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Reincarnation - Scientific Evidence - Proven

 
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I know, you are not happy. You have been crying a lot in this thread.

You need Jesus and you need to repent and get right with God before it's too late.

Then, and only then will He wipe away all the tears from your eyes.

Revelation 21:4: And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
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You don't even know what God is. You're idea of God is this external creator sitting in some heavenly cloud passing judgement.

I know God as a part of myself. Makes me wonder why you do not?
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Your denial of the King James Bible is clear. What is not clear to you is that the "god" who is part of you is not God.

Soon it will all be clear to you.
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what a bunch of crap. No, "reincarnation" isn't the way it is----its a false and fanciful idea with no proof to back it up whatsoever.....

You cant advocate for the supposed "reality" of reincarnation any more than you can provide undeniable proof of it. Its all literally in your deluded head.
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:crybaby01:
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


.......27 pages and not one piece of verifiable, undeniable proof of youaredreaming's claim of having had past lives....hmmm

Where is it? is it anywhere except in your head?

again, there is no proof because "reincarnation" doesn't happen.
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US homicide detective proves his past life!

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Didn't Barney Fife in Mayberry do it first?
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Your denial of the King James Bible is clear.
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person A (some guy): please proof why that book is true ? can you proof it ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): but I thought that reincarnation is true ...not true ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): can you proof it without that book ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): I don't belief you
person B (you): < bible verse >, it's the absolute proof!

person A (some guy): is there any scientific backup, like the proof for reincarnation in this thread, that one DOES have some proof ?!
person B (you): it's a lie, because < bible verse >!

give up man!

laugh
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To go back on topic on reincarnation, and why I know I came from a past-life all stems from pre-life memory. The memories of this exchange from one-life to the next as a child haunted me. My earliest childhood memories dealt with the struggle that ensued from the last life, and the traumatic memories that carried over. The memories were fragments of that past-life, and I have no audible memory short of the moments before death, so everything else is just fragmented images and feelings.

It was very clear from these memories that I was a soldier in a war. I was in a trench looking through the site on a wood-stalk bolt action rifle. The rifle looked a lot like this: [link to www.deactivated-guns.co.uk]

The trench was much like this as I was leaning up against a sloped ledge: [link to i.kinja-img.com]

Something happened, likely a shot to the head which started the death process. I went into a state of instant shock and the sound of water (one of the few audible memories) dripped near my ear. My visual perceptions collapsed to a single point until everything went black, like a cathode TV being turned off. As this was happening the sounds of these water drops became louder and like thunder until the body then released me.

I stood overlooking the battle field, still in a state of shock. This being of light decended from an unknown origin almost instantly. It sent out this beam of energy which was like a type of tractor beam, and lifted me up through all of these layers until we stopped and it began to tell me that I had passed on.

We did a bit of a tour before ending up in what can only be described as a lake of souls. Although at first, I thought I was just standing in a lake, and I put my hand in the "water" pulling out these dime-sized grey tranclucent cells or flat disks. They radiated an energy that can only be described as what life feels like.

"They were once like you, and now they await to return again." the being told me. The ocean was vast and endless.

"What do you mean?" I asked the being.

"They are waiting to return to life." the being described.

That was when I realized the being was going to send me back. "I don't want to go back, it's crazy down there. Everyone killing everyone, I don't want to go." I protested.

"You have to go back. This time it will be different." the being tells me and that is when it sent me to what I dub the "blender" because it's that transition back into this reality that literally strips away and grinds up one's personality (hence the fragmented memories) and I would wake up a child less than two.

As a child, the memories were vivid, lucid and haunting. I would even leave my body and go back and protest to the being asking, "Why did you send me back! I didn't want to go back." and it would always send me back waking me up.

The struggle with these memories lasted up until I was 5 years old, my mother even remembering me telling her about being in a war, and describing the war. She just told me it was a bad dream. But the dream that I was telling her was me reliving the dying process, the recycle and the return over and over again.

Other fragmented memories included being on a train, looking at myself with a feeling that I was looking at a ghost in the reflection of the glass. I remembered having a black and white single page photo album with the corners of the pictures tucked in to them, with pictures of my family.

From what I could recall my Uncle owned a barber shop and we used to sit outside on the side-walk and play cards on a table. It had one of those stand-up barber poles by the door. There was a lot more memory as a child but 42 years later that's about all I can recall.

When you have these types of memories, and as a child who should know nothing about war or dying... it becomes very apparent that where did these memories come from?

Many years later, I would start to have lucid dreams and go out-of-body. During that era of my life I was able to return to this being yet again. This time it was teaching me things that lead to some of my most amazing experiences with lucid dreaming as well as showed me what these grey disks were evolving into. Each one becoming a brilliant being of light. It would show that I had many lives and the flow of these lives as to what carried me to the next all fit based on feelings, desires and underlined the motivation to return each time.

