail to see any creature grazing. (EDIT AFTER POST: Ha! just looked again, and there they are, trying to make a liar out of me! Well, It's good to see them...I hope) If gases are permeating up to and through the frost line, the plants which serve as food are being poisoned as their roots absorb the gases. When I first followed the events at the Bayou Corne Sinkhole, I expected those trees to already be browned or dying from all of the breeched sulfur mines...yet, they linger on. This is when I discovered that it is used as a preservative on fruits and vegetables. A plant pathologist should start taking samples of plant roots, to see what is actually being absorbed, instead of checking the soil, should small amounts be released into the air, and possibly go undetected. At least, rule this out. I would not bank on point of death soils to be the point of any poisoning. Sulfur Dioxide " “Serious” effects are those that evoke failure in a biological system and can lead to morbidity or mortality (e.g., acute respiratory distress or death). “Less serious” effects are those that are not expected to cause significant dysfunction or death, or those whose significance to the organism is not entirely clear." [link to www.atsdr.cdc.gov] [link to www.kumed.com] [link to pmep.cce.cornell.edu] _________________ Of course, Sulfur Dioxide is not the only gas which could be an actor here, should such a thing be evolving at all. Last Edited by esotericMorgan on 04/29/2014 03:15 PM -- TRUST THE PLAN -- .......WWG1WGA...... ____________________________ still in awe of many things |
TrustNoOneKS User ID: 4422502 United States 04/29/2014 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man, I take a break for a few days and come back to WTF! What the heck is going on: Quoting: TrustNoOneKS [link to www.seis.utah.edu] That's just 1 happening right now. The others are weird too for the 27th and 28th. What you see on this shows that the magma is moving. And the pictures that show a truck going up to Ole Faithful, yes, they were taking measurements. Talked to Hubby... in the last 48 hrs, parts of the area has risen 3 inches. Yes, I know that does not sound like much. But think about how much magma has to rise to make the land move up. And no, they do not want the public to know. Yikes! That can't be good! I Want To Believe |
Esoteric Morgan ...in awe of many things User ID: 26943919 United States 04/29/2014 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man, I take a break for a few days and come back to WTF! What the heck is going on: Quoting: TrustNoOneKS [link to www.seis.utah.edu] That's just 1 happening right now. The others are weird too for the 27th and 28th. What you see on this shows that the magma is moving. And the pictures that show a truck going up to Ole Faithful, yes, they were taking measurements. Talked to Hubby... in the last 48 hrs, parts of the area has risen 3 inches. Yes, I know that does not sound like much. But think about how much magma has to rise to make the land move up. And no, they do not want the public to know. Thanks for the info. I still think that the area were the cam is mounted is breathing heavily at times, often rising and holding before coming back down. That cam was jerking yesterday, in stepped fashion at least once while I watched. Today I have been busy looking on the web, so I've not had the chance to catch up since early this morning. Someone posted that today has been active. Can anyone fill me in? -- TRUST THE PLAN -- .......WWG1WGA...... ____________________________ still in awe of many things |
Esoteric Morgan ...in awe of many things User ID: 26943919 United States 04/29/2014 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Borehole right now: dipping or something? [link to www.isthisthingon.org] -- TRUST THE PLAN -- .......WWG1WGA...... ____________________________ still in awe of many things |