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Is The Torah A Complete Forgery?

 
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Is The Torah A Complete Forgery?
Is it comprised of plagiarized/rewritten Egyptian/Sumerian(Civilizations around that time period) stories/myths with a few names and events changed to protect the innocent?

Is this one of the worlds greatest psy-op? This "God" of the Torah has been absent for eons. Is it even alive or is it dead?
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as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
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as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
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Torah and Bible were written by man, Quran was sent down through revelations by the CREATOR himself
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as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
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Torah and Bible were written by man, Quran was sent down through revelations by the CREATOR himself
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Who's on first?
Think Golden Mirror!
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as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
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The bible is a continuation of said psy-op for a new age? The creation of the bible almost sealed the deal to keep all lost. The Christ came unexpectedly and did the unexpected. So the rulers gathered and made a plan. The creation of the Bible was their plan and it has been working fine ever since. Consider it like the Torah version 2.0.

it is a WMD...World Mass Deception
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Re: Is The Torah A Complete Forgery?
as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61523752


Torah and Bible were written by man, Quran was sent down through revelations by the CREATOR himself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61536014


Correct me if im wrong bro but didn't Moses(PBUH) receive revelation from Allah through the angel Gabriel. Remember when he went away from his people for 40 days so he can write that Torah?

I'm not too sure about the Gospel however. Jesus(PBUH) was not a universal messenger he came to teach and correct the house of Israel to devote themselves to the worship of Allah. It's possible that the angel Gabriel himself was giving information to Jesus(PBUH) in regards to how to guide the children of Israel.


In the Qur'an Allah does he say sent the Torah and the Gospel before he perfected the religon of Islam by sending down the Qur'an.
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as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61523752


The bible is a continuation of said psy-op for a new age. The creation of the bible almost sealed the deal to keep all lost. The Christ came unexpectedly and did the unexpected. So the rulers gathered and made a plan. The creation of the Bible was their plan and it has been working fine ever since. Consider it like the Torah version 2.0.

it is a WMD...World Mass Deception
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fixed ? mark need to be .
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as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
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Torah and Bible were written by man, Quran was sent down through revelations by the CREATOR himself
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Who's on first?
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ghost man on first and second...are you pitching?
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as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
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Torah and Bible were written by man, Quran was sent down through revelations by the CREATOR himself
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The book the Muslims revere?
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as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61523752


Torah and Bible were written by man, Quran was sent down through revelations by the CREATOR himself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61536014


Correct me if im wrong bro but didn't Moses(PBUH) receive revelation from Allah through the angel Gabriel. Remember when he went away from his people for 40 days so he can write that Torah?

I'm not too sure about the Gospel however. Jesus(PBUH) was not a universal messenger he came to teach and correct the house of Israel to devote themselves to the worship of Allah. It's possible that the angel Gabriel himself was giving information to Jesus(PBUH) in regards to how to guide the children of Israel.


In the Qur'an Allah does he say sent the Torah and the Gospel before he perfected the religon of Islam by sending down the Qur'an.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663579


That is because it suppose to be the religion for the coming age. A deal was made that the Jews will rule for appointed time, then those who follow Jesus and last the Muslims would get their allotted time. Problem is the one who planned this didn't expect for another wildcard. It thought by putting Jesus on the cross it has won.

It has no foreknowledge, it is in error.
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as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61523752


Torah and Bible were written by man, Quran was sent down through revelations by the CREATOR himself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61536014


Correct me if im wrong bro but didn't Moses(PBUH) receive revelation from Allah through the angel Gabriel. Remember when he went away from his people for 40 days so he can write that Torah?

I'm not too sure about the Gospel however. Jesus(PBUH) was not a universal messenger he came to teach and correct the house of Israel to devote themselves to the worship of Allah. It's possible that the angel Gabriel himself was giving information to Jesus(PBUH) in regards to how to guide the children of Israel.