It would be further down the journey when on one return to this being, I came to realize that this being was actually myself. And that day, we merged. On that day I never returned to this dualism between my future self and my present self and knew that I had sent myself back in-order to help facilitate the evolutionary process that would lead to my becoming more than what I once was.

It closed the circuit and now I know why I am back, and why I sent myself back so the dark, fearful emotions are gone with a profound understanding and appreciation for who I am as a part of this amazing entity.

There has been so many incredible experiences that had followed, so I am really grateful in hindsight of this process. There is no fear of death in this life, only an understanding that it will come to an end, and I will return to where I come from changed and different.

So do I need to provide evidence of this to anyone? I don't think so. What matters is that it is my journey with this grand reality and what I take from it in these profound realizations.

After all, I understand how truth of this nature is realized and it cannot be passed on to someone else. Where the truth for me would represent gold, should I give it to them, it would in their eyes turn to fools gold.

The truth must be realized from within, through similar processes or we will be locked into the illusions of our human personality blind to the true self that wears that mask.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Wow, that's detailed and pretty cool. Any idea why we are made to forget? Because to me it seems that that only allows the trap to be more effective.
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<xtiantard>
It is given to man to live only once; then the Judgment!

This "doctor" has clearly been deluded by Satan!

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Expand your interpretation of "It is given to man to live once; then the judgement." Can't you see how this could refer to the idea that after the death of the body, the soul has to see the impact and then the soul can go on.
That scripture does not preclude reincarnation; your paradigm of the scripture does; but, that does not make it so.

It is said that the original catholic church did teach reincarnation; but, that gave people too much hope and they were not as easy to control.

Also, look at what Jesus said about Elijah and John the Baptist; he even said that if people only understood, they could realize that they were the same (that's a paraphrase--I don't remember the exact words.)
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To go back on topic on reincarnation, and why I know I came from a past-life all stems from pre-life memory. The memories of this exchange from one-life to the next as a child haunted me. My earliest childhood memories dealt with the struggle that ensued from the last life, and the traumatic memories that carried over. The memories were fragments of that past-life, and I have no audible memory short of the moments before death, so everything else is just fragmented images and feelings.

It was very clear from these memories that I was a soldier in a war. I was in a trench looking through the site on a wood-stalk bolt action rifle. The rifle looked a lot like this: [link to www.deactivated-guns.co.uk]

The trench was much like this as I was leaning up against a sloped ledge: [link to i.kinja-img.com]

Something happened, likely a shot to the head which started the death process. I went into a state of instant shock and the sound of water (one of the few audible memories) dripped near my ear. My visual perceptions collapsed to a single point until everything went black, like a cathode TV being turned off. As this was happening the sounds of these water drops became louder and like thunder until the body then released me.

I stood overlooking the battle field, still in a state of shock. This being of light decended from an unknown origin almost instantly. It sent out this beam of energy which was like a type of tractor beam, and lifted me up through all of these layers until we stopped and it began to tell me that I had passed on.

We did a bit of a tour before ending up in what can only be described as a lake of souls. Although at first, I thought I was just standing in a lake, and I put my hand in the "water" pulling out these dime-sized grey tranclucent cells or flat disks. They radiated an energy that can only be described as what life feels like.

"They were once like you, and now they await to return again." the being told me. The ocean was vast and endless.

"What do you mean?" I asked the being.

"They are waiting to return to life." the being described.

That was when I realized the being was going to send me back. "I don't want to go back, it's crazy down there. Everyone killing everyone, I don't want to go." I protested.

"You have to go back. This time it will be different." the being tells me and that is when it sent me to what I dub the "blender" because it's that transition back into this reality that literally strips away and grinds up one's personality (hence the fragmented memories) and I would wake up a child less than two.

As a child, the memories were vivid, lucid and haunting. I would even leave my body and go back and protest to the being asking, "Why did you send me back! I didn't want to go back." and it would always send me back waking me up.

The struggle with these memories lasted up until I was 5 years old, my mother even remembering me telling her about being in a war, and describing the war. She just told me it was a bad dream. But the dream that I was telling her was me reliving the dying process, the recycle and the return over and over again.

Other fragmented memories included being on a train, looking at myself with a feeling that I was looking at a ghost in the reflection of the glass. I remembered having a black and white single page photo album with the corners of the pictures tucked in to them, with pictures of my family.

From what I could recall my Uncle owned a barber shop and we used to sit outside on the side-walk and play cards on a table. It had one of those stand-up barber poles by the door. There was a lot more memory as a child but 42 years later that's about all I can recall.

