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New York State proposes giving cops Textalyzer, a device that scans your phone to see if you've been texting while driving

 
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New York State proposes giving cops Textalyzer, a device that scans your phone to see if you've been texting while driving
Texting and Driving? Watch Out for the Textalyzer

The most provocative idea, from lawmakers in New York, is to give police officers a new device that is the digital equivalent of the Breathalyzer — a roadside test called the Textalyzer.

It would work like this: An officer arriving at the scene of a crash could ask for the phones of any drivers involved and use the Textalyzer to tap into the operating system to check for recent activity.

The technology could determine whether a driver had used the phone to text, email or do anything else that is forbidden under New York’s hands-free driving laws, which prohibit drivers from holding phones to their ear. Failure to hand over a phone could lead to the suspension of a driver’s license, similar to the consequences for refusing a Breathalyzer.


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Fine.

Fuck you if you text while driving.

Your license should be gone for holding a phone to your ear while driving.

You don't care about your safety or the others around you.. then I do not care about your rights.
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I have hands free text capability in my truck. I talk and the vehicle does it's best to figure out what the fuck I just said and texts it to whoever I say.
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The world revolved fine with no cell phones.

People are socially retarded now a days.
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Doesn't go far enough. If some prick is creeping along in front of you and wavering all over the road because the driver is texting someone about some irrelevant bollocks, we should have the right ram their stupid phones up their fucking arses!
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The world revolved fine with no cell phones.

Canadians are socially retarded now a days.
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Fixed it for you.
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How will they know if you were stopped at a light? Or pulled over at the side of the road? Or had just gotten on the road? Etc.
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How will they know if you were stopped at a light? Or pulled over at the side of the road? Or had just gotten on the road? Etc.
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CHP issues reminder that texting at red lights is against California law

California's Department of Motor Vehicles sent a tweet reminding motorists:

"While the engines on, keep your devices off."


[link to www.ktvu.com]
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I leave my cell phone off and at home when traveling for just that reason . CB radio is all I need . Fuck these tracking devices.
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Re: New York State proposes giving cops Textalyzer, a device that scans your phone to see if you've been texting while driving
Texting and Driving? Watch Out for the Textalyzer

The most provocative idea, from lawmakers in New York, is to give police officers a new device that is the digital equivalent of the Breathalyzer — a roadside test called the Textalyzer.

It would work like this: An officer arriving at the scene of a crash could ask for the phones of any drivers involved and use the Textalyzer to tap into the operating system to check for recent activity.

The technology could determine whether a driver had used the phone to text, email or do anything else that is forbidden under New York’s hands-free driving laws, which prohibit drivers from holding phones to their ear. Failure to hand over a phone could lead to the suspension of a driver’s license, similar to the consequences for refusing a Breathalyzer.


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 Quoting: gmigriff


Okay this is fucked!

There is a problem with texting while driving

Opening up your personal info to LE strangers is NOT the solution!

these mother fuckers use anything and everything to invade your liberty

True solution would to coordinate software between the phone company with your vehicles onboard computer
to either disable texting while driving or alert via some interop layer / system without being forced to invade your privacy.

you setup software "specifically" to focus on and look for the defined issue. Too much power given to individuals who have proved time and again that power corrupts absolutely.
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Texting and Driving? Watch Out for the Textalyzer

The most provocative idea, from lawmakers in New York, is to give police officers a new device that is the digital equivalent of the Breathalyzer — a roadside test called the Textalyzer.

It would work like this: An officer arriving at the scene of a crash could ask for the phones of any drivers involved and use the Textalyzer to tap into the operating system to check for recent activity.

The technology could determine whether a driver had used the phone to text, email or do anything else that is forbidden under New York’s hands-free driving laws, which prohibit drivers from holding phones to their ear. Failure to hand over a phone could lead to the suspension of a driver’s license, similar to the consequences for refusing a Breathalyzer.


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 Quoting: gmigriff


Okay this is fucked!

There is a problem with texting while driving

Opening up your personal info to LE strangers is NOT the solution!

these mother fuckers use anything and everything to invade your liberty

True solution would to coordinate software between the phone company with your vehicles onboard computer
to either disable texting while driving or alert via some interop layer / system without being forced to invade your privacy.

you setup software "specifically" to focus on and look for the defined issue. Too much power given to individuals who have proved time and again that power corrupts absolutely.
 Quoting: abalienari non possu


Agreed. The article claims the device would only detect activity and not have access to personal data, which very well could be bullshit.
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Texting and Driving? Watch Out for the Textalyzer

The most provocative idea, from lawmakers in New York, is to give police officers a new device that is the digital equivalent of the Breathalyzer — a roadside test called the Textalyzer.

