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Halal meat scandal widens

 
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Supermarkets and restaurant chains are selling halal meat to millions of customers without telling them.

The switch to slaughtering animals in line with Islamic ritual saves money because the end product can be eaten by Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

More than 70 per cent of all New Zealand lamb in supermarkets is from halal abattoirs – a fact not stated on labelling. Tesco, Sainsbury's, Morrisons, Waitrose and Marks & Spencer all confirmed yesterday they sell the imported meat.

It also emerged that all chicken served by Pizza Express is halal – something made clear only on the company's website.

Chains including Domino's, GBK, Nando's, KFC, Ask and Slug & Lettuce use halal meat in some dishes, mainly chicken, and locations.

When contacted by the Mail yesterday, many of the restaurants were reluctant to discuss the issue. Only Subway and KFC overtly label halal meat products on their menus.
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05/08/2014 03:19 AM
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5 stars
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It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours.
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Look, EVERYTHING is 'market driven'.

Get that into your skulls and you'll understand all sorts of Arbitrary Measures.

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I don't have a problem with eating Halal meat particularly. They should probably have to label it though.
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Look, EVERYTHING is 'market driven'.

Get that into your skulls and you'll understand all sorts of Arbitrary Measures.

:)
 Quoting: Do Right By 57834600


what does that mean? the way animals where slaughtered in places like the UK was driven by the public... to imply a minority should change the principles the majority feel are right is ludicrous and is going to cause major issues.

Market driven would mean labelling products properly so people can make an informed choice and if they choose not buy a certain product then that will drive change in the market it is not arbitrary, other-wise it is sneaky and deceitful, akin to labelling horse as beef or putting wood chips in strawberry jam..
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Look, EVERYTHING is 'market driven'.

Get that into your skulls and you'll understand all sorts of Arbitrary Measures.

:)
 Quoting: Do Right By 57834600


what does that mean? the way animals where slaughtered in places like the UK was driven by the public... to imply a minority should change the principles the majority feel are right is ludicrous and is going to cause major issues.

Market driven would mean labelling products properly so people can make an informed choice and if they choose not buy a certain product then that will drive change in the market it is not arbitrary, other-wise it is sneaky and deceitful, akin to labelling horse as beef or putting wood chips in strawberry jam..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57390700


Nope, it's neither sneaky nor deceitful, the Corporations are JUST COVERING THEIR OWN BACKs, why? To maximise PROFIT, because 'that's all that matters' these days.

You have off-shore slaughterhouses providing Halal i.e. live throat-cut, meat to industry = larger Market for that meat.

:)
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I don't have a problem with eating Halal meat particularly. They should probably have to label it though.
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I agree with the labelling, if it is Halal I will not on principle buy it, I do not know anyone who would, simply because most of those I know disagree with that method of slaughter, and I dislike the feeling of being deceived as much in this as in those who, ahem, miss-labelled horse meat as beef.
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They were discussing this on the paper review on Sky News this morning. They all laughed about it and put it down to Daily Mail hatemongering. The country's just been totally brainwashed by the PC culture. It's a lost cause. Wait until there are more muslim MPs than non-muslims and they change all the laws to suit them. Idiots.
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I also don't understand the discrimination, MEAT is MEAT (whether it's a domesticated animal or not) even if it's label'd "dog" or "cat" or "snake".

You eat meat you're eating the products of CORPORATE ASSASSINATION.

:)
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Wow.

People are dumb as hell.

If meat is kosher/halal, it just means that the animal is killed in a certain way for a quick death and proper drainage.

And yes, kosher = halal.

Its my understanding, Moslems can eat kosher meat.
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Wow.

People are dumb as hell.

If meat is kosher/halal, it just means that the animal is killed in a certain way for a quick death and proper drainage.

And yes, kosher = halal.

Its my understanding, Moslems can eat kosher meat.
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But muslims have a CHOICE to eat kosher meat. Non-muslims shouldn't have muslims ways imposed on them without their knowledge!!!
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Wow.

People are dumb as hell.

If meat is kosher/halal, it just means that the animal is killed in a certain way for a quick death and proper drainage.

And yes, kosher = halal.

Its my understanding, Moslems can eat kosher meat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57837341


But muslims have a CHOICE to eat kosher meat. Non-muslims shouldn't have muslims ways imposed on them without their knowledge!!!
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If only it were rancid.
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Look, EVERYTHING is 'market driven'.

Get that into your skulls and you'll understand all sorts of Arbitrary Measures.

:)
 Quoting: Do Right By 57834600


what does that mean? the way animals where slaughtered in places like the UK was driven by the public... to imply a minority should change the principles the majority feel are right is ludicrous and is going to cause major issues.

Market driven would mean labelling products properly so people can make an informed choice and if they choose not buy a certain product then that will drive change in the market it is not arbitrary, other-wise it is sneaky and deceitful, akin to labelling horse as beef or putting wood chips in strawberry jam..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57390700


Nope, it's neither sneaky nor deceitful, the Corporations are JUST COVERING THEIR OWN BACKs, why? To maximise PROFIT, because 'that's all that matters' these days.

You have off-shore slaughterhouses providing Halal i.e. live throat-cut, meat to industry = larger Market for that meat.

:)
 Quoting: FP 57834600


It is both a sneaky and deceitful way to maximise profits, they know the response they would get for not properly labelling their products.
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How does one kill 10,000 chickens a day in a halal style?
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I'm sure it's delicious and perfectly fine to eat but I wouldn't eat it on principle.