When you have these types of memories, and as a child who should know nothing about war or dying... it becomes very apparent that where did these memories come from?

Many years later, I would start to have lucid dreams and go out-of-body. During that era of my life I was able to return to this being yet again. This time it was teaching me things that lead to some of my most amazing experiences with lucid dreaming as well as showed me what these grey disks were evolving into. Each one becoming a brilliant being of light. It would show that I had many lives and the flow of these lives as to what carried me to the next all fit based on feelings, desires and underlined the motivation to return each time.

It would be further down the journey when on one return to this being, I came to realize that this being was actually myself. And that day, we merged. On that day I never returned to this dualism between my future self and my present self and knew that I had sent myself back in-order to help facilitate the evolutionary process that would lead to my becoming more than what I once was.

It closed the circuit and now I know why I am back, and why I sent myself back so the dark, fearful emotions are gone with a profound understanding and appreciation for who I am as a part of this amazing entity.

There has been so many incredible experiences that had followed, so I am really grateful in hindsight of this process. There is no fear of death in this life, only an understanding that it will come to an end, and I will return to where I come from changed and different.

So do I need to provide evidence of this to anyone? I don't think so. What matters is that it is my journey with this grand reality and what I take from it in these profound realizations.

After all, I understand how truth of this nature is realized and it cannot be passed on to someone else. Where the truth for me would represent gold, should I give it to them, it would in their eyes turn to fools gold.

The truth must be realized from within, through similar processes or we will be locked into the illusions of our human personality blind to the true self that wears that mask.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Wow, that's detailed and pretty cool. Any idea why we are made to forget? Because to me it seems that that only allows the trap to be more effective.
 Quoting: {Epona}


First and foremost, we do not remember our past lives because it frees us to make different choices. We can quite literally start over in our relationships with others because we are not carrying any past baggage.

For example, if you knew someone had killed you in a past life, you might not be able to forgive them or allow them to make it up to you. Similarly, if you had married someone in a past life, you or the other person might feel as if you had to do it again. Being clear of such previous associations, you are free to do what best makes sense for the person you are today.

Second, the universe wants to make sure that you really have learned your lessons. When you forget who you were and carry your character forward into a new life to meet new challenges, that is when you receive the truest test. What you have learned - and what you have not learned - become painfully apparent.

For example, I have been a commanding General in many lifetimes. The problems I most needed to overcome was my tendency to deal with others in a domineering, authoritative manner and to be singularly lacking in compassion (at times). This life gave me many chances to correct this (see the Case History). I hope I have done so (not that I need to worry: the universe always tells me when I am going wrong!).

Third, wearing the "veil of unknowingness" makes it easier for us to live our life now. Simply put, if we knew the precise relationship that we have had with everyone we love, feel friendship for, work with, or meet even casually, we would live in a state of information overload. Particularly if a person has been famous or infamous throughout history, they would never be free to live another life.

For example, I am often confronted with the shadows of my past. So many little children have come up to me and have saluted me as their commander from a past life, it is downright embarrassing (and uncomfortable given the often concerned looks on the faces of their parents, I apologize to them all!).
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I know, you are not happy. You have been crying a lot in this thread.

You need Jesus and you need to repent and get right with God before it's too late.

Then, and only then will He wipe away all the tears from your eyes.

Revelation 21:4: And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19464096


You don't even know what God is. You're idea of God is this external creator sitting in some heavenly cloud passing judgement.

I know God as a part of myself. Makes me wonder why you do not?
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Your denial of the King James Bible is clear. What is not clear to you is that the "god" who is part of you is not God.

Soon it will all be clear to you.
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You do know--don't you---that the King James Version of the Bible is not necessarily any better translation than many others. It was translates when King James of England asked for the translation. At the time, the religious war between Catholics and Protestants was raging. Queen Elizabeth was dead, James had taken over, Shakespeare was writing, and King James wanted a good English version. Yes, they really worked hard and did a great job on the translation; however, the reason it sounds the way it does is because it came from the same era as Shakespeare; It is not because there is something extra holy about the style of the words. King James would have been King around the 1600's in England. He was the son of Mary, Queen of Scots.
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I know, you are not happy. You have been crying a lot in this thread.

You need Jesus and you need to repent and get right with God before it's too late.

Then, and only then will He wipe away all the tears from your eyes.

Revelation 21:4: And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19464096


You don't even know what God is. You're idea of God is this external creator sitting in some heavenly cloud passing judgement.

I know God as a part of myself. Makes me wonder why you do not?
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Your denial of the King James Bible is clear. What is not clear to you is that the "god" who is part of you is not God.

