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I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?

 
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I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Did I miss something or weren't they going to release names last week?
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
greenwald made an announcement that he was going to release names, but by not saying exactly when he would release those names he implied that there would be another press conference where he would release the date by which he would release the date on which he would release the names.

it's a long process in this day and age of near instantaneous world-wide communications to release a list of names. it would be different is it was a "mass-shooter's" manifesto, though. that'll be released immediately.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
greenwald made an announcement that he was going to release names, but by not saying exactly when he would release those names he implied that there would be another press conference where he would release the date by which he would release the date on which he would release the names.

it's a long process in this day and age of near instantaneous world-wide communications to release a list of names. it would be different is it was a "mass-shooter's" manifesto, though. that'll be released immediately.
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The longer they wait, the more likely it's BS. They should've just BAM released it. They wouldn't have known where it came from.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Greenwald is more cautious about ramifications than Snowden would be I think. Snowden has no control now over what Glenn Greenwald releases and when. I imagine that's a bit frustrating for him.
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they aint gonna do shit as usual.

just tell us what we already know with amazing revelation while we all applaud .
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Maybe something is going on "behind the scenes" that we don't know about.
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limited hangout

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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Maybe something is going on "behind the scenes" that we don't know about.
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Snowden is CIA

nothing he's released is "groundbreaking"

it's just to get people living in a state of fear... Big Brother IS watching. live in fear. behave. we surveil everything.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Maybe something is going on "behind the scenes" that we don't know about.
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Snowden is CIA

nothing he's released is "groundbreaking"

it's just to get people living in a state of fear... Big Brother IS watching. live in fear. behave. we surveil everything.
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Maybe it's not groundbreaking to you but it certainly is to me. And if you don't care about constant surveillance and how it can be used against you, you're very naive.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Maybe something is going on "behind the scenes" that we don't know about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47013645


Snowden is CIA

nothing he's released is "groundbreaking"

it's just to get people living in a state of fear... Big Brother IS watching. live in fear. behave. we surveil everything.
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


Maybe it's not groundbreaking to you but it certainly is to me. And if you don't care about constant surveillance and how it can be used against you, you're very naive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58691639


interpolating your own thoughts here?

1. yes I care, never said I don't. you assumed that.

2. people have been talking about constant surveillance as a theory long before Snowden confirmed anything. Are you new to conspiracy research? it seems like you're new because this isn't "groundbreaking" stuff... basically just confirmation of what most theorists already assumed.

thanks for your post
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Maybe something is going on "behind the scenes" that we don't know about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47013645


Snowden is CIA

nothing he's released is "groundbreaking"

it's just to get people living in a state of fear... Big Brother IS watching. live in fear. behave. we surveil everything.
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


Maybe it's not groundbreaking to you but it certainly is to me. And if you don't care about constant surveillance and how it can be used against you, you're very naive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58691639


BTW the reason I don't find this groundbreaking is because it's happened before... so much so that "Mass Surveillance" has it's own wiki article.

history may not repeat but it does rhyme

the Soviet Union comes to mind.

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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
greenwald made an announcement that he was going to release names, but by not saying exactly when he would release those names he implied that there would be another press conference where he would release the date by which he would release the date on which he would release the names.

it's a long process in this day and age of near instantaneous world-wide communications to release a list of names. it would be different is it was a "mass-shooter's" manifesto, though. that'll be released immediately.
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The longer they wait, the more likely it's BS. They should've just BAM released it. They wouldn't have known where it came from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56019491


I agree... If I knew something that would make some good changes in this world, I would tell it to the world IMEDIATLY! Why the waiting?! What do they earn with that?!
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
greenwald made an announcement that he was going to release names, but by not saying exactly when he would release those names he implied that there would be another press conference where he would release the date by which he would release the date on which he would release the names.

it's a long process in this day and age of near instantaneous world-wide communications to release a list of names. it would be different is it was a "mass-shooter's" manifesto, though. that'll be released immediately.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Maybe something is going on "behind the scenes" that we don't know about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47013645


Snowden is CIA

nothing he's released is "groundbreaking"

it's just to get people living in a state of fear... Big Brother IS watching. live in fear. behave. we surveil everything.
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


I completely agree
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Greenwald said he would release some names to give an example not all of them.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Maybe something is going on "behind the scenes" that we don't know about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47013645


Snowden is CIA

nothing he's released is "groundbreaking"

it's just to get people living in a state of fear... Big Brother IS watching. live in fear. behave. we surveil everything.
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


Maybe it's not groundbreaking to you but it certainly is to me. And if you don't care about constant surveillance and how it can be used against you, you're very naive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58691639


interpolating your own thoughts here?

1. yes I care, never said I don't. you assumed that.

2. people have been talking about constant surveillance as a theory long before Snowden confirmed anything. Are you new to conspiracy research? it seems like you're new because this isn't "groundbreaking" stuff... basically just confirmation of what most theorists already assumed.

thanks for your post
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


It was speculative as in 'are we in 1984 yet' but not concrete details about NSA forcing Google, Yahoo, etc to furnish all of our data. Snowden's leaks made it concrete. It matched our speculation and fears but before that we did not KNOW it was happening. Even Congress has said they did not know it was happening. NSA lied to the oversight committees constantly.
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limited hangout

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BOOM....TRUTH!!!
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Did I miss something or weren't they going to release names last week?
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Greenwald is probably holding out for more money.

