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It's all for naught, you know. This fight.

 
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In my reality we come to a timeline shift. you can pick the Earth you want, this one, or 2.0, the win win scenario.
 Quoting: Isis One


If you could draw up a map or something, and upload it as a smilie, that would be fucking awesome.

I want off this fucking planet. I don't think I was supposed to be here, a mistake was made.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Before my dad passed away, he stated that he simply didn't belong here anymore. The world is evil.

I concur.

The world has turned upsidedown. Good is bad. Bad is good.

Wordsworth, perhaps it is supposed to be this way.
Gotta get worse before it can get better kinda thing.

We better hang on tightly.

Much love~~~ I always enjoy reading your commentary.
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Gun or God.

Pick your savior today.


What they are doing is DRIVING people to idolize their guns even more.

The LORD said "do not fear men", so they are spiritually getting people in another area as well.
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I'm not saying don't. I'm not saying give in. We have to resist, even if that resistance will be lost in the sands of time.

But eventually, we lose. In every scenario I can think of but one.


They probably won't make any big moves right now, you can't abolish the 2nd amendment because of an ISIS attack... that wouldn't fly. But the next time, and there will be a next time, this will be more ammo in their magazine. Maybe we can put it off for a while... They won't be able to get anything big through before the election. And if Trump wins and we can hang on to the Senate, that buys us two years hopefully. Maybe that's time enough for things to get sorted out, but I fear not. A critical mass has been reached, the American psyche damaged... I don't think this bell can be unrung. And many states will likely act on their own with less resistance.

But let's just stipulate that we do hang onto our current gun rights at least on a federal level, and look a bit further down the road. Look at the exponential rate of growth in technology. Look at what drones can do today, and then imagine what they will do 20 years from now.

How long before advanced supercomputers can identify free thinkers that are a threat to the state's power? Are we already there now?

Do you think your AR with a 30rd mag will be worth much against an swarm of 100 lightning fast armed drones controlled by advanced AI that can think 1000 times faster than you can?

Where will you hide when every public space has facial/DNA recognition equipment?

What will become of a nation who's government has that kind of power? Is it possible for this not to end badly?


We have come to far, too fast. Not that I agree with what he did, but Kaczynski was right. Like Frankenstein, we created a monster simply because we could and set loose on the world. And like him we will die trying to stop it, some day.

I didn't start this thread to debate these facts, because I feel they are facts. Feel free to discuss among yourselves, but me... I'm going to get drunk tonight. Hard booze, no time to fuck around. Join me if you like...

cheers
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Kaczynski was right all along. He just used extremely desperate and shocking means to get his dire message out.

The Technocracy powers that are rapidly taking over humanity now will have all the advantages in the fight in the future.

Successful application of AI means ABSOLUTE POWER for those who wield and control it.

And if they do not have humanity's best interest at heart ... well, you know that scenario and outcome..

It appears that the human race, as it currently exists, is quickly coming to a close, barring some sort of Divine or Non-Human/ET/Inter-Dimensional intervention...
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It's still too early to throw in the towel. Yeah, they have drones but so do regular people. They have the tech but there is a counter for everything.

The real battle is for the minds.

How that will go is still unknown.
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I'm not a blanket racist, I'm really not, but this is how I see it:

I know this is going to get slammed, but I think this is all part of a white genocide. This is the final push. So do we sit back and let ourselves get fucked up, or do we bite back with a vengeance? The problem is we can't fight at the moment because we are the ones holding all the jobs, well mostly whites hold the jobs.

We could bring the system down if we stopped working. Are you willing to do this?
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


They know we won't , and there already replacing us with immigrants and getting is to teach them our skills cheaply bastards

Whites are assholes

Jacob is destroyed for lack of knowledge ,

Knowledge that we know but the average white won't listen
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The only thing that can possibly defeat all of their technology, mercenaries, and fire power is an idea...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


I've come up with a lot of great ideas while drunk... sadly I never remember them the next day. I wish I planned this, I would have had something better than rotgut vodka on hand.

But to get back to your point, you're right. But I fear that idea won't come along until things have been bad for a LONG time.

In the future, the rebel will be different. Not a ragtag militia with AK's run and gunning from alley to alley. They will be digital warriors.

But how does an idea get spread, in a future where the government has total and instant control over the flow of information?

Supercomputers will be consuming megawatts, maybe gigawatts of power trying to stop that idea, to stop ANY idea.
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It's still too early to throw in the towel. Yeah, they have drones but so do regular people. They have the tech but there is a counter for everything.

The real battle is for the minds.

How that will go is still unknown.
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"He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future." - Adolf Hitler
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I'm not a blanket racist, I'm really not, but this is how I see it:

I know this is going to get slammed, but I think this is all part of a white genocide. This is the final push. So do we sit back and let ourselves get fucked up, or do we bite back with a vengeance? The problem is we can't fight at the moment because we are the ones holding all the jobs, well mostly whites hold the jobs.