Soon it will all be clear to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67658340


You do know--don't you---that the King James Version of the Bible is not necessarily any better translation than many others. It was translates when King James of England asked for the translation. At the time, the religious war between Catholics and Protestants was raging. Queen Elizabeth was dead, James had taken over, Shakespeare was writing, and King James wanted a good English version. Yes, they really worked hard and did a great job on the translation; however, the reason it sounds the way it does is because it came from the same era as Shakespeare; It is not because there is something extra holy about the style of the words. King James would have been King around the 1600's in England. He was the son of Mary, Queen of Scots.
 Quoting: wk


Nothing you just said has anything to do with God's Word. Your comments focus on human events of the time period.

God was nowhere to be found in your comments. How does that happen when you are speaking about God's Word?
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Your denial of the King James Bible is clear.
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person A (some guy): please proof why that book is true ? can you proof it ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): but I thought that reincarnation is true ...not true ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): can you proof it without that book ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): I don't belief you
person B (you): < bible verse >, it's the absolute proof!

person A (some guy): is there any scientific backup, like the proof for reincarnation in this thread, that one DOES have some proof ?!
person B (you): it's a lie, because < bible verse >!

give up man!

laugh
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Person A - claims Bible controls people.
Person B - asks to be shown Bible verses that control us
Person A - gives no proof but leaves insults about "Bibletards".

And so it goes.

Person A is always a moron
Person B knows God's Word

Person A makes Person B laugh.......... a lot.
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Your denial of the King James Bible is clear.
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person A (some guy): please proof why that book is true ? can you proof it ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): but I thought that reincarnation is true ...not true ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): can you proof it without that book ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): I don't belief you
person B (you): < bible verse >, it's the absolute proof!

person A (some guy): is there any scientific backup, like the proof for reincarnation in this thread, that one DOES have some proof ?!
person B (you): it's a lie, because < bible verse >!

give up man!

laugh
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Isn't it the truth BERNARD 67:3 lol
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Your denial of the King James Bible is clear.
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person A (some guy): please proof why that book is true ? can you proof it ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): but I thought that reincarnation is true ...not true ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): can you proof it without that book ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): I don't belief you
person B (you): < bible verse >, it's the absolute proof!

person A (some guy): is there any scientific backup, like the proof for reincarnation in this thread, that one DOES have some proof ?!
person B (you): it's a lie, because < bible verse >!

give up man!

laugh
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Isn't it the truth BERNARD 67:3 lol
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Nope........... it's not the truth. The fact that you think it is?
THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM.
Your brain might be kaput.
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Your denial of the King James Bible is clear.
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person A (some guy): please proof why that book is true ? can you proof it ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): but I thought that reincarnation is true ...not true ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): can you proof it without that book ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): I don't belief you
person B (you): < bible verse >, it's the absolute proof!

person A (some guy): is there any scientific backup, like the proof for reincarnation in this thread, that one DOES have some proof ?!
person B (you): it's a lie, because < bible verse >!

give up man!

laugh
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Isn't it the truth BERNARD 67:3 lol
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Nope........... it's not the truth. The fact that you think it is?
THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM.
Your brain might be kaput.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67658340


Perhaps it is, perhaps it's not. I'm just glad to know I'm still standing on this side of the reincarnation line...and you're standing on the opposite side. BADENOV 7:7
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Perhaps it is, perhaps it's not. I'm just glad to know I'm still standing on this side of the reincarnation line...and you're standing on the opposite side. BADENOV 7:7
 Quoting: Blind Guava Coolidge


For me, it is not a belief as I know through the process of going through it first hand. Something many here don't realize as they are not priviledge to my experiences or memories to see what I am saying is a matter of fact, not fantasy.

However, we are to forge and shape our own beliefs and it's my opinion to know yourself is to set yourself free from the shackles of belief and become a pioneer within yourself.

Hence why I encourage lucid dreaming and out-of-body exploration as those are the true tools of ones inner journey and inner truths.

Good luck in your sojourn!
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To go back on topic on reincarnation, and why I know I came from a past-life all stems from pre-life memory. The memories of this exchange from one-life to the next as a child haunted me. My earliest childhood memories dealt with the struggle that ensued from the last life, and the traumatic memories that carried over. The memories were fragments of that past-life, and I have no audible memory short of the moments before death, so everything else is just fragmented images and feelings.

It was very clear from these memories that I was a soldier in a war. I was in a trench looking through the site on a wood-stalk bolt action rifle. The rifle looked a lot like this: [link to www.deactivated-guns.co.uk]

The trench was much like this as I was leaning up against a sloped ledge: [link to i.kinja-img.com]

Something happened, likely a shot to the head which started the death process. I went into a state of instant shock and the sound of water (one of the few audible memories) dripped near my ear. My visual perceptions collapsed to a single point until everything went black, like a cathode TV being turned off. As this was happening the sounds of these water drops became louder and like thunder until the body then released me.

