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I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:

 
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Nobody really wants to solve this problem. The issue is anchor babies, until that problem is solved that will continue to be a problem that will create a crisis requiring remedy every 20 years or so.

Here's how to really fix this problem once and for all:
14th Amendment
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Now see the problem? We need to address this problem at the constitutional level. Any law in violation of what I just underlined would be illegal and violate rights. We need a constitutional amendment undoing that language like they did with income tax. It needs to state that the legislature will set citizenship requirements, which would leave lots of room potentially for abuse or it needs to void birth within our borders as a means of becoming a U.S. Citizen and instead attach it to the citizenship of at least one of the parents regardless of where the child is born.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64850346

Constitutional convention not required. Lawsuit to Supreme Court or Congressional request to the Supreme Court for clarification of "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" would eliminate this anchor baby / chain migration problem. Legal scholars have been clear on this topic. A baby born in the US of illegals (non US citizens) are citizens of their parents country NOT citizens of US. Only if one parent is a US citizen does citizen transfer to the child. Neither Democrats nor Republicans take this to Supreme Court for clarification because both Dems and Reps are funded and controlled by globalists who want to do away with all national boundaries.
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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
Nobody really wants to solve this problem. The issue is anchor babies, until that problem is solved that will continue to be a problem that will create a crisis requiring remedy every 20 years or so.

Here's how to really fix this problem once and for all:
14th Amendment
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Now see the problem? We need to address this problem at the constitutional level. Any law in violation of what I just underlined would be illegal and violate rights. We need a constitutional amendment undoing that language like they did with income tax. It needs to state that the legislature will set citizenship requirements, which would leave lots of room potentially for abuse or it needs to void birth within our borders as a means of becoming a U.S. Citizen and instead attach it to the citizenship of at least one of the parents regardless of where the child is born.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64850346

Constitutional convention not required. Lawsuit to Supreme Court or Congressional request to the Supreme Court for clarification of "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" would eliminate this anchor baby / chain migration problem. Legal scholars have been clear on this topic. A baby born in the US of illegals (non US citizens) are citizens of their parents country NOT citizens of US. Only if one parent is a US citizen does citizen transfer to the child. Neither Democrats nor Republicans take this to Supreme Court for clarification because both Dems and Reps are funded and controlled by globalists who want to do away with all national boundaries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65121708

The original interpretation of the 14th Amendment, up until about 1900, would not have made citizens of anchor babies.

It was intentionally perverted to its new application.

Just go back to the original interpretation one way or the other, and we can get rid of "birthright citizenship."
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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
this woman says it all, don't trust this administration



she is one smart person, I wish the rest of the media wasn't so "STUPID"
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not all of us are
but not enough to make much of a difference
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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
The fact is, Illegal Aliens are not going to follow Obama's plan,
especially if they think it can be undone by a Republican
president in 2016.

The GOP and Republican governors will file lawsuits, putting
enough doubt in the situation, because it would also take a
couple of years to get to the Supreme Court, again putting doubt
over the entire situation until 2016.

Republicans hold the majority of State legislatures, and will
collectively find ways to ensure (just like Texas has) that
Illegal Aliens cannot VOTE in 2016. Because as it's been noted
elsewhere, it would take 22 YEARS to process 5 million Illegals.

Illegals won't register as Obama mandates in his Executive order.
Most distrust government as much as any member of GLP does!

Illegals won't pay their Taxes. They won't get their fucking Greencards.
Some might get their family members over, but they can at least mow
my lawn and clean my house cheaply as payback for the damage they cause.


Obama's bullshit is really all for show and for his Base.
If anything, the Illegals should be pissed at him for giving
them false hope.

And don't bother with Impeachment, as much as Hussein deserves it.

It would pass the House, but not the Senate. Meanwhile, we take
the chance in alienating open-minded democrats (not the libtards)
who might be open to the Conservative movement because of Obama's
radical agenda against America.
 Quoting: Joe Camel


Well said!
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Illegals won't register as Obama mandates in his Executive order.
Most distrust government as much as any member of GLP does!

 Quoting: Joe Camel


Oh yes they will.

Offer free stuff, and they'll register.
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They already get free stuff, so why would they bother?
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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
What's a "hardcore tea party guy" is that some kind of sexual fetish, I haven't heard of?
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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
IMPEACH his ass!