It would work like this: An officer arriving at the scene of a crash could ask for the phones of any drivers involved and use the Textalyzer to tap into the operating system to check for recent activity.

The technology could determine whether a driver had used the phone to text, email or do anything else that is forbidden under New York’s hands-free driving laws, which prohibit drivers from holding phones to their ear. Failure to hand over a phone could lead to the suspension of a driver’s license, similar to the consequences for refusing a Breathalyzer.


[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: gmigriff


Okay this is fucked!

There is a problem with texting while driving

Opening up your personal info to LE strangers is NOT the solution!

these mother fuckers use anything and everything to invade your liberty

True solution would to coordinate software between the phone company with your vehicles onboard computer
to either disable texting while driving or alert via some interop layer / system without being forced to invade your privacy.

you setup software "specifically" to focus on and look for the defined issue. Too much power given to individuals who have proved time and again that power corrupts absolutely.
 Quoting: abalienari non possu


Agreed. The article claims the device would only detect activity and not have access to personal data, which very well could be bullshit.
 Quoting: gmigriff


If they wanted to stop the problem they would stop the problem.

They don't. Their solution shows us they only want to find new ways to generate revenue!

disable texting while driving if you want to stop people dying. simple as that

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How old are you??
Why are you not in school??
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Soon, the first thing they do will be confiscate your phone, any tablets or computers and image them for future reference.

Then see if you've been to a bar, or any criminal hot spots. Check your texting habits, maybe read your last 10 emails.
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Re: New York State proposes giving cops Textalyzer, a device that scans your phone to see if you've been texting while driving
Texting and Driving? Watch Out for the Textalyzer

The most provocative idea, from lawmakers in New York, is to give police officers a new device that is the digital equivalent of the Breathalyzer — a roadside test called the Textalyzer.

It would work like this: An officer arriving at the scene of a crash could ask for the phones of any drivers involved and use the Textalyzer to tap into the operating system to check for recent activity.

The technology could determine whether a driver had used the phone to text, email or do anything else that is forbidden under New York’s hands-free driving laws, which prohibit drivers from holding phones to their ear. Failure to hand over a phone could lead to the suspension of a driver’s license, similar to the consequences for refusing a Breathalyzer.


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Cops = street pirates.
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Fine.

Fuck you if you text while driving.

Your license should be gone for holding a phone to your ear while driving.

You don't care about your safety or the others around you.. then I do not care about your rights.
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Yep.
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Texting and Driving? Watch Out for the Textalyzer

The most provocative idea, from lawmakers in New York, is to give police officers a new device that is the digital equivalent of the Breathalyzer — a roadside test called the Textalyzer.

It would work like this: An officer arriving at the scene of a crash could ask for the phones of any drivers involved and use the Textalyzer to tap into the operating system to check for recent activity.

The technology could determine whether a driver had used the phone to text, email or do anything else that is forbidden under New York’s hands-free driving laws, which prohibit drivers from holding phones to their ear. Failure to hand over a phone could lead to the suspension of a driver’s license, similar to the consequences for refusing a Breathalyzer.


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Sounds like unwarranted search and seizure.
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And in 2 months there will be a billion dollar app selling at $5.99 a pop that will delete the last 5 minutes of data from your OS at the click of a button.

Wish I had the skills to develop it but sadly no. I guarantee somehow, someway the market will figure out how to cash in on this...

Or maybe they already have and just need to give the public the incentive to buy.

It's all a giant shell game.
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So Apple can say fuck you to the feds with a court order but the peons have to hand their phones over no questions asked?
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Texting and Driving? Watch Out for the Textalyzer

The most provocative idea, from lawmakers in New York, is to give police officers a new device that is the digital equivalent of the Breathalyzer — a roadside test called the Textalyzer.

It would work like this: An officer arriving at the scene of a crash could ask for the phones of any drivers involved and use the Textalyzer to tap into the operating system to check for recent activity.

The technology could determine whether a driver had used the phone to text, email or do anything else that is forbidden under New York’s hands-free driving laws, which prohibit drivers from holding phones to their ear. Failure to hand over a phone could lead to the suspension of a driver’s license, similar to the consequences for refusing a Breathalyzer.


[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: gmigriff


Okay this is fucked!