I stood overlooking the battle field, still in a state of shock. This being of light decended from an unknown origin almost instantly. It sent out this beam of energy which was like a type of tractor beam, and lifted me up through all of these layers until we stopped and it began to tell me that I had passed on.

We did a bit of a tour before ending up in what can only be described as a lake of souls. Although at first, I thought I was just standing in a lake, and I put my hand in the "water" pulling out these dime-sized grey tranclucent cells or flat disks. They radiated an energy that can only be described as what life feels like.

"They were once like you, and now they await to return again." the being told me. The ocean was vast and endless.

"What do you mean?" I asked the being.

"They are waiting to return to life." the being described.

That was when I realized the being was going to send me back. "I don't want to go back, it's crazy down there. Everyone killing everyone, I don't want to go." I protested.

"You have to go back. This time it will be different." the being tells me and that is when it sent me to what I dub the "blender" because it's that transition back into this reality that literally strips away and grinds up one's personality (hence the fragmented memories) and I would wake up a child less than two.

As a child, the memories were vivid, lucid and haunting. I would even leave my body and go back and protest to the being asking, "Why did you send me back! I didn't want to go back." and it would always send me back waking me up.

The struggle with these memories lasted up until I was 5 years old, my mother even remembering me telling her about being in a war, and describing the war. She just told me it was a bad dream. But the dream that I was telling her was me reliving the dying process, the recycle and the return over and over again.

Other fragmented memories included being on a train, looking at myself with a feeling that I was looking at a ghost in the reflection of the glass. I remembered having a black and white single page photo album with the corners of the pictures tucked in to them, with pictures of my family.

From what I could recall my Uncle owned a barber shop and we used to sit outside on the side-walk and play cards on a table. It had one of those stand-up barber poles by the door. There was a lot more memory as a child but 42 years later that's about all I can recall.

When you have these types of memories, and as a child who should know nothing about war or dying... it becomes very apparent that where did these memories come from?

Many years later, I would start to have lucid dreams and go out-of-body. During that era of my life I was able to return to this being yet again. This time it was teaching me things that lead to some of my most amazing experiences with lucid dreaming as well as showed me what these grey disks were evolving into. Each one becoming a brilliant being of light. It would show that I had many lives and the flow of these lives as to what carried me to the next all fit based on feelings, desires and underlined the motivation to return each time.

It would be further down the journey when on one return to this being, I came to realize that this being was actually myself. And that day, we merged. On that day I never returned to this dualism between my future self and my present self and knew that I had sent myself back in-order to help facilitate the evolutionary process that would lead to my becoming more than what I once was.

It closed the circuit and now I know why I am back, and why I sent myself back so the dark, fearful emotions are gone with a profound understanding and appreciation for who I am as a part of this amazing entity.

There has been so many incredible experiences that had followed, so I am really grateful in hindsight of this process. There is no fear of death in this life, only an understanding that it will come to an end, and I will return to where I come from changed and different.

So do I need to provide evidence of this to anyone? I don't think so. What matters is that it is my journey with this grand reality and what I take from it in these profound realizations.

After all, I understand how truth of this nature is realized and it cannot be passed on to someone else. Where the truth for me would represent gold, should I give it to them, it would in their eyes turn to fools gold.

The truth must be realized from within, through similar processes or we will be locked into the illusions of our human personality blind to the true self that wears that mask.
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Wow, that's detailed and pretty cool. Any idea why we are made to forget? Because to me it seems that that only allows the trap to be more effective.
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First and foremost, we do not remember our past lives because it frees us to make different choices. We can quite literally start over in our relationships with others because we are not carrying any past baggage.

For example, if you knew someone had killed you in a past life, you might not be able to forgive them or allow them to make it up to you. Similarly, if you had married someone in a past life, you or the other person might feel as if you had to do it again. Being clear of such previous associations, you are free to do what best makes sense for the person you are today.

Second, the universe wants to make sure that you really have learned your lessons. When you forget who you were and carry your character forward into a new life to meet new challenges, that is when you receive the truest test. What you have learned - and what you have not learned - become painfully apparent.

For example, I have been a commanding General in many lifetimes. The problems I most needed to overcome was my tendency to deal with others in a domineering, authoritative manner and to be singularly lacking in compassion (at times). This life gave me many chances to correct this (see the Case History). I hope I have done so (not that I need to worry: the universe always tells me when I am going wrong!).

