Any Atheists Here Actually Read The Book of Revelations in the Holy Bible? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61563299 United States 09/09/2014 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering how a book written that long ago is, in detail telling what is going on in the middle east. Please explain your take with some common sense or show foolishness in it's true spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19988406 Revelations details nothing. The vagueness in its imagery and poetics leaves it open to a wide number of interpretations. It could apply to any number of periods of time. Past, present, and probably in the future. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54454713 United States 09/09/2014 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's actually the only part of the bible I've read, well okay, skimmed through. Would you mind posting the verses you're referencing In your OP? I'm under the belief that when something is written with such colorful language and loaded with metaphors, that it could be linked with any even through history. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58909169 United States 09/09/2014 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering how a book written that long ago is, in detail telling what is going on in the middle east. Please explain your take with some common sense or show foolishness in it's true spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19988406 Simple... Religious whack jobs (AKA TPTB) are attempting to make the book of revelations into reality to satisfy some sick demented desire for power. And yes, I've read the entire book, old and New Testament plus the Mormon version. Best work of fiction ever . NYT BEST SELLER!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59559032 United States 09/09/2014 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering how a book written that long ago is, in detail telling what is going on in the middle east. Please explain your take with some common sense or show foolishness in it's true spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19988406 Simple... Religious whack jobs (AKA TPTB) are attempting to make the book of revelations into reality to satisfy some sick demented desire for power. And yes, I've read the entire book, old and New Testament plus the Mormon version. Best work of fiction ever . NYT BEST SELLER!! yet you misspell it. you rock wacko. |
C|pher User ID: 53936348 Canada 09/09/2014 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering how a book written that long ago is, in detail telling what is going on in the middle east. Please explain your take with some common sense or show foolishness in it's true spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19988406 Revelations details nothing. The vagueness in its imagery and poetics leaves it open to a wide number of interpretations. It could apply to any number of periods of time. Past, present, and probably in the future. Bingo It's actually the only part of the bible I've read, well okay, skimmed through. Would you mind posting the verses you're referencing In your OP? I'm under the belief that when something is written with such colorful language and loaded with metaphors, that it could be linked with any even through history. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54454713 Bango The Bible doesn't detail anything. You'll need to tell us exactly what you want us to read into it so we can get the same thing you do out of it. Exactly what religion has been doing to it's loyal flock of sheep for centuries. |
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C|pher User ID: 53936348 Canada 09/09/2014 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would an atheist waste time reading something he/she considers absolute BS? Quoting: Lilac.Nights It's an important piece of historical literature. So are the Epic of Gilgamesh, The Torah, Egyptian religious texts, Sumarian Tablets, the Diamond Sutra, etc etc... Not to mention the countless Christian texts identified by the church as heretical because they didn't suit their purposes which are now lost to the ages. Have you read all those as well? Last Edited by C|pher on 09/09/2014 03:35 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62707725 Romania 09/09/2014 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering how a book written that long ago is, in detail telling what is going on in the middle east. Please explain your take with some common sense or show foolishness in it's true spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19988406 Before reading the Bible, I was a christian. After I read the whole bible, I became an atheist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62571012 United States 09/09/2014 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is most atheists and gnostics (me) usually know the bible better than most Christians. Not just the bible but other works of the period. The research taken of the time period, the evidence of the time, other cultures of the time. The translations from greek or Abrahamic as well as might have read darwin . I think the route of the problem is just, most atheists developed their opinions on actual learning, often more about the Christians faith than most Christians know. while Christians just rely on ignorance but they call it faith instead or they were just born into the religion and don't know any better. There is many a atheist (or even a gnostic like me) that probably knows more about the bible from Judaism to modern Christianity than you minister does including being able to read it in greek and Abrahamic as well as other works from the times. |
furPete'sSake User ID: 62666924 United States 09/09/2014 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear. They would just be wasting their time reading it cause they don't have the ability to understand what is written. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49048647 It's called the Revelation of Jesus Christ, but I'm sure they know that, lol "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
The Dr. User ID: 62706401 United States 09/09/2014 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering how a book written that long ago is, in detail telling what is going on in the middle east. Please explain your take with some common sense or show foolishness in it's true spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19988406 Revelations details nothing. The vagueness in its imagery and poetics leaves it open to a wide number of interpretations. It could apply to any number of periods of time. Past, present, and probably in the future. Only if you have not really read it. Read this carefully and tell me it could apply to any time in History or the Present. Rev 6:12 When the Lamb broke the sixth seal I looked, and there was a great earthquake, and the sun became as dark as sackcloth, and the whole disc of the moon became like blood. Rev 6:13 The stars in the sky also fell to the earth, as when a fig-tree, upon being shaken by a gale of wind, casts its unripe figs to the ground. Rev 6:14 The sky too passed away, as if a scroll were being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Rev 6:15 The kings of the earth and the great men, the military chiefs, the wealthy and the powerful--all, whether slaves or free men--hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, Rev 6:16 while they called to the mountains and the rocks, saying, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne and from the anger of the Lamb; Tell me a time when all these event happened at the same time, worldwide? You can't! “An investment in knowledge pays the best interest.” ~ Benjamin Franklin |
