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England's firefighters to take on role of home health nurses and social workers
Somehow I don't think the firefighters are too keen on this idea . . .


Firefighters to ease pressure on NHS by conducting health checks in people's homes
Firefighters throughout England are preparing to support the NHS by conducting hundreds of thousands of health checks in people’s homes . . . The NHS will “piggyback” on the 670,000 home visits carried out by the fire service every year. As well as checking smoke alarms and fire risks, firefighters will now deal with trip and fall hazards, remind people to get their flu vaccinations and make sure homes are kept warm over the winter.
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New “safe and well” checks could even involve firefighters discussing health matters such as weight, smoking and mental well-being with people, while they will also seek to refer people to appropriate local support for issues such as unemployment, claiming benefits, and drug and alcohol schemes.
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Part of our ‘safe and well’ check will include checking there is adequate heating, adequate insulation and then referring people to their housing provider or local schemes to ensure they are claiming and in receipt of the benefits to which they are entitled to ensure they are safe and warm during the winter. That seems entirely sensible to us.”

more at link: [link to www.independent.co.uk]
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Re: England's firefighters to take on role of home health nurses and social workers
yesterday i posted a thread about how they are gonna be cops too.

basically, what ALL of the emergency services are being told, in a backhand way, is doom is coming, and you will do EVERY job currently being done by three separate services, whether they like it or not, assuming they survive, of course

i bet cops are getting basic fire fighting training at the moment, behind the scenes, wouldn't surprise me at all

hang on, here's one, from April this year, who can do all THREE!

[link to www.theguardian.com]

rofl

no messages being sent here, eh?
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I can just some big, strong guy/girl getting done with dealing with a fire, or riot, or explosion -- and then going to some apartment complex to remind folks to get their flu shot and to see if they have weather stripping around their door.
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+5 and pin recommendation

Are they supposed to sit down with individuals and help them fill out welfare application forms before or after they are called to the scene of a fire?
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[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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I haven't found anything yet about a pay hike for all this extra workload and paperwork . . .
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Is it my imagination or are firefighters symbolic to the twatsthatbe?
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09/13/2015 10:54 AM
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Well, given that we are heading into another world wide war, is it not surprising that the establishment would want to see some cross training in all branches of the emergency services, indeed I see this as an indicator of what is coming.. sad times though.
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They'll be able to wear different hats when posing for a calendar!!
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They started doing this in Brazil over two decades ago. It hasn't worked out well. I was a paramedic for years and they tried this shit with us and it was a fucking disaster!

People see a fucking uniform and they lock up. And nowadays more than ever, people freeze at the sight of a badge. You go up to someone's door in an EMS uniform, which many services are required to wear a badge, and you are likely to get your fucking head shot off!

(Note: Many departments require their medics to wear these absurd polyester (fire hazard) uniforms with badges and brass. It's because some of the higher ups want to look professional. All that badge does, is give a criminal something easy to aim at! Me, I like a nice t-shirt with the words FIRE or EMS in big yellow letters.)
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Hey -- thanks for the pin!

I do think this is an idiotic step in some bureaucratic wet dream. So many professions are stock full of grand people doing their doggondest day after day, then those good people see the role they prepared for become so twisted.

Give the firemen work days and nights now filled with hundreds of thousands of refugees and peppered with unpredictable terrorism and violence, then give them a nanny's apron to go with their fire boots.
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Somehow I don't think the firefighters are too keen on this idea . . .


Firefighters to ease pressure on NHS by conducting health checks in people's homes
Firefighters throughout England are preparing to support the NHS by conducting hundreds of thousands of health checks in people’s homes . . . The NHS will “piggyback” on the 670,000 home visits carried out by the fire service every year. As well as checking smoke alarms and fire risks, firefighters will now deal with trip and fall hazards, remind people to get their flu vaccinations and make sure homes are kept warm over the winter.
. . .
New “safe and well” checks could even involve firefighters discussing health matters such as weight, smoking and mental well-being with people, while they will also seek to refer people to appropriate local support for issues such as unemployment, claiming benefits, and drug and alcohol schemes.
. . .
Part of our ‘safe and well’ check will include checking there is adequate heating, adequate insulation and then referring people to their housing provider or local schemes to ensure they are claiming and in receipt of the benefits to which they are entitled to ensure they are safe and warm during the winter. That seems entirely sensible to us.”
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sounds like the only thing missing is the underwear check
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England?

Don't you think the English firefighters should to take on the role of dentists?