Third, wearing the "veil of unknowingness" makes it easier for us to live our life now. Simply put, if we knew the precise relationship that we have had with everyone we love, feel friendship for, work with, or meet even casually, we would live in a state of information overload. Particularly if a person has been famous or infamous throughout history, they would never be free to live another life.

For example, I am often confronted with the shadows of my past. So many little children have come up to me and have saluted me as their commander from a past life, it is downright embarrassing (and uncomfortable given the often concerned looks on the faces of their parents, I apologize to them all!).
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Ok that makes sense, thank you, and is pretty much what I've been taught, it just makes it harder to believe in reincarnation without any memories of past lives. Guess that's why I'm hesitant to subscribe to any sort of spiritual belief beyond the existence of a creator/source God (though not the bipolar entity of the OT/NT) hf
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person A (some guy): please proof why that book is true ? can you proof it ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): but I thought that reincarnation is true ...not true ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): can you proof it without that book ?
person B (you): < bible verse >!

person A (some guy): I don't belief you
person B (you): < bible verse >, it's the absolute proof!

person A (some guy): is there any scientific backup, like the proof for reincarnation in this thread, that one DOES have some proof ?!
person B (you): it's a lie, because < bible verse >!

give up man!

laugh
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Isn't it the truth BERNARD 67:3 lol
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Nope........... it's not the truth. The fact that you think it is?
THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM.
Your brain might be kaput.
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Perhaps it is, perhaps it's not. I'm just glad to know I'm still standing on this side of the reincarnation line...and you're standing on the opposite side. BADENOV 7:7
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Anyone who is "standing" on the side of reincarnation is like a cartoon character who has run off a cliff. The cartoon character does not fall immediately. It looks at the audience, has a weird look on it's face, shows us some sign like "Oops" and then it falls.

You just showed us your sign "BADENOV 7:7".

Cartoons make me laugh.
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You don't even know what God is. You're idea of God is this external creator sitting in some heavenly cloud passing judgement.

I know God as a part of myself. Makes me wonder why you do not?
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Your denial of the King James Bible is clear. What is not clear to you is that the "god" who is part of you is not God.

Soon it will all be clear to you.

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You do know--don't you---that the King James Version of the Bible is not necessarily any better translation than many others. It was translates when King James of England asked for the translation. At the time, the religious war between Catholics and Protestants was raging. Queen Elizabeth was dead, James had taken over, Shakespeare was writing, and King James wanted a good English version. Yes, they really worked hard and did a great job on the translation; however, the reason it sounds the way it does is because it came from the same era as Shakespeare; It is not because there is something extra holy about the style of the words. King James would have been King around the 1600's in England. He was the son of Mary, Queen of Scots.
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Nothing you just said has anything to do with God's Word. Your comments focus on human events of the time period.

God was nowhere to be found in your comments. How does that happen when you are speaking about God's Word?
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My point is that the King James Version of the Bible is not necessarily more HOLY than some other good interpretations. I have often heard people say (as in your comment above) that the King James version is important. I wanted to point out that the word usage in the KJV is there because of the time of translation--not because it is holier than some other versions.
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Your denial of the King James Bible is clear. What is not clear to you is that the "god" who is part of you is not God.

Soon it will all be clear to you.

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You do know--don't you---that the King James Version of the Bible is not necessarily any better translation than many others. It was translates when King James of England asked for the translation. At the time, the religious war between Catholics and Protestants was raging. Queen Elizabeth was dead, James had taken over, Shakespeare was writing, and King James wanted a good English version. Yes, they really worked hard and did a great job on the translation; however, the reason it sounds the way it does is because it came from the same era as Shakespeare; It is not because there is something extra holy about the style of the words. King James would have been King around the 1600's in England. He was the son of Mary, Queen of Scots.
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Nothing you just said has anything to do with God's Word. Your comments focus on human events of the time period.

God was nowhere to be found in your comments. How does that happen when you are speaking about God's Word?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67658340

My point is that the King James Version of the Bible is not necessarily more HOLY than some other good interpretations. I have often heard people say (as in your comment above) that the King James version is important. I wanted to point out that the word usage in the KJV is there because of the time of translation--not because it is holier than some other versions.
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And my point is you spoke about men, rather than God.

If you know anything about God and the King James Bible, you are keeping those secrets to yourself.

The King James Bible is the Word of God. Every English version before it was incomplete and every English version after it has been corrupted.