Nixon and Clinton were impeached for far less...
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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
Anyone who starts their post "I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy" IS and ALWAYS will be a shill.

So what is the shill's motivation?

He's basically downplaying the egregious nature of Obama's executive action. The OP is trying to convince you that this is no big deal.

So, most likely OP is a shill for the RINOs because they would worry most about GLP-Tea Party types causing trouble.

The useless GOP left town and did NOTHING. They did NOTHING. The very next day and they left for Thanksgiving. Republicans are useless, especially RINOs.

Now, all of the sudden, the RINO shilling starts.

OP has been outed. Ban him please.
...unless you are in on it.
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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
Illegals don't use their real names on their fake ID's. If they register with their fake ID's and it doesn't benefit them they'll just get another fake ID.
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One star for hiring illegals to mow your lawn and clean your house. You that employ them are a huge part of the problem you and your cheap labor you hypocrite. No wonder they come here.

tdown
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Actually I've never hired a fucking Illegal in my life. Not
planning to start either. Just trying to incite panic among
any libtards on the thread.

The trust is, I'm in favor of HARSH penalties for employers
who hire illegals, and cannot support the Chamber of Commerce
for that very reason.

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 Quoting: Joe Camel


You are LYING to that poster.

I was here earlier and read it in your OP.

You said you would continue to hire illegals to do yardwork and maidwork at a cheaper price as their punishment for being here.

I read it - you said it.

And now you edited what you said out of your OP!

I would give you red karma for your three stunts if I could.
One for hiring illegals,
two for removing your admittance to it from your OP and lying about it,
and three for calling that poster a libtard when libtards are those that want illegals to work here.

Are you a libtard in disguise?

Three strikes - you're out.

You are supporting the illegals being here and you are a liar and a disgrace to Republicans and the Tea Party.

One star and unpin vote for your dishonesty.

And if there are any other Republicans or Tea Party members out there who are reading this and you are employing illegals as well as the OP, this is directed at you too.


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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
Are you all dumb enough to take this bait? You should have figured out what this thread was as soon as you read "I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy"

Yeah, sure you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65361753
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Yeah, I am, fucknut. And my views are held by many other Tea Party
leaders, at least the more pragmatic ones.

I'm not saying I'm happy about this. Obviously, many of the libtards
are not happy with Obama's Amnesty either. I'd rather see Obama
and Eric Holder behind bars, but that's not going to happen as
long as a democrat is in office.


After 4 years in the Tea Party, I've learned to work smarter
and focus on the things that matter and on the things we can change.

That's why if I could chose between Impeachment or Govt shutdown,
I'd choose Govt Shutdown -- especially if it's shut down because
of Obama vetoes. Then it's HIS fault and he can't just vote PRESENT.

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Even if you don't take an interest in Politics,
eventually Politics is going to take an interest in you.


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And if there are any other Republicans or Tea Party members out
there who are reading this and you are employing illegals as well
as the OP, this is directed at you too.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49524052
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Even in 2014, perhaps one of the greatest insults you can make
to a Tea Party patriot is to roll them up with the republicans.


Of the two major parties, we align more with the republicans.
There are no Conservatives left in the democrat party.

But if we are "with" the GOP, it's only so we can infiltrate and
harass the establishment RINOs so they vote more like Conservatives.

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Even if you don't take an interest in Politics,
eventually Politics is going to take an interest in you.


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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
Are you all dumb enough to take this bait? You should have figured out what this thread was as soon as you read "I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy"

Yeah, sure you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65361753
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Yeah, I am, fucknut. And my views are held by many other Tea Party
leaders, at least the more pragmatic ones.

I'm not saying I'm happy about this. Obviously, many of the libtards
are not happy with Obama's Amnesty either. I'd rather see Obama
and Eric Holder behind bars, but that's not going to happen as
long as a democrat is in office.


After 4 years in the Tea Party, I've learned to work smarter
and focus on the things that matter and on the things we can change.

That's why if I could chose between Impeachment or Govt shutdown,
I'd choose Govt Shutdown -- especially if it's shut down because
of Obama vetoes. Then it's HIS fault and he can't just vote PRESENT.

.
 Quoting: Joe Camel


OP do not double-down. Read the last four Posts, everyone knows you are paid opposition. Now like a good shill, shut down your 'Joe Camel' name (like you're an average 'Joe' who smokes) and comeback with a new name like 'GM' or 'Don'tBeAWeiner' or 'SnakeAirlines' then return to your shilling.
It's probably shill payday today and you got lazy AND busted. Move along, you are done.
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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
Did anybody notice he said the most sensitive issue is the children being born here making it difficult to deport??