In the Qur'an Allah does he say sent the Torah and the Gospel before he perfected the religon of Islam by sending down the Qur'an.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663579


That is because it suppose to be the religion for the coming age. A deal was made that the Jews will rule for appointed time, then those who follow Jesus and last the Muslims would get their allotted time. Problem is the one who planned this didn't expect for another wildcard. It thought by putting Jesus on the cross it has won.

It has no foreknowledge, it is in error.
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You make these claims therefore the onus is on you to prove your claims.
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Torah and Bible were written by man, Quran was sent down through revelations by the CREATOR himself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61536014


Correct me if im wrong bro but didn't Moses(PBUH) receive revelation from Allah through the angel Gabriel. Remember when he went away from his people for 40 days so he can write that Torah?

I'm not too sure about the Gospel however. Jesus(PBUH) was not a universal messenger he came to teach and correct the house of Israel to devote themselves to the worship of Allah. It's possible that the angel Gabriel himself was giving information to Jesus(PBUH) in regards to how to guide the children of Israel.


In the Qur'an Allah does he say sent the Torah and the Gospel before he perfected the religon of Islam by sending down the Qur'an.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663579


That is because it suppose to be the religion for the coming age. A deal was made that the Jews will rule for appointed time, then those who follow Jesus and last the Muslims would get their allotted time. Problem is the one who planned this didn't expect for another wildcard. It thought by putting Jesus on the cross it has won.

It has no foreknowledge, it is in error.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50400359


You make these claims therefore the onus is on you to prove your claims.
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what will stand/be accepted sufficient as proof or absolute proof?
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Re: Is The Torah A Complete Forgery?
Is it comprised of plagiarized/rewritten Egyptian/Sumerian(Civilizations around that time period) stories/myths with a few names and events changed to protect the innocent?

Is this one of the worlds greatest psy-op? This "God" of the Torah has been absent for eons. Is it even alive or is it dead?
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The Torah is just hocus pocus made by the khazar kingdom.
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Correct me if im wrong bro but didn't Moses(PBUH) receive revelation from Allah through the angel Gabriel. Remember when he went away from his people for 40 days so he can write that Torah?

I'm not too sure about the Gospel however. Jesus(PBUH) was not a universal messenger he came to teach and correct the house of Israel to devote themselves to the worship of Allah. It's possible that the angel Gabriel himself was giving information to Jesus(PBUH) in regards to how to guide the children of Israel.


In the Qur'an Allah does he say sent the Torah and the Gospel before he perfected the religon of Islam by sending down the Qur'an.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663579


That is because it suppose to be the religion for the coming age. A deal was made that the Jews will rule for appointed time, then those who follow Jesus and last the Muslims would get their allotted time. Problem is the one who planned this didn't expect for another wildcard. It thought by putting Jesus on the cross it has won.

It has no foreknowledge, it is in error.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50400359


You make these claims therefore the onus is on you to prove your claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663579


what will stand/be accepted sufficient as proof or absolute proof?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50400359


There is no real criteria. If you have proof that supports your claim, I am more than happy to read it.
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Re: Is The Torah A Complete Forgery?
Archaeological and supernatural of evidence for the book of Exodus

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I consider more of a "Best of the Ancient World" more like a composition.
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Archaeological and supernatural of evidence for the book of Exodus

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did ron take any pictures? Any witnesses?
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That is because it suppose to be the religion for the coming age. A deal was made that the Jews will rule for appointed time, then those who follow Jesus and last the Muslims would get their allotted time. Problem is the one who planned this didn't expect for another wildcard. It thought by putting Jesus on the cross it has won.

It has no foreknowledge, it is in error.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50400359


You make these claims therefore the onus is on you to prove your claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663579


what will stand/be accepted sufficient as proof or absolute proof?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50400359


There is no real criteria. If you have proof that supports your claim, I am more than happy to read it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51663579


There has to be some sort of criteria. What would you accept as proof to the claim?
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Re: Is The Torah A Complete Forgery?
Is it comprised of plagiarized/rewritten Egyptian/Sumerian(Civilizations around that time period) stories/myths with a few names and events changed to protect the innocent?