We could bring the system down if we stopped working. Are you willing to do this?
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


Ah, the Ayn Rand scenario. Did it work in the book? I never finished it.

hmm
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-The Armor of God-

"Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against rulers, against authorities, against the power of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms..." Ephesians 6:10-12


"I will not cause pain without allowing something new to be born saith The Lord..." Isaiah 66:9


"Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers a multitude of sins..." 1 Peter 4:8

...Love conquereth all....... <3
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Gun or God.

Pick your savior today.


What they are doing is DRIVING people to idolize their guns even more.

The LORD said "do not fear men", so they are spiritually getting people in another area as well.
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Correct God doing this to drive us back to him , somewhere in revelations he says and still they won't bow , we need to bow and ask for God and go back to God
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I'm not a blanket racist, I'm really not, but this is how I see it:

I know this is going to get slammed, but I think this is all part of a white genocide. This is the final push. So do we sit back and let ourselves get fucked up, or do we bite back with a vengeance? The problem is we can't fight at the moment because we are the ones holding all the jobs, well mostly whites hold the jobs.

We could bring the system down if we stopped working. Are you willing to do this?
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


Ah, the Ayn Rand scenario. Did it work in the book? I never finished it.

hmm
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


It doesn't say. It works for them in a sense.
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OP: Where will you hide when every public space has facial/DNA recognition equipment?

Stay away from all public spaces.

Hey, it works...
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Chin up old boy. There's fight left in us yet.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Oh, I know man. There's a lot to do between here and there. A hallway with a lot of doors.

But tonight, my eyes seem to only focus on the one at the end. That's why I'm trying to blur by vision.
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But humanity's dilemma is the current inability to join together as to the needed solutions.

Divide-and-Conquer is the means and tool being employed to suppress human-insurrection and any improvement.

United we win, divided we fall/die.

Not much hope there, is there?
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Wordsworth, perhaps it is supposed to be this way.
Gotta get worse before it can get better kinda thing.
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


I think you're right. But man, that's a motherfucker, you know?

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Gun or God.

Pick your savior today.


What they are doing is DRIVING people to idolize their guns even more.

The LORD said "do not fear men", so they are spiritually getting people in another area as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72371675


I don't fear guns, nor men. You know what I fear?

Not doing the right thing. That's the only thing I fear on this earth, and it's fucking terrifying.

:hidetomato:
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Kaczynski was right all along. He just used extremely desperate and shocking means to get his dire message out.
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I suggest everyone read his manifesto. I mean, don't do anything afterwords, but just read it.

He had a genius IQ, he saw what was at that last doorway at the end of the hall, and it drove him mad. Unfortunately it made him lash out with violence, I wish he had found another way.
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Gun or God.

Pick your savior today.


What they are doing is DRIVING people to idolize their guns even more.

The LORD said "do not fear men", so they are spiritually getting people in another area as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72371675


I don't fear guns, nor men. You know what I fear?

Not doing the right thing. That's the only thing I fear on this earth, and it's fucking terrifying.

:hidetomato:
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth




rose
-The Armor of God-

"Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against rulers, against authorities, against the power of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms..." Ephesians 6:10-12


"I will not cause pain without allowing something new to be born saith The Lord..." Isaiah 66:9


"Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers a multitude of sins..." 1 Peter 4:8

...Love conquereth all....... <3
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:armageddon:
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This coming king must be somebody that many people will not recognize. Thus, they will fight Him and die
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I'm not saying don't. I'm not saying give in. We have to resist, even if that resistance will be lost in the sands of time.

But eventually, we lose. In every scenario I can think of but one.


They probably won't make any big moves right now, you can't abolish the 2nd amendment because of an ISIS attack... that wouldn't fly. But the next time, and there will be a next time, this will be more ammo in their magazine. Maybe we can put it off for a while... They won't be able to get anything big through before the election. And if Trump wins and we can hang on to the Senate, that buys us two years hopefully. Maybe that's time enough for things to get sorted out, but I fear not. A critical mass has been reached, the American psyche damaged... I don't think this bell can be unrung. And many states will likely act on their own with less resistance.

But let's just stipulate that we do hang onto our current gun rights at least on a federal level, and look a bit further down the road. Look at the exponential rate of growth in technology. Look at what drones can do today, and then imagine what they will do 20 years from now.

How long before advanced supercomputers can identify free thinkers that are a threat to the state's power? Are we already there now?

Do you think your AR with a 30rd mag will be worth much against an swarm of 100 lightning fast armed drones controlled by advanced AI that can think 1000 times faster than you can?

Where will you hide when every public space has facial/DNA recognition equipment?

What will become of a nation who's government has that kind of power? Is it possible for this not to end badly?


We have come to far, too fast. Not that I agree with what he did, but Kaczynski was right. Like Frankenstein, we created a monster simply because we could and set loose on the world. And like him we will die trying to stop it, some day.

