Do NOT buy a computer with windows 8.1. Absolute shittiest operating system ever created, hands down.

Useless garbage for any business.
They will not spend the time and money retraining people and retooling everything just because Microsoft says jump.
More importantly....it's a complete paradigm shift in how the O/S works....a paradigm that WORKS EXTREMELY WELL and has been in place since 1994.

You know nothing about how business works.

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Are you fucking kidding me? That is the dumbest and most retarded statement I've ever read.

98 for instance was FAMOUS for it's blue screen of death. Hell, it even crashes on live TV on a launching demo before it even hit the market.

What, Einstein? Can't find Solitaire?

Amazing how CLUELESS people like you are as to how the business world works.

Yeah...it's all about solitaire.
Go back to your moms basement.

I bought a laptop with win 8, i HATE it! I installed classic shell, improved it a little.

The worst part for me is that if you "swipe" the touchpad the wrong way, your screen changes. I do it accidently all the time, it's a nightmare to use.....so frustrating. I wanted a computer, not an ipad.

I wish that "swipe" thing could be removed completwly. For me, this is the biggest problem.

It can.

Buy a copy of Windows 7 and install it.

i've been doing this for a while. got to try 8 last year when my sis bought pc for her kids. my first experience with 8 was being unable to close the start menu. 5 sec later i cant get to "my computer." within 1 minute i had decided that 8 is total crap. not going to change my mind. i don't need more shit cluttering my drives.

it is a mistake to install any version of windows before a service pack anyway, stupid.

Yes, keeping windows 7 and linux.

If I'd wanted a tablet, I'd have bought a tablet. Windows 8 is truly hideous.

Well.... all i can say is THANK FUCk I use Linux now.. Kubuntu 14.04LTS works right out the box. Been a few weeks since I installed and have came across 0 bugs!!! My C2D machine loves 14.04. And so will yours! Grab a copy right now for free! [link to www.kubuntu.org]

You can toggle between the APE (app) screen and the desktop screen (interface) by pushing
command + x

you can push the command button alone to bring up
the app interface

you can gain access to your files this way too. cmd+x

takes a lil getting used to.
they are obviously preparing us to use apps in
every way possible.


Translation: It's an utter piece of shit.

The "Micro Center" chain of computer superstores still has a LOT of Windows 7 machines available, probably because most of their market is businesses and not consumers. Businesses, particularly mid size and large businesses, do NOT want Windows 8 machines in their work environment.

They have a number of NICE machines with the latest processors etc., but don't expect them to be as cheap as the cheapies at Best Buy etc., since they are better and more powerful machines overall.

Unfortunately that chain only has 25 stores, basically in the 15 biggest tech center locations in the US, but they also do a mail order business (I buy from one of their stores and have bought virtually all my computer equipment from them for over 25 years - can't tell you about mail order with them though).

Went from xp to 8.1 and I love it.... but i also have a touchscreen laptop makes a world of difference.

Runs great for me, it does take a min to get used to, but once you are youll love it.

"Download Windows 7 the 100% Legal Way

There are actually two ways to download Windows 7 legally but they each have a caveat that you're probably not going to like.

Your first option is a free download of Windows 7 Enterprise. Unfortunately, it's only a 90-day trial after which time your computer will shut down every hour. This Windows 7 download is intended for testing by software and hardware developers and isn't a good long-term solution.

Your second option is to download Windows 7 for "free" as part of your paid MSDN Subscription. This professional subscription by Microsoft grants you access to Windows 7 downloads and product keys, as well as downloads and keys for most of the software Microsoft produces. Unless you're a software programmer or IT professional, this very expensive subscription program is almost certainly not worth the money.

Note: Prior to late 2012, Windows 7 was available for individuals to purchase and download directly from the Microsoft Store. While this is still an option for Windows 8, it is, unfortunately, no longer possible for Windows 7.

Of course if downloading Windows 7 isn't necessary in your situation, your other option is to purchase a copy of Window 7 on DVD. Microsoft no longer sells Windows 7 directly, but you might still find copies of Windows 7 available from TigerDirect, NewEgg, or other retailers as well, so shopping around for the best price is a good idea.

That's it. So yes, all reasonable legal options require paying, either for a DVD in a retail package, or for a download via a professional subscription, in ISO format, for burning to a disc or transfer to a USB device.

Note: If you have a Windows 7 disc, and are only trying to download Windows 7 because you need to install it on your computer which does not have an optical drive, there is a way to get the installation files from your DVD onto a flash drive. See How To Install Windows 7 From USB for instructions."

[link to pcsupport.about.com]

I have Windows 8.1 and i love it, as in most instances with new software you have to look at the changes it has done and it does give you this in Windows 8.1, unfortunately most people don't take the time to learn a new system and therefore brand it as bad.