Is this one of the worlds greatest psy-op? This "God" of the Torah has been absent for eons. Is it even alive or is it dead?
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The Torah is just hocus pocus made by the khazar kingdom.
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when was the khazar kingdom established or started? There are a lot of differing thought from people on what people call the khazars.
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It can't be a creation of the khazars because one it was found in Qumran with the dead sea scrolls, and two, the Septuagint was already in circulation 200 years before Christ in Alexandria. At the time, people were arguing who was first Moses, Zoroaster or Plato, man...people are uneducated as fuck here. Really people.
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Re: Is The Torah A Complete Forgery?
as opposed to what..the Bible ?


you trying to take over Robin Williams spot ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61523752


Torah and Bible were written by man, Quran was sent down through revelations by the CREATOR himself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61536014


Who's on first?
 Quoting: OmniPhi Prime


ghost man on first and second...are you pitching?
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Who's on first, what's on second.
Think Golden Mirror!
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It can't be a creation of the khazars because one it was found in Qumran with the dead sea scrolls, and two, the Septuagint was already in circulation 200 years before Christ in Alexandria. At the time, people were arguing who was first Moses, Zoroaster or Plato, man...people are uneducated as fuck here. Really people.
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what exactly is a khazar?
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It can't be a creation of the khazars because one it was found in Qumran with the dead sea scrolls, and two, the Septuagint was already in circulation 200 years before Christ in Alexandria. At the time, people were arguing who was first Moses, Zoroaster or Plato, man...people are uneducated as fuck here. Really people.
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what exactly is a khazar?
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Google it.
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It can't be a creation of the khazars because one it was found in Qumran with the dead sea scrolls, and two, the Septuagint was already in circulation 200 years before Christ in Alexandria. At the time, people were arguing who was first Moses, Zoroaster or Plato, man...people are uneducated as fuck here. Really people.
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what exactly is a khazar?
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Google it.
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I know what google says about them. I want to know wat you say about them.
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Not a forgery, but it's not original work, it takes a lot of knowledge from the BAbylonians and Egyptians.
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It can't be a creation of the khazars because one it was found in Qumran with the dead sea scrolls, and two, the Septuagint was already in circulation 200 years before Christ in Alexandria. At the time, people were arguing who was first Moses, Zoroaster or Plato, man...people are uneducated as fuck here. Really people.
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what exactly is a khazar?
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Google it.
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I know what google says about them. I want to know wat you say about them.
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How does that relate to your original question?
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Not a forgery, but it's not original work, it takes a lot of knowledge from the BAbylonians and Egyptians.
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This sounds about right, I believe it was put together during the Babylonian exile. Lots of occult knowledge of astronomy and gematria hidden in there, it's not a mystery either the book of Daniel explains what the function of the Jews were in the Babylonian kingdom. The astrologers.
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what exactly is a khazar?
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Google it.
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I know what google says about them. I want to know wat you say about them.
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How does that relate to your original question?
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it does if they have ancient roots. If not then not so much.
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Google it.
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I know what google says about them. I want to know wat you say about them.
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How does that relate to your original question?
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it does if they have ancient roots. If not then not so much.
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Why? The khazarian Jews did not write the Torah and none of the prophets were from north of the Caucasus mountains.
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I know what google says about them. I want to know wat you say about them.
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How does that relate to your original question?
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it does if they have ancient roots. If not then not so much.
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Why? The khazarian Jews did not write the Torah and none of the prophets were from north of the Caucasus mountains.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48136458


if king tut had European type dna, then khazars could have more ancient roots than what is assumed. If they are suppose to be European type jews and European type dna was found in king tut they could have been around in egypt. Who penned the torah?
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How does that relate to your original question?
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it does if they have ancient roots. If not then not so much.
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Why? The khazarian Jews did not write the Torah and none of the prophets were from north of the Caucasus mountains.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48136458


if king tut had European type dna, then khazars could have more ancient roots than what is assumed. If they are suppose to be European type jews and European type dna was found in king tut they could have been around in egypt. Who penned the torah?
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Ah I see. That's a cool theory man, I usually just stick to what is knowabale. Peace.





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