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Was Adam created as a spirit creature in heaven and then transferred into an experimental claymation earthly body for testing ?

 
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Was Adam created as a spirit creature in heaven and then transferred into an experimental claymation earthly body for testing ?
"And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul. 8 Further, Jehovah God planted a garden in E′den, toward the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 Thus Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree desirable to one’s sight and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad." Ge2:7
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"And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul. 8 Further, Jehovah God planted a garden in E′den, toward the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 Thus Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree desirable to one’s sight and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad." Ge2:7
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man was created in heaven first.

nothing that comes from heaven can ever truly leave.

heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

the earth has been given over to the foul one... the liar.


heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

heavenly things are forever.

the blueprints... show me the blueprints.

the blueprince; show me the blueprince.

the blue prince... show me....
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"It is We Who Created you and gave you shape; then We bade the Angels bow down to Adam, and they bowed down; not so Iblis; he refused to be of those who bow down. (Allah) said: 'What prevented thee from bowing down when I commanded thee? He said: 'I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire, and him from clay. (Allah) said: 'Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out, for thou art of the meanest (of creatures). He said: 'Give me respite till the day they are raised up. (Allah) said: 'Be thou amongst those who have respite.' He said: 'Because thou hast thrown me out of the Way, lo! I will lie in wait for them on thy Straight Way: Then will I assault them from before them and behind them, from their right and their left: Nor wilt Thou find, in most of them, gratitude (of Thy mercies).' (Allah) said: 'Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee - Hell will I fill with you all. (The Noble Quran, 11-18)"
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"And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul. 8 Further, Jehovah God planted a garden in E′den, toward the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 Thus Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree desirable to one’s sight and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad." Ge2:7
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man was created in heaven first.

nothing that comes from heaven can ever truly leave.

heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

the earth has been given over to the foul one... the liar.


heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

heavenly things are forever.

the blueprints... show me the blueprints.

the blueprince; show me the blueprince.

the blue prince... show me....
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"And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:" Rv12:7
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"And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul. 8 Further, Jehovah God planted a garden in E′den, toward the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 Thus Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree desirable to one’s sight and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad." Ge2:7
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man was created in heaven first.

nothing that comes from heaven can ever truly leave.

heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

the earth has been given over to the foul one... the liar.


heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

heavenly things are forever.

the blueprints... show me the blueprints.

the blueprince; show me the blueprince.

the blue prince... show me....
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"And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:" Rv12:7
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"Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. 12 On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time."
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Re: Was Adam created as a spirit creature in heaven and then transferred into an experimental claymation earthly body for testing ?
"And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul. 8 Further, Jehovah God planted a garden in E′den, toward the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 Thus Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree desirable to one’s sight and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad." Ge2:7
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man was created in heaven first.

nothing that comes from heaven can ever truly leave.

heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

the earth has been given over to the foul one... the liar.


heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

heavenly things are forever.

the blueprints... show me the blueprints.

the blueprince; show me the blueprince.

the blue prince... show me....
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QUOTE; "man was created in heaven first."
"And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul"
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Adam and Eve were created so they could have one child that would become the wife of their only child. Mary of Bethany, the Beloved Disciple is that woman who will be the 1st of the 12 Tribes to be resurrected to life.
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Re: Was Adam created as a spirit creature in heaven and then transferred into an experimental claymation earthly body for testing ?
you will know when you stop believing in jesus, and the gentiles say "come let us go to the house of the G-d of Jacob and LEARN..."

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Adam and Eve were created so they could have one child that would become the wife of their only child. Mary of Bethany, the Beloved Disciple is that woman who will be the 1st of the 12 Tribes to be resurrected to life.
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"And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.” 27 And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. 28 Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.” Ge1:26
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Re: Was Adam created as a spirit creature in heaven and then transferred into an experimental claymation earthly body for testing ?
"And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul. 8 Further, Jehovah God planted a garden in E′den, toward the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 Thus Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree desirable to one’s sight and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad." Ge2:7
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man was created in heaven first.

nothing that comes from heaven can ever truly leave.

heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

the earth has been given over to the foul one... the liar.


heavenly things are heavenly and will not be corrupted.

heavenly things are forever.

the blueprints... show me the blueprints.

the blueprince; show me the blueprince.

the blue prince... show me....
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How can this be? Writing your own Bible? “There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7).

So that is two births, one you must be born of flesh, two, you must be born again, a spiritual birth, since original sin entered into our makeup and Adam died the day he sinned, spiritually, it took his body almost a thousand years to follow.

If as you propose, all is born in heaven then returns again, then why the death of Christ to save all that was lost at the fall? No, you are wrong, and you discredit the only person that ever came to die so you can live, in other words, destroy the curse of sin which is death. Only Jesus saves as our only Lord God and Savior that is the only person that came to die and not for Himself.
You are a unitarian, Jesus calls His people a remnant. Can't have it both ways.





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