The King James Bible is the Word of God.
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I am a Buddhist as I believe in reincarnation and this just reinforces my beliefs. I tried christianity, but I thought jesus was a bit of a joke, as I worked out he came down to teach people about ascension/eternal life; but he did it in such a confusing manner no one truly understood his message. So I became Buddhist as Buddha described ascension in an effective manner, and sacrificed everything to become Buddha.
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I am a Buddhist as I believe in reincarnation and this just reinforces my beliefs. I tried christianity, but I thought jesus was a bit of a joke, as I worked out he came down to teach people about ascension/eternal life; but he did it in such a confusing manner no one truly understood his message. So I became Buddhist as Buddha described ascension in an effective manner, and sacrificed everything to become Buddha.
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Then you are in for a BIG surprise when you see the DEAD Pope, if you don't die between now and then.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67666230


Person A - claims Bible controls people.
Person B - asks to be shown Bible verses that control us
Person A - gives no proof but leaves insults about "Bibletards".

And so it goes.

Person A is always a moron
Person B knows God's Word

Person A makes Person B laugh.......... a lot.
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clappa
especially when all of the "proof" given for reincarnation are things such as personal bliefs, supposed memories, lucid dreaming, out of body experiences etc..... ie, things that only exist in the head.....which equals no proof whatsoever.
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Boy, was this thread derailed!!! It's down right amusing watching people write wall after wall of text taken from a fuckin book written by men eager to enslave the mind and soul of the masses ignorant (lacking knowledge) enough to be blind followers. Pray tell, how would you "disprove" reincarnation without your silly book? There was a time before written language. How would you go about quoting scripture - out of thin air?
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Boy, was this thread derailed!!! It's down right amusing watching people write wall after wall of text taken from a fuckin book written by men eager to enslave the mind and soul of the masses ignorant (lacking knowledge) enough to be blind followers. Pray tell, how would you "disprove" reincarnation without your silly book? There was a time before written language. How would you go about quoting scripture - out of thin air?
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You still have anger issues. Why is that?

Don't you and everyone else get to believe in reincarnation if they want to believe it? Of course you do. The forum is a place to exchange ideas and information and we all get to decide for ourselves what we will believe.

I keep telling people that the DEAD Pope John Paul II is coming back from HELL when the 87 year old Pope Ratzinger dies. The King James Bible says that very thing.

So there is the proof. When people see that happen, they will know that the King James Bible is true. There is plenty of proof all around us now, but people like you don't believe it.

When the DEAD Pope comes back, what will you believe then?
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Boy, was this thread derailed!!! It's down right amusing watching people write wall after wall of text taken from a fuckin book written by men eager to enslave the mind and soul of the masses ignorant (lacking knowledge) enough to be blind followers. Pray tell, how would you "disprove" reincarnation without your silly book? There was a time before written language. How would you go about quoting scripture - out of thin air?
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no more amusing than it is to see you perturbed beebee that so many aren't falling for deceptive junk you continually post....

obviously people aren't putting down truth (bible) for your phony goddess junk and such, nor your twisted views of the bible......which is a wonderful thing!

and again, there is no "proof" of reincarnation....lots of conjecture and speculations and supposed "memories"----but no undeniable proof.
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:grizzy: Reincarnation is a lie and Dr Stevenson will have to answer for it one day if he dies in his sins. No doubt there are a number of people who prefer to believe lies like this because they hate God and they will follow this liar into the pit. Here is the biblical story of the rich man and Lazarus.

THE TRAP... [link to chick.com (secure)]
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Praise be unto thee for thy testimony of truth!

Though it seemingly comes off as brutish & cruel, ...

... a TRULY CALLOUS CONSCIENCE would be the naive, childish, oblivious "idealism" that HEDONIST, infinite opportunities for failure exist.

In order for Absolute Evil to exist (to create all Wheat that can thrive despite Weeds), a CLEAR LITMUS TEST stands -- Destructive vs Beneficial, Selfless vs Selfish, as the distinguishing factor for creating the rare _PRESENT_ which we are gifted to experience in the _NOW_ ...

Understanding that we only exist because Absolute, Unrepentant "Evil" was let to exist is CRITICAL to realizing the URGENCY we should govern the obligations of our daily affairs with.

Matthew 6:34
Take therefore no thought for tomorrow: for tomorrow shall take thought of the things for itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
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Boy, was this thread derailed!!! It's down right amusing watching people write wall after wall of text taken from a fuckin book written by men eager to enslave the mind and soul of the masses ignorant (lacking knowledge) enough to be blind followers. Pray tell, how would you "disprove" reincarnation without your silly book? There was a time before written language. How would you go about quoting scripture - out of thin air?
 Quoting: beebee


You still have anger issues. Why is that?

Don't you and everyone else get to believe in reincarnation if they want to believe it? Of course you do. The forum is a place to exchange ideas and information and we all get to decide for ourselves what we will believe.

I keep telling people that the DEAD Pope John Paul II is coming back from HELL when the 87 year old Pope Ratzinger dies. The King James Bible says that very thing.

