I just got back from Social Security and have a question. How can people that never worked in the US collect benefits?

I'm not even 24 yet, but I am planning on NOT having social security there for me.

I am just bumping this cause it is already on the second page.


I know the whole spiel that the economy sucks and doom and all, but I am doing okay for myself now.

Liberals, that's how.

This is all I can find, but it's reverse of what I am asking
and who from the US really retires overseas?
It seems like it's set up knowing this, and is biased against Americans because not as many Americans leave as immigrants come here


Retire To India: Social security for Overseas retirees

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American citizens who retire abroad are eligible for social security benefits.

Of course, everything about social security is subject to change in the coming years. But it is good to know that overseas retirees are not shortchanged on this (as is the case for Medicare, which I will cover in a separate post).
Here are the important facts about receiving social security payments while living outside the US:

If you are a US citizen, you are eligible for social security retirement benefits (provided you have worked for a minimum of 10 years), just as if you stayed in the US.
If you are not a US citizen, your eligibility to receive social security benefits depends on which country you are a citizen of. [If you are an Indian citizen, you are eligible to receive benefits provided you have lived in the US for at least 10 years or earned at least 40 credits under the social security system.]
Social Security payments may be deposited directly into your account at a US financial institution. This is the most convenient way to receive social security payments. They may also be directly deposited into accounts in some other countries. However, India is not one of them.
The Social Security benefits paid to a US citizen outside the US are taxed in the same manner as those paid to a US citizen living in the US. In addition, some foreign governments also tax US Social Security benefits. [Under the Indo-US Double Taxation Avoidance Agreement (DTAA), India does not tax social security payments.]

Who Never Receives Social Security Benefits?

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We estimate that about 4 percent of individuals aged 62–84 in 2010 will never receive Social Security benefits. This article describes the prevalence, demographic characteristics, and economic well-being of this group. The never-beneficiary population generally has lower education levels and higher proportions of women, Hispanics, immigrants, the never-married, and widows than the beneficiary population. Never-beneficiaries have a far higher poverty rate (about 44 percent) than current and future beneficiaries (about 4 percent). Ninety-five percent of never-beneficiaries are individuals whose earnings histories are insufficient to qualify for benefits. Late-arriving immigrants and infrequent workers comprise the vast majority of these insufficient earners. Late-arriving immigrants have a poverty rate of about 43 percent, and are particularly reliant on income from household coresidents. Infrequent workers have a poverty rate of about 57 percent, and are particularly reliant on Supplemental Security Income.

SSI...SSDI. Both have nothing to do with actual SS, but the SS in the acronym confuses a lot of people. All these immigrants, legal and illegal, collect some forms of social services, legal can collect everything I believe, although my understanding is not SS.

Not SS unless they've worked the legal minimum.

So they are ENTITLED to something, after NEVER working for the good of the US?

They can receive without contributing?

If you find something that spells this out, please link to it.

I really want to understand this

YES

OP,

google SSI and SSDI, check out wiki. Yes, legal immigrants can collect, and illegal also collect many social services.

Thanks!


In conversation at lunch, the little lady at the desk said one guy would fly people from somewhere in northern South America, and charge them $10,000 each to do the paperwork and all.
I guess that's how the rest of their countrymen find out how to milk us dry.

SSDI refers to the Social Security Disability Insurance program. It is tied to the Social Security retirement program, but is for workers who become disabled before retirement age.

[link to www.disabilitysecrets.com]






Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a Federal income supplement program funded by general tax revenues (not Social Security taxes):

It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income; and
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It provides cash to meet basic needs for food, clothing, and shelter.

[link to www.ssa.gov (secure)]



Neither really makes it clear to me.

Shut up and pay your taxes.

You are a racist and homophobe for bringing this up.

Don't do it again.

I mentioned nothing about homos, and I was just stating what I observed ALL DAY LONG with my own eyes.

Do I need them checked?
Perhaps I need the glasses from "They Live" to see the truth?

Sadly, I have no choice but to pay for now

Yeah, you're right, my bad. SSDI is definitely seperate, but SSDI and SSI both apply to 'disabled', and who is disabled and what's considered a disability is wide open. Many people would be surprised who can collect for their alleged disability. Both programs are the new, 21st century welfare, completely federalized.

You are a racist, homophobic, Islamophobic, misogynist for even QUESTIONING the agenda. I'm gonna take a wild guess and go way out on a limb here and assume you are a WHITE MAN.

Just remember, it's the WOMEN and their manginas who have VOTED for all this shit.

They were probably permanent residents applying for SSI.

You can get SSI if you are blind, over 65, or disabled...........and your income is below a certain level...........and your assets below 2,000 (for singles).

It is for poor people......who fit into one of the above 3 categories.

You have to go through and extensive application and evaluation process to prove that you are disabled.


For SSI.......it is not SS funds..........but rather general taxpayer revenue.


The SSI program is administered by the SS admin......even though it does not involve SS funds.

Is there anything stopping them from suing multiple aliases to make multiple claims and collect multiple checks?

The same way it's possible for a mixed-race man born in Kenya, who went to college on money he got claiming to be a foreign student, lied about being a constitutional lawyer and also why he and his wife had to give up their law licenses, to be elected US president - twice.

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There are many reasons for bring IN.The social security office and op has no clue why anyone was there, because your chairs are far froM the windows and only people who's number is called is at the window. If he was talking to someone at work about the private things others were there then she is totally unprofessional and should be fired. Op is an Asshat Assumer , another nosy nobody who has no clue what's going on so he makes up shit. Get a life.

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You milk the system?

You are okay with others milking it?

What do you think about welfare for able bodied people that use drugs and drink all their welfare away?

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Democrats. Democrats make it possible. Vote Republican.

Along with SSI they are eligible for food stamps. The freebies just keep on coming, courtesy and the hard work of the U.S. tax payers.

Food Stamp Applications

SSI recipients in all States, except California,29 may be eligible for food stamps. Under agreements entered into by the Department of Agriculture and SSA, Social Security offices notify Social Security and SSI applicants and recipients of their potential benefits under the Food Stamp Program and make food stamp applications available to them.

[link to www.socialsecurity.gov (secure)]

The main difference between Social Security Disability (SSD, or SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is the fact that SSD is available to workers who have accumulated a sufficient number of work credits, while SSI disability benefits are available to low-income individuals who have either never worked or who haven't earned enough work credits to qualify for SSD.

[link to www.disabilitysecrets.com]



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Last Edited by Terrebonne on 02/03/2016 10:19 PM