I didn't start this thread to debate these facts, because I feel they are facts. Feel free to discuss among yourselves, but me... I'm going to get drunk tonight. Hard booze, no time to fuck around. Join me if you like...

cheers
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


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there will never be a better source
than to speak your truth
or make your peace some other way.”
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Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.
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The Technocracy powers that are rapidly taking over humanity now will have all the advantages in the fight in the future.

Successful application of AI means ABSOLUTE POWER for those who wield and control it.

And if they do not have humanity's best interest at heart ... well, you know that scenario and outcome..

It appears that the human race, as it currently exists, is quickly coming to a close, barring some sort of Divine or Non-Human/ET/Inter-Dimensional intervention...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385910


What if that's the only way it can ever end? What if that's an eventuality for ANY intelligent life form?

Has this played out a trillion times before, all with the same result? Is freedom simply a brief stage in evolution?
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The only thing that can possibly defeat all of their technology, mercenaries, and fire power is an idea...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


I've come up with a lot of great ideas while drunk... sadly I never remember them the next day. I wish I planned this, I would have had something better than rotgut vodka on hand.

But to get back to your point, you're right. But I fear that idea won't come along until things have been bad for a LONG time.

In the future, the rebel will be different. Not a ragtag militia with AK's run and gunning from alley to alley. They will be digital warriors.

But how does an idea get spread, in a future where the government has total and instant control over the flow of information?

Supercomputers will be consuming megawatts, maybe gigawatts of power trying to stop that idea, to stop ANY idea.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Sure they will, but an idea whose time has come is virtually impossible to stop...

Look up the Freedom cycle, this is not the first time Man has fallen under tyranny, but when it gets bad enough, and intrusive enough, there is always a push back and frankly even with all of their technology, they are few, and we are many. Sheer numbers will tell the tale in the end...
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I'm not saying don't. I'm not saying give in. We have to resist, even if that resistance will be lost in the sands of time.

But eventually, we lose. In every scenario I can think of but one.


They probably won't make any big moves right now, you can't abolish the 2nd amendment because of an ISIS attack... that wouldn't fly. But the next time, and there will be a next time, this will be more ammo in their magazine. Maybe we can put it off for a while... They won't be able to get anything big through before the election. And if Trump wins and we can hang on to the Senate, that buys us two years hopefully. Maybe that's time enough for things to get sorted out, but I fear not. A critical mass has been reached, the American psyche damaged... I don't think this bell can be unrung. And many states will likely act on their own with less resistance.

But let's just stipulate that we do hang onto our current gun rights at least on a federal level, and look a bit further down the road. Look at the exponential rate of growth in technology. Look at what drones can do today, and then imagine what they will do 20 years from now.

How long before advanced supercomputers can identify free thinkers that are a threat to the state's power? Are we already there now?

Do you think your AR with a 30rd mag will be worth much against an swarm of 100 lightning fast armed drones controlled by advanced AI that can think 1000 times faster than you can?

Where will you hide when every public space has facial/DNA recognition equipment?

What will become of a nation who's government has that kind of power? Is it possible for this not to end badly?


We have come to far, too fast. Not that I agree with what he did, but Kaczynski was right. Like Frankenstein, we created a monster simply because we could and set loose on the world. And like him we will die trying to stop it, some day.

I didn't start this thread to debate these facts, because I feel they are facts. Feel free to discuss among yourselves, but me... I'm going to get drunk tonight. Hard booze, no time to fuck around. Join me if you like...

cheers
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth



~joining in on the spirits OP~

in the battle of good vrs evil ~
good is gasping its final breath. IMHO.


so yea.
i join you in the drink.


sad reality.
very sad reality.
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if this is our future then we need to go back to the stone age again and start over. although many would die, an EMP event on a national level would be our savior, for humanities sake
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WE CAN DO THIS...USE THE FORCE
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Sure they will, but an idea whose time has come is virtually impossible to stop...

Look up the Freedom cycle, this is not the first time Man has fallen under tyranny, but when it gets bad enough, and intrusive enough, there is always a push back and frankly even with all of their technology, they are few, and we are many. Sheer numbers will tell the tale in the end...
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The monster isn’t the technology it’s the psychopaths who have risen to the top of the power structure. I don’t know how that can be prevented. A regular purging of those parasites needs to take place. As I see it currently there is no arm of government that can be trusted to have the best interests of the citizens at heart.
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~joining in on the spirits OP~

in the battle of good vrs evil ~
good is gasping its final breath. IMHO.


so yea.
i join you in the drink.


sad reality.
very sad reality.
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The monster isn’t the technology it’s the psychopaths who have risen to the top of the power structure. I don’t know how that can be prevented. A regular purging of those parasites needs to take place. As I see it currently there is no arm of government that can be trusted to have the best interests of the citizens at heart.
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