There is a problem with texting while driving

Opening up your personal info to LE strangers is NOT the solution!

these mother fuckers use anything and everything to invade your liberty

True solution would to coordinate software between the phone company with your vehicles onboard computer
to either disable texting while driving or alert via some interop layer / system without being forced to invade your privacy.

you setup software "specifically" to focus on and look for the defined issue. Too much power given to individuals who have proved time and again that power corrupts absolutely.
 Quoting: abalienari non possu


Agreed. The article claims the device would only detect activity and not have access to personal data, which very well could be bullshit.
 Quoting: gmigriff


I call bs also on the premise that every damn cop I see lately has a cell plastered to his ear or driving with their eyes on their damn computer screens in their cars. Idiots policing idiots for the same crimes. Typical bs.
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just another in a very, very long list of reasons to stay the fuck out of new york
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just another in a very, very long list of reasons to stay the fuck out of new york
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New York was also the first state to introduce the Hands Free only law, and all other states soon followed. They will want their share of the revenue from this too.
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How will they know if you were stopped at a light? Or pulled over at the side of the road? Or had just gotten on the road? Etc.
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CHP issues reminder that texting at red lights is against California law

California's Department of Motor Vehicles sent a tweet reminding motorists:

"While the engines on, keep your devices off."


[link to www.ktvu.com]
 Quoting: gmigriff


Okay. Again. How do they know when you got on the road? How do they know if you're pulled over somewhere specifically to take a call or send a text?
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How will they know if you were stopped at a light? Or pulled over at the side of the road? Or had just gotten on the road? Etc.
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CHP issues reminder that texting at red lights is against California law

California's Department of Motor Vehicles sent a tweet reminding motorists:

"While the engines on, keep your devices off."


[link to www.ktvu.com]
 Quoting: gmigriff


Okay. Again. How do they know when you got on the road? How do they know if you're pulled over somewhere specifically to take a call or send a text?
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I have no idea, but I'll see if I can find out.
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Soon, the first thing they do will be confiscate your phone, any tablets or computers and image them for future reference.

Then see if you've been to a bar, or any criminal hot spots. Check your texting habits, maybe read your last 10 emails.
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This.
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How will they know if you were stopped at a light? Or pulled over at the side of the road? Or had just gotten on the road? Etc.
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CHP issues reminder that texting at red lights is against California law

California's Department of Motor Vehicles sent a tweet reminding motorists:

"While the engines on, keep your devices off."


[link to www.ktvu.com]
 Quoting: gmigriff


Okay. Again. How do they know when you got on the road? How do they know if you're pulled over somewhere specifically to take a call or send a text?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70619332


That doesn't mean police can access your conversations or photos. Lieberman is proposing "a breathalyzer for distracted driving," or "textalyzer," that would plug into a phone to tell police when it was in use. "It's just gonna show text in, text out," Lieberman says. "I don't think that you have to surrender all your privacy rights to get this right." But the New York Civil Liberties Union sees several problems: The device—under development by Cellebrite, reports the Huffington Post—wouldn't signal when a driver pulled over to use their phone. Plus, "there are so many ways in which somebody could be using the phone in a car that is not a violation of any laws," says a rep. "We seriously doubt that this bill is constitutional," adds a rep for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, per CNNMoney. The bill passed committee last month.

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thought policing?

just because one dumbass cant control their shit, it automatically means no one else can control their shit....

FLAWLESS LOGIC!

and before the safety vest crowd gets here.

Yes i get it, its a distraction, it COULD increase chances of a wreck.

But i also believe in freedom. freedom to do what you want. only WHEN that freedom hurts another life should you be punished. fuck all these "pre-crime" laws! is this fucking minority report?!
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They'll quickly invent an app to block it and they'll have overpriced junk .
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No new laws needed.

It's called distracted driving.
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Texting and Driving? Watch Out for the Textalyzer

The most provocative idea, from lawmakers in New York, is to give police officers a new device that is the digital equivalent of the Breathalyzer — a roadside test called the Textalyzer.

It would work like this: An officer arriving at the scene of a crash could ask for the phones of any drivers involved and use the Textalyzer to tap into the operating system to check for recent activity.

The technology could determine whether a driver had used the phone to text, email or do anything else that is forbidden under New York’s hands-free driving laws, which prohibit drivers from holding phones to their ear. Failure to hand over a phone could lead to the suspension of a driver’s license, similar to the consequences for refusing a Breathalyzer.


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 Quoting: gmigriff



So, how does that damn thing know if you were stopped at a stop sign or stop light when you used your phone? Are you telling me the laws are so strict that you can't use your phone when sitting in your non moving vehicle, whether at a stop light or sitting on the curb?
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Or how do they know it wasn't the passenger using your phone? Or like in my daughter's case, she sometimes hands her phone to her child so he can have his talk time with daddy while she is commuting.





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