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I'm a carpenter, I make cabinets and furniture (IT refugee). Economy looks good from here.

 
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I remember way back in high school they kept saying computers were the future, I thought bullshit at the time (they were right) but I'm glad I stayed the family course and became an electrician. I now have over 30yrs in the trade and still find it to be enjoyable and very sustainable hopefully a few more years until retirement.

I have worked tons of IT folks throughout the years and haven't envied their jobs once. I supply the power to the IT rooms and server rooms, their whole facilities for that matter and then move on to the next one.
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And no more overseas project teams! Hooray!
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Nice OP. Many wish they had your skills.
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Do you guys think, everything is fake BS? Is there anything that isnt? Think about that for a min.
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Not everything. We see this all the time, a "successful" person bragging in this forum about how great their job is. When I was working full-time, and was leading a busy normal life, I didn't have time to post anything in conspiracy forums, or even browse them. Most people that post here won't admit they are unemployed or work part-time.

But for me its a gift being able to see the big picture, especially here at the front line, cutting edge forum that is glp. Although, like so much of the internet, the majority of content is false, designed to make money, or troll people, etc.

Still, you story is valid in that it could easily happen, and is inspiring none the less.
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I call bull shit. I live in Fort Lauderdale the yacht capital of the world. No one is waiting 2 years for your "skilled labor".

And when you work for the elite, you're a sellout, a pawn, yet you brag bc you're a lackey? No one cares...
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Whoa: serious sour grapes...here.

Do you Get any where with that attitude my friend??
Seriously "work for the Elite"?? You Work for anybody who will pay you... NO?

Unless you are just out throwing bricks through business plate glass windows in a black hoody and mask fora living.

5a "Skills