All those places can consider themselves boycotted.

Why would you eat New Zealand lamb anyway, imported half way around the world, when British lamb is just as good.
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Supermarkets and restaurant chains are selling halal meat to millions of customers without telling them.

The switch to slaughtering animals in line with Islamic ritual saves money because the end product can be eaten by Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

More than 70 per cent of all New Zealand lamb in supermarkets is from halal abattoirs – a fact not stated on labelling. Tesco, Sainsbury's, Morrisons, Waitrose and Marks & Spencer all confirmed yesterday they sell the imported meat.

It also emerged that all chicken served by Pizza Express is halal – something made clear only on the company's website.

Chains including Domino's, GBK, Nando's, KFC, Ask and Slug & Lettuce use halal meat in some dishes, mainly chicken, and locations.

When contacted by the Mail yesterday, many of the restaurants were reluctant to discuss the issue. Only Subway and KFC overtly label halal meat products on their menus.
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This is a bad thing?
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Wow.

People are dumb as hell.

If meat is kosher/halal, it just means that the animal is killed in a certain way for a quick death and proper drainage.

And yes, kosher = halal.

Its my understanding, Moslems can eat kosher meat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57837341


Can they eat kosher bacon?
:)
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Why would you eat New Zealand lamb anyway, imported half way around the world, when British lamb is just as good.
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That's a bigger issue to me than how the animal is killed.
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Wow.

People are dumb as hell.

If meat is kosher/halal, it just means that the animal is killed in a certain way for a quick death and proper drainage.

And yes, kosher = halal.

Its my understanding, Moslems can eat kosher meat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57837341


Actually what they do for "Halal" meat is that take a large knife and basically slit the animals throat all the way to the spine and let it bleed out while it is still conscious.
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I would not buy Halal meat if it stated it on the label on principle as it's a Religious act based on a load of shit I will never ever believe in.
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How does one kill 10,000 chickens a day in a halal style?
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I really need an answer to this, cos i can't see it being possible to supply a KFC chain this way.

Also i stopped buying KFC many year ago after complaining about bruised chickens, if you notice you will always find bruised meat in your KFC, because they're being kicked and abused in their transport, has no one seen this trade in practice, 4 lads in wellies in a huge dark factory/ barn and the floor seethes with chickens living on top of each other, they each have a crate, and the truck needs 1000 crates, they're grabbed 2 and three at a time and slammed in to the crate often being trapped/ stood on etc in the process, there is no time to pay regard if they want paying their pittance. The chickens are then shipped to the slaughter house where they are strung up by their feet LIVE, and sent through a machine with whirling blades that takes the head off.

So how is HALAL any different to the above where economic forces are in charge of animal welfare??

Do the chickens march up a ramp into the trucks lulled by soft music and heavenly scent? to be met by a smiling man who utters the name of god before slicing their jugular softly?....next!

REALLY?
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Investigative researchers in France, Canada and the USA have found links between halal certifying organisations and shop fronts for terrorist groups like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. Similar research in Australia is yet to be undertaken.

Grand Mufti Dr Mustafa Ceric has suggested at an international conference in 2010, that Islam can conquer the world through the Halal (certification) movement.

[link to 1389blog.com]
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05/08/2014 04:40 AM
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I would not buy Halal meat if it stated it on the label on principle as it's a Religious act based on a load of shit I will never ever believe in.
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^^^^ THIS ^^^^

BIG load of shit too, I might add.

HUGE
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How does one kill 10,000 chickens a day in a halal style?
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I really need an answer to this, cos i can't see it being possible to supply a KFC chain this way.

Also i stopped buying KFC many year ago after complaining about bruised chickens, if you notice you will always find bruised meat in your KFC, because they're being kicked and abused in their transport, has no one seen this trade in practice, 4 lads in wellies in a huge dark factory/ barn and the floor seethes with chickens living on top of each other, they each have a crate, and the truck needs 1000 crates, they're grabbed 2 and three at a time and slammed in to the crate often being trapped/ stood on etc in the process, there is no time to pay regard if they want paying their pittance. The chickens are then shipped to the slaughter house where they are strung up by their feet LIVE, and sent through a machine with whirling blades that takes the head off.

So how is HALAL any different to the above where economic forces are in charge of animal welfare??

Do the chickens march up a ramp into the trucks lulled by soft music and heavenly scent? to be met by a smiling man who utters the name of god before slicing their jugular softly?....next!

REALLY?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57217624


+1
:)
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Investigative researchers in France, Canada and the USA have found links between halal certifying organisations and shop fronts for terrorist groups like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. Similar research in Australia is yet to be undertaken.

Grand Mufti Dr Mustafa Ceric has suggested at an international conference in 2010, that Islam can conquer the world through the Halal (certification) movement.

[link to 1389blog.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10621303


A lot of bars in Boston and the rest of Irish America supported the IRA.
:)
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I couldn't give a damn

They can take sharia law and shove it up their ass
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I couldn't give a damn

They can take sharia law and shove it up their ass
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i dont like eat any meat that is not grown and killed by myself.

so what
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Who cares it's still meat, and anyone with common sense buy's there meat from the local butchers shops, the ones where I live only stock meat from local farms. If you ask the butcher can tell you everything about the bit of meat you are buying, even which farm it came from.
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I don't belong to any religion. ..but I prefer halal meat for the simple reason that it is better handled. The blood is drained...ect.
It's much cleaner, healthier and tastier without all that blood.
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id also be more concerned on what the animal has been fed on than who kills it and what they say when they are killing it.





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