Why would it be difficult send the whole family back the parents responsibility to raise them not tax payers. They will have dual citizenship so if arrangements can be made the kids can stay but not parents if the parents want to do whats right they can raise then up until they are old enough to decide which country they want to live in..

Sounds fair to me

It will end the flood of illegals as that is their number 1 goal have a child born here and stay here

Another thing he kept pointing out is how unrealistic it would be to round them all up and deport them... what horseshit

Didnt we round up all the japanese and put them in internment camps after pearl harbor?

There is a rumor going around they want to put americans in fema camps how they gonna do that if they cant round up just the illegals?
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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
The illegals are thinking wtf We have to pay taxes now ?

Nothing will change..
 Quoting: Acro


Exactly. I thought about this after hearing his speech on a radio show early this a.m. The only ones who will be trying to get legal are the ones in college or are going to be there soon. And I will bet that is a LARGE minority.

All others will continue as it has been for, well, forever. They don're want to pay taxes, be on the hook as citizens are, have to serve on a jury, heck they don't want to be in the crosshairs of cops. They just let them go now, or serve a day or two in jail.

There is nothing in it for them. And the smart ones see how he has repeatedly lied, over and over and over ad infinitum to his own citizens.
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I'd rather it be reciprocal, let every U.S. citizen that wants to flee to another country do so without penalty. But uncle sugar doesn't want to let control of his wage slaves!!
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I'd rather it be reciprocal, let every U.S. citizen that wants to flee to another country do so without penalty. But uncle sugar doesn't want to let control of his wage slaves!!
 Quoting: chuckles45


That would be great. Why can't we in the US immigrate to other countries this easily? It's like we're trapped and forced to watch illegals come here and get everything handed to them on a golden platter.
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One star for hiring illegals to mow your lawn and clean your house. You that employ them are a huge part of the problem you and your cheap labor you hypocrite. No wonder they come here.

tdown
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Actually I've never hired a fucking Illegal in my life. Not
planning to start either. Just trying to incite panic among
any libtards on the thread.

The trust is, I'm in favor of HARSH penalties for employers
who hire illegals, and cannot support the Chamber of Commerce
for that very reason.

.
 Quoting: Joe Camel


You are LYING to that poster.

I was here earlier and read it in your OP.

You said you would continue to hire illegals to do yardwork and maidwork at a cheaper price as their punishment for being here.

I read it - you said it.

And now you edited what you said out of your OP!

I would give you red karma for your three stunts if I could.
One for hiring illegals,
two for removing your admittance to it from your OP and lying about it,
and three for calling that poster a libtard when libtards are those that want illegals to work here.

Are you a libtard in disguise?

Three strikes - you're out.

You are supporting the illegals being here and you are a liar and a disgrace to Republicans and the Tea Party.

One star and unpin vote for your dishonesty.

And if there are any other Republicans or Tea Party members out there who are reading this and you are employing illegals as well as the OP, this is directed at you too.


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Re: I'm a hardcore Tea Party guy, and I say do NOT fall for Obama's do-nothing Amnesty trap. Here's why:
Dear Joe camel, and the rest of you like minded folk.

Are any one of you Native American? If so the you and I need to talk, but for the rest of you how dare you. Have you all forgotten your family histories. Do you all forget that you all came from across the ocean. That said that means you came from elsewhere. You are still trying to figure out to live on this land now called the Americas.
As for the brown people you all say don't belong here get real. Mexicans belong here just like most White Americans came from Europe. Did you all forget that this country is founded on lies, thift, murder, rape, slavery and genocide. These so called American hero's aren't as heroic nor nice as you all try to make them sound and you are being a traitor to the vision of America by saying no more immigrantion. You maybe a tea party person but go study you history then let's talk til then I will pray that you wake up and see the light. You all make me laugh, claiming to love god and all of his creations yet you run from people who look different from you and destroy the very planet that we need to live on as we have no where else to go.
Sad. So sad some people's ignorance. I feel bad that so called republicans like the Koch brothers can so easily use simple minded people. Wake you there amigos. Time to wake up and see the light.
Dislike close minded people as well as willfully ignorant people, but I love dogs.





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