The Dr. User ID: 62706401 United States 09/09/2014 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be truthful, the book was never originally titled. So there is no true name for the book. All titles for it are made up and thus equally correct. “An investment in knowledge pays the best interest.” ~ Benjamin Franklin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59559032 United States 09/09/2014 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is most atheists and gnostics (me) usually know the bible better than most Christians. Not just the bible but other works of the period. The research taken of the time period, the evidence of the time, other cultures of the time. The translations from greek or Abrahamic as well as might have read darwin . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62571012 I think the route of the problem is just, most atheists developed their opinions on actual learning, often more about the Christians faith than most Christians know. while Christians just rely on ignorance but they call it faith instead or they were just born into the religion and don't know any better. There is many a atheist (or even a gnostic like me) that probably knows more about the bible from Judaism to modern Christianity than you minister does including being able to read it in greek and Abrahamic as well as other works from the times. did you mean "agnostic" or are you really a gnostic? if the latter i would find that somewhat odd. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62390607 United States 09/09/2014 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering how a book written that long ago is, in detail telling what is going on in the middle east. Please explain your take with some common sense or show foolishness in it's true spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19988406 Revelations details nothing. The vagueness in its imagery and poetics leaves it open to a wide number of interpretations. It could apply to any number of periods of time. Past, present, and probably in the future. Only if you have not really read it. Read this carefully and tell me it could apply to any time in History or the Present. Rev 6:12 When the Lamb broke the sixth seal I looked, and there was a great earthquake, and the sun became as dark as sackcloth, and the whole disc of the moon became like blood. Rev 6:13 The stars in the sky also fell to the earth, as when a fig-tree, upon being shaken by a gale of wind, casts its unripe figs to the ground. Rev 6:14 The sky too passed away, as if a scroll were being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Rev 6:15 The kings of the earth and the great men, the military chiefs, the wealthy and the powerful--all, whether slaves or free men--hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, Rev 6:16 while they called to the mountains and the rocks, saying, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne and from the anger of the Lamb; Tell me a time when all these event happened at the same time, worldwide? You can't! Sounds like a bunch of nonsense written by humans who didn't know the moon was a sphere and that the stars are much larger than the earth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58351617 United States 09/09/2014 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i used to read the Bible before I was a baptized believer, and it made absolutely no sense. that is by design. God does not like to waste words on people who will not receive them this is compared to casting pearls before swine |
The Dr. User ID: 62706401 United States 09/09/2014 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not an atheist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62695366 but the book of revelations says nothing about the ME situation. it takes wild imagination and baseless interpretations to associate a verse in revelations to ME situation Last I checked Israel was in the Middle East and Revelation talks about Israel a whole lot. As far as the current mess in the Middle East; it will at least have a hand in setting things up for the prophecies in Revelation to be fulfilled. Yet a direct correlation of a verse in Revelation to current events may or may not be possible at this time. Only Time will tell us that, for sure. “An investment in knowledge pays the best interest.” ~ Benjamin Franklin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7684255 United States 09/09/2014 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wondering how a book written that long ago is, in detail telling what is going on in the middle east. Please explain your take with some common sense or show foolishness in it's true spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19988406 Just wondering why it has been right for parts of the world for many many times? How about you explain that to start with... Was and shit hitting the fan is nothing now.. Just times change and the bible thumping morons spewing change... |
furPete'sSake User ID: 62666924 United States 09/09/2014 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i used to read the Bible before I was a baptized believer, and it made absolutely no sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58351617 that is by design. God does not like to waste words on people who will not receive them this is compared to casting pearls before swine if they don't love God and believe in Christ, they can't understand it, the first sentence lays it out. of course that doesn't stop them from deprecating something they can't understand. The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, `even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified `it by his angel unto his servant John "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7684255 United States 09/09/2014 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear. They would just be wasting their time reading it cause they don't have the ability to understand what is written. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49048647 Christians have mouths to condemn, but never step up to take responsibility, Christians have eyes to only see the bad in others and judge even when its not their job, Christians have ears only to hear the words written bay man to control man, and they have a small brain to be controlled and not think for themselves.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62390607 United States 09/09/2014 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i used to read the Bible before I was a baptized believer, and it made absolutely no sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58351617 that is by design. God does not like to waste words on people who will not receive them this is compared to casting pearls before swine So this essential guarantees almost everyone will burn in hell since they have to be saved just to "understand" the bible when the bible is the very thing that is supposed to tell them they need to be saved? Sounds like the god of the bible really does want the majority to burn in hell forever and ever. |
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