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BREAKING! NEW OBAMA REGS: 20 Years in Jail and $1 Million Fines For Gun SPEECH (blogs/forums/ETC)

 
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That's right folks....just TALKING about guns online could now be illegal.

Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down under rules proposed by the State Department, amounting to a "gag order on firearm-related speech," the National Rifle Association is warning.

In updating regulations governing international arms sales, State is demanding that anyone who puts technical details about arms and ammo on the web first get the OK from the federal government — or face a fine of up to $1 million and 20 years in jail.


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bump
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Through passion, I gain strength.
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Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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next is knives and fingernail clippers.
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ochange bump
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And still, we do nothing.
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The next phase, even THINKING ABOUT GUNS lands you 20 years in jail and a 1 million dollar fine.

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Regulations are not laws. Even if statutes are drafted, they do not supersede the constitution which is absolute until amended. The 2nd amendment stands and in truth, unrestricted. 1st amendment, freedom of press and speech. Remain defiant to the end and let not these despots have their way.

As to treaties:

"A treaty, once passed, can not be repealed". False.

Treaties do not marginalize or supersede U.S. Constitution.
Treaties cannot alter or amend the Constitution.

Treaties can be nullified by statute by congress or state legislature when the treaty is destructive to the people. Self preservation overrides treaty obligation performance.

The Supreme Court has acknowledged constitutional supremacy versus treaty in Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at page 17.
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Since when does the State Department have the power to write law let alone enact it?

The fed-gov is a clear and present danger to We, the People.
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And still, we do nothing.
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This is barely a blip on the average person's radar and I think its quite astounding.
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Relentless...they want your guns!
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So thanks to the new FCC rules, they can pull shit like this. Since Obama can't ban guns, he'll just ban you from talking about it. Congratulations America, your inability to fight for your rights and allowing communities to be destroyed is your own fault.
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well, bout time to sell all my useless junk and buy more GUNS.
Something is coming. Guard your heart and watch the wind..
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Only a traitor would do such a thing. How about losing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of arm where ISIS can find them, or gun running weapons to Mexico for the cartels, NOTHING?
Disclosure.
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I didn't visit the link, but assuming what you have posted is accurate, this is clearly motivated by the desire to suppress information like plans and specifications for 3d printing. As is typical the laws will be made broad so as to allow them to be applied to whomever they choose for a host of "violations". Tyrannical bastards!
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free speech

why is ppl fucking wit the constitution ? its the law.
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That's right folks....just TALKING about guns online could now be illegal.

Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down under rules proposed by the State Department, amounting to a "gag order on firearm-related speech," the National Rifle Association is warning.

In updating regulations governing international arms sales, State is demanding that anyone who puts technical details about arms and ammo on the web first get the OK from the federal government — or face a fine of up to $1 million and 20 years in jail.


[link to www.washingtonexaminer.com]


 Quoting: ShillShank Reduction


Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down


Could be does not mean it is going to happen....and it won't
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Relentless...they want your guns!
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Quite honestly, if 'they' can pass legislation such as this, we've no use for our guns, as it's quite obvious there is nothing so serious as to make us enact our 2nd Amendment.

We may as well just turn them in, be this the case.
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Is the GOV subject to the laws of the land ?
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Regulations are not laws. Even if statutes are drafted, they do not supersede the constitution which is absolute until amended. The 2nd amendment stands and in truth, unrestricted. 1st amendment, freedom of press and speech. Remain defiant to the end and let not these despots have their way.

As to treaties:

"A treaty, once passed, can not be repealed". False.

Treaties do not marginalize or supersede U.S. Constitution.
Treaties cannot alter or amend the Constitution.

Treaties can be nullified by statute by congress or state legislature when the treaty is destructive to the people. Self preservation overrides treaty obligation performance.

The Supreme Court has acknowledged constitutional supremacy versus treaty in Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at page 17.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68874475


Uhm yeah. So tell that to the Feds when they come knocking on your door. Because they ALWAYS give credence to the constitution. This administration NEVER EVER breaks the constitution.

And when they laugh in your face, I hope you have 5 years and 5 million to fight your case in court.

whatever
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That's right folks....just TALKING about guns online could now be illegal.

Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down under rules proposed by the State Department, amounting to a "gag order on firearm-related speech," the National Rifle Association is warning.

In updating regulations governing international arms sales, State is demanding that anyone who puts technical details about arms and ammo on the web first get the OK from the federal government — or face a fine of up to $1 million and 20 years in jail.


[link to www.washingtonexaminer.com]


 Quoting: ShillShank Reduction


Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down


Could be does not mean it is going to happen....and it won't
 Quoting: NZREva 40295562


So why did the State department SPECIFICALLY take the time to make these changes....and DEMAND they be included??? Just for shits and giggles?????
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It's just weird I couldn't find anything in those regs that would give you jail time for beheading speech.
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This is the same law they used to try to shut down the 3d printed gun files. The government is already being sued over that fiasco.
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I didn't visit the link, but assuming what you have posted is accurate, this is clearly motivated by the desire to suppress information like plans and specifications for 3d printing. As is typical the laws will be made broad so as to allow them to be applied to whomever they choose for a host of "violations". Tyrannical bastards!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69031954


I agree, that seems to be the aim. But the current language is very broad and could be used against someone who also has a gun review on their YT page that shows technical aspects of the gun.
So say they want to take a dissident out who happens to have some gun reviews...BOOM, now its easy to use this law against them too.
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Spreading freedom and democracy with arms abroad while restricting it at home...so who are the real enemies of freedom and democracy ouncsam
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That's right folks....just TALKING about guns online could now be illegal.

Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down under rules proposed by the State Department, amounting to a "gag order on firearm-related speech," the National Rifle Association is warning.

In updating regulations governing international arms sales, State is demanding that anyone who puts technical details about arms and ammo on the web first get the OK from the federal government — or face a fine of up to $1 million and 20 years in jail.


[link to www.washingtonexaminer.com]


 Quoting: ShillShank Reduction


Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down


Could be does not mean it is going to happen....and it won't
 Quoting: NZREva 40295562


Id have to agree. Not gonna happen.
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With less than 2 years left of his reign (technically anyway). Don't be surprise, it's anything goes. Just be prepare for it.
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That's right folks....just TALKING about guns online could now be illegal.

Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down under rules proposed by the State Department, amounting to a "gag order on firearm-related speech," the National Rifle Association is warning.

In updating regulations governing international arms sales, State is demanding that anyone who puts technical details about arms and ammo on the web first get the OK from the federal government — or face a fine of up to $1 million and 20 years in jail.


[link to www.washingtonexaminer.com]


 Quoting: ShillShank Reduction


Commonly used and unregulated internet discussions and videos about guns and ammo could be closed down


Could be does not mean it is going to happen....and it won't
 Quoting: NZREva 40295562


Id have to agree. Not gonna happen.
 Quoting: Mr.Liberty1776


See my post above. They will likely use this against 3D gun printers as well anyone causing problems. I doubt EVERY person who has a video will get arrested, but it's still the FACT they are tweaking the laws to ALLOW them to use it when it suits their agenda. Make sense?
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More bullshit bedwetting by the NRA. Send them some more wasted donations.

The 1st and 2nd amendments are very clear and don't need parasites like the NRA or supreme court for interpretation. Only a concon can change them and there cannot be one in secret that stands as legitimate.
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Thread: Gun Blogs, videos,,web forums threatened by new Obama anti gun regulations
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