So there is the proof. When people see that happen, they will know that the King James Bible is true. There is plenty of proof all around us now, but people like you don't believe it.

When the DEAD Pope comes back, what will you believe then?

.
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wtfdid

wtfdid

wtfdid
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Boy, was this thread derailed!!! It's down right amusing watching people write wall after wall of text taken from a fuckin book written by men eager to enslave the mind and soul of the masses ignorant (lacking knowledge) enough to be blind followers. Pray tell, how would you "disprove" reincarnation without your silly book? There was a time before written language. How would you go about quoting scripture - out of thin air?
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You still have anger issues. Why is that?

Don't you and everyone else get to believe in reincarnation if they want to believe it? Of course you do. The forum is a place to exchange ideas and information and we all get to decide for ourselves what we will believe.

I keep telling people that the DEAD Pope John Paul II is coming back from HELL when the 87 year old Pope Ratzinger dies. The King James Bible says that very thing.

So there is the proof. When people see that happen, they will know that the King James Bible is true. There is plenty of proof all around us now, but people like you don't believe it.

When the DEAD Pope comes back, what will you believe then?

.
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wtfdid

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That's a non-answer beebee.

Anger will kill you before the DEAD Pope shows up if you are not careful. Then where will you be?
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Boy, was this thread derailed!!! It's down right amusing watching people write wall after wall of text taken from a fuckin book written by men eager to enslave the mind and soul of the masses ignorant (lacking knowledge) enough to be blind followers. Pray tell, how would you "disprove" reincarnation without your silly book? There was a time before written language. How would you go about quoting scripture - out of thin air?
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no more amusing than it is to see you perturbed beebee that so many aren't falling for deceptive junk you continually post....

obviously people aren't putting down truth (bible) for your phony goddess junk and such, nor your twisted views of the bible......which is a wonderful thing!

and again, there is no "proof" of reincarnation....lots of conjecture and speculations and supposed "memories"----but no undeniable proof.
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1 - This is not my thread.

2 - Goddess junk?
“…. speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee:…” Job 12:8

The Judeo-Christian God's female soul, source of his true power is Sophia. Sophia is found throughout the wisdom books of the Bible. The Jews revered Sophia. King Solomon even put Her right in the Temple, in the form of the Goddess Asherah.

"She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her; those who hold her fast will be blessed." Proverbs 3:18

There is lots of proof of reincarnation. It's right in your bible. YOU just don't want to see it. Most of it was removed from the ORIGINAL in 554 A.D. through a fuckin vote!! Go do some research and you'll find it, but of course, you won't do that because you don't want to know!!

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Boy, was this thread derailed!!! It's down right amusing watching people write wall after wall of text taken from a fuckin book written by men eager to enslave the mind and soul of the masses ignorant (lacking knowledge) enough to be blind followers. Pray tell, how would you "disprove" reincarnation without your silly book? There was a time before written language. How would you go about quoting scripture - out of thin air?
 Quoting: beebee


You still have anger issues. Why is that?

Don't you and everyone else get to believe in reincarnation if they want to believe it? Of course you do. The forum is a place to exchange ideas and information and we all get to decide for ourselves what we will believe.

I keep telling people that the DEAD Pope John Paul II is coming back from HELL when the 87 year old Pope Ratzinger dies. The King James Bible says that very thing.

So there is the proof. When people see that happen, they will know that the King James Bible is true. There is plenty of proof all around us now, but people like you don't believe it.

When the DEAD Pope comes back, what will you believe then?

.
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wtfdid

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That's a non-answer beebee.

Anger will kill you before the DEAD Pope shows up if you are not careful. Then where will you be?
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God must love stupid people; He made so many. Unknown
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You still have anger issues. Why is that?

Don't you and everyone else get to believe in reincarnation if they want to believe it? Of course you do. The forum is a place to exchange ideas and information and we all get to decide for ourselves what we will believe.

I keep telling people that the DEAD Pope John Paul II is coming back from HELL when the 87 year old Pope Ratzinger dies. The King James Bible says that very thing.

So there is the proof. When people see that happen, they will know that the King James Bible is true. There is plenty of proof all around us now, but people like you don't believe it.

When the DEAD Pope comes back, what will you believe then?

.
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wtfdid

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That's a non-answer beebee.

Anger will kill you before the DEAD Pope shows up if you are not careful. Then where will you be?
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God must love stupid people; He made so many. Unknown
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And you have elevated yourself to be their queen.
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wtfdid

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That's a non-answer beebee.

Anger will kill you before the DEAD Pope shows up if you are not careful. Then where will you be?
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God must love stupid people; He made so many. Unknown
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And you have elevated yourself to be their queen.
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In your religion, women are beneath men. Therefore, I cannot be elevated above you, their god.

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