To make a long story short...it's not the software its the user.

And GM has decided that the traditional accelerator and brake on the floor just clutter things up, so they are moving those functions to a redesigned steering wheel that is about the size and shape of an airplane pilot's yoke.

By moving those items off the floor and to one's hands area, which is already handling the steering, they feel that people will be faster and more effective with accelerating and stopping. They will have MORE CONTROL! On top of that disabled people will find it easier to drive cars!!

GM plans to make this change MANDATORY and ALL cars built after 1/1/15 will incorporate this improvement. NO EXCEPTIONS. They feel this will make Driving FUN again ... and besides who wants to use "inefficient" technology that was invented and first sold 110 years ago (floor mounted accelerator and floor mounted brake pedal)? GM will make all the other car companies look like buggy whip manufactures at best with their OLD technology when they make this change to how people SHOULD drive.

SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER TO ME!! Just like Windows 8!!

OH ... and while we are at it can we get a redesigned light switch. Talk about OLD technology! Thomas Edison invented that thingamajig nearly 130 years ago ... Time for some NEW TECHNOLOGY in the everyday Light Switch arena! Who wants "OLD" technology? OLD technology is soooo boring.

Re the last statement in bold - TOO TRUE. Yes, we all complain; but, really, how hard is it to take the time and set things up the way you want? I'm a senior and didn't grow up with this stuff like a lot of you did. I've been through WinME, XP, Win7, and now Win8. I turned my Win8 computer on and then sat there in tears for a minute or so until I figured it out. Then I looked for the programs I use every day and pinned them to my taskbar (I hate a cluttered-up desktop). It didn't take all that long and was actually kind of fun. Now it's set up the way I want.

I do believe a lot of the whining on here is because when we get a new computer/OS things are not set up the way we had them before and we have to spend a few minutes or hours moving things around to the way we like to have them. How awful.

I also use keyboard strokes a lot of the time. This is from my old DOS days before Windows (gosh, that takes me back). It's a good idea to learn the keystrokes in case your mouse fails and you're stuck not knowing how to do things. A lot of times it's faster as well.

I love the Internet! Too bad you young whippersnappers don't appreciate how wonderful all this is. Going from manual typewriters and photocopiers that didn't collate to swiping a mobile screen is simply amazing. Stop complaining!

Hence why I switch to Mac at home. Changes are gradual as opposed to "THROW EVERYTHING AT THEM AT ONCE!" like Microsoft likes to do.

I've tried to use Windows 8 on a friend's computer and it was just retarded. I know how to use computers as I've been using them since I was a kid but when you've been using Windows your whole life and they change everything about it so you have to learn how to basically use a new OS it's really not worth it.
Windows 7 worked perfectly and there was no reason to change it.
I won't be "upgrading" to 8 ever.

Windows 3.1 - Good

Windows 95 - Bad

Windows 98 - Good

Windows ME - Bad

Windows XP - Good

Windows Vista - Bad

Windows 7 - Good

Windows 8.... Come on. If you bought this, you haven't been paying enough attention.

Works fine here, are you sure you're doing it right?

P.S. Classic shell is your friend if you don't like 8/8.1

Thanks guys, this is one of the funniest threads I've read on GLP.

The rigmarol described earlier to just copy a file, Jesus.
It's obviously too hard to just imagine the user experience and have touch once for context with actions and a second time to open.

The writing was on the wall when they introduced that new version of Office with ribbons and shit, so they flushed down the toilet about 10+ years of UI consistency that allowed people to just get stuff done as second nature with keyboard combos etc., so that the world could lose THOUSANDS of MAN-HOURS re-learning how to do something that was previously trivial and took 2 seconds.

Software companies like MS have long since lost the notion that most serious/busy users don't give a fuck what it looks like as long as it gets stuff the fuck done in the click of the fingers - the computing power is there to do that, but it's being used to carry the load of toy-town UI.

To answer the question of why it's called the Charms bar; it's got to the point where the only way Microsoft can have something work like a charm is if they hijack the fucking word.

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Dont know what Windows 3.1 is but it sounds old school as fuck

Yes MicroCenter is great

if you have a puter with windows 7 can you put windows xp pro on it in stead? i hate windows 7!

true...

i was working with computers since i was 10, i did programming for 10 years for IBM. windows 8 is a complete failure, so was 7 and vista, i guess after the Amiga and Atari went broke Apple and Microsoft has nowhere to steal from anymore

XP for ever

Windows 3.1 was a complete rip off of Amiga OS and it sucked bigtime compared to this

but before that it was only DOS.

The IBM PC's killed the personal computer.

What is really sad about win 8, why in the fuk do we even need to download something that should be integrated in the OS.