Peddling his pilfered documents to retire in style.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Did I miss something or weren't they going to release names last week?
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I confidently guarantee that "Snowjob" and his gay buddy will NEVAH release anything of any significance whatsoEVAH!
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Did I miss something or weren't they going to release names last week?
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I confidently guarantee that "Snowjob" and his gay buddy will NEVAH release anything of any significance whatsoEVAH!
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This reminds me too much of WikiLeaks. They were going to destroy the Government.

We all see how that turned out. Soon there will be a movie made about this whole dumbass thing.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Did I miss something or weren't they going to release names last week?
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I confidently guarantee that "Snowjob" and his gay buddy will NEVAH release anything of any significance whatsoEVAH!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10512917


This reminds me too much of WikiLeaks. They were going to destroy the Government.

We all see how that turned out. Soon there will be a movie made about this whole dumbass thing.
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I will be proved wrong if "Snowjob" releases the truth about 911, and Israel's involvement.

I'm not holding my breath.
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Anyone that had serious intentions of releasing anything would have released the entire thing on the net in multiple locations simultaneously.

These guys are obviously shills and distractions.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Greenwald, during an interview in May, said they are still compiling names, and getting all the info together.

At that time he said it should take 4 to 8 weeks, before It was ready to be released. That should put it in a June-July timeframe.

Shepard Smith announced the "end of the week". I Don't know where he got that info from.

Greenwald also said it's not a list of everybody that the NSA has gathered data on. That would be just about everybody in the US.

It is a list of people, who are being specifically "targeted", by the NSA, for one reason or another.

So, It could be a couple of days, or another month.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Greenwald, during an interview in May, said they are still compiling names, and getting all the info together.

At that time he said it should take 4 to 8 weeks, before It was ready to be released. That should put it in a June-July timeframe.

Shepard Smith announced the "end of the week". I Don't know where he got that info from.

Greenwald also said it's not a list of everybody that the NSA has gathered data on. That would be just about everybody in the US.

It is a list of people, who are being specifically "targeted", by the NSA, for one reason or another.

So, It could be a couple of days, or another month.
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I'm not buying it. If they were serious, they'd release ALL of the raw data to the world, and then send out summaries as they had time to digest the data.

The important thing is to get all of these "secrets" out in the open and let the spy agencies try to justify it. I see little to no justification for any of this data to exist. If it does exist, everyone needs to know it.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
They have hired Glen Beck's story advisor...

You know, tell them that you have the biggest story EVER, which you will relay next Friday, which will probably result in presidential impeachment.

Build up the tension and excitement with preview blurbs each and every day. Then...

Come that next Friday, pretend you never promised anything and run a routine story.

This has become the way of hysterical-media-for-ratings.

You've been punked.
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They have hired Glen Beck's story advisor...

You know, tell them that you have the biggest story EVER, which you will relay next Friday, which will probably result in presidential impeachment.

Build up the tension and excitement with preview blurbs each and every day. Then...

Come that next Friday, pretend you never promised anything and run a routine story.

This has become the way of hysterical-media-for-ratings.

You've been punked.
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The first rule for winning a fight is to NEVER telegraph your moves. The first move needs to be a knockout blow.

This pansy-assed approach to doling out bits of information just gets people bored, and then they decide that the provider is just full of shit. If it all doesn't come at once, then it's got an agenda. If it has an agenda, it can't be trusted.
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Did I miss something or weren't they going to release names last week?
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I confidently guarantee that "Snowjob" and his gay buddy will NEVAH release anything of any significance whatsoEVAH!
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Did I miss something or weren't they going to release names last week?
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I confidently guarantee that "Snowjob" and his gay buddy will NEVAH release anything of any significance whatsoEVAH!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10512917


This reminds me too much of WikiLeaks. They were going to destroy the Government.

We all see how that turned out. Soon there will be a movie made about this whole dumbass thing.
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Did I miss something or weren't they going to release names last week?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56019491


I confidently guarantee that "Snowjob" and his gay buddy will NEVAH release anything of any significance whatsoEVAH!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10512917


This reminds me too much of WikiLeaks. They were going to destroy the Government.

We all see how that turned out. Soon there will be a movie made about this whole dumbass thing.
 Quoting: Johnny Lawrence


"Politics is the entertainment branch of industry.’ It’s all a big sideshow, all set up to divert your attention from the way corporations are screwing the public.” -Frank Zappa
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
Maybe something is going on "behind the scenes" that we don't know about.
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always is...

always has been
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Re: I though Snowden and Greenwald were supposed to release names?
doesn't much matter what they've amassed in their continuous illegal stalking of humanity in truth

as they've been stalked with means which far surpass their own shoddy levels of such in truth

all of along now and even still

besides, when lucifer arrives don't think for one minute that he hasn't had the means, will to bother, and capacity to surveil all souls herein in their passage thru bodies of flesh

and he is and will be returning at the 6th Trumpet

whereby all can kneel at his feet in what little time they will have left at that point

to bother...





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