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Any person working with law enforcement is at risk when going to someone's home. Weapons, drugs, drinking, domestics . . . all sorts of situations could be immediately present and are a source of immediate stress to the occupant. I'm sure the visits are pre-arranged but probably are often rescheduled per the nature of a fireman's primary job. Can you imagine some of the crummy situations they've worked lately and then be asked how many home visits they got done that day?
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seems fair enough they are going anyway so why not?
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Any person working with law enforcement is at risk when going to someone's home. Weapons, drugs, drinking, domestics . . . all sorts of situations could be immediately present and are a source of immediate stress to the occupant. I'm sure the visits are pre-arranged but probably are often rescheduled per the nature of a fireman's primary job. Can you imagine some of the crummy situations they've worked lately and then be asked how many home visits they got done that day?
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Yes I can imagine it, that's why this is so appalling.
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Are they gonna search for illegal pointy knives too?

lmao
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Re: England's firefighters to take on role of home health nurses and social workers
yesterday i posted a thread about how they are gonna be cops too.

basically, what ALL of the emergency services are being told, in a backhand way, is doom is coming, and you will do EVERY job currently being done by three separate services, whether they like it or not, assuming they survive, of course

i bet cops are getting basic fire fighting training at the moment, behind the scenes, wouldn't surprise me at all

hang on, here's one, from April this year, who can do all THREE!

[link to www.theguardian.com]

rofl

no messages being sent here, eh?
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In the Navy I learned you can do a LOT of jobs.
Even the most basic ship board sailor learns fire fighting, no reason this can't be multitasked. Cops already do wellness checks. Time to spread the wealth. It only makes sense.
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I haven't found anything yet about a pay hike for all this extra workload and paperwork . . .
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You know what - its about time really. As I said if Sailors can multitask - individuals in the safety service sector can as well.
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They started doing this in Brazil over two decades ago. It hasn't worked out well. I was a paramedic for years and they tried this shit with us and it was a fucking disaster!

People see a fucking uniform and they lock up. And nowadays more than ever, people freeze at the sight of a badge. You go up to someone's door in an EMS uniform, which many services are required to wear a badge, and you are likely to get your fucking head shot off!

(Note: Many departments require their medics to wear these absurd polyester (fire hazard) uniforms with badges and brass. It's because some of the higher ups want to look professional. All that badge does, is give a criminal something easy to aim at! Me, I like a nice t-shirt with the words FIRE or EMS in big yellow letters.)
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Wow, you have some problems in your country - its the opposite of our problems and supposedly we are the ones with gun problems.
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I would quit. Let the fucking place burn. Your countries government is gay as fuck. They suck each other off every day and think of ways of trying to fuck you. I think it's a fetish. Again it's only a small percent and you still let them run you. I think they all might have won turning you into girly men.
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Any person working with law enforcement is at risk when going to someone's home. Weapons, drugs, drinking, domestics . . . all sorts of situations could be immediately present and are a source of immediate stress to the occupant. I'm sure the visits are pre-arranged but probably are often rescheduled per the nature of a fireman's primary job. Can you imagine some of the crummy situations they've worked lately and then be asked how many home visits they got done that day?
 Quoting: bluebonnet


Maybe the fire trucks will spare room for Armory equipment and they will arm them when they respond to areas they are shot in.

I remember they had this problem in Chicago a long time ago. Start a fire, call for help, shot the fire fighters sniper style. Maybe it will help keep them all safer if they multitask across specialties.

But then again - - - -
Maybe they are just creating a "home force"? hmmm
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Can't you picture it -- firefighter helps put out some poor guy's burning house -- the guy's standing there with the shakes, making sure everyone's OK, maybe has a cig hanging out of his mouth and wishing he had a stiff drink -- then the firefighter has to ask him about his weight, whether or not he smokes, and if he has any mental health issues.
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Blue bonnet that is funny.

They may do a better job than the SS though.

Could hardly be worse.
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Who the fuck came up with the idea to make firefighters dress up like nurses? the fucking lgbt fags have gone too far with there bullshit.
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Can't you picture it -- firefighter helps put out some poor guy's burning house -- the guy's standing there with the shakes, making sure everyone's OK, maybe has a cig hanging out of his mouth and wishing he had a stiff drink -- then the firefighter has to ask him about his weight, whether or not he smokes, and if he has any mental health issues.
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It can't be pictured because that is not what would happen.
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I haven't found anything yet about a pay hike for all this extra workload and paperwork . . .
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But where will they find the time to wash the trucks,cook&sleep.
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But where will they find the time to wash the trucks,cook&sleep.
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Ix-nay on the eep-slay
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But where will they find the time to wash the trucks,cook&sleep.
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Ix-nay on the eep-slay
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You made me spit my drink.

gaah

lol
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So, are they also getting three paychecks? If yes, they're really going to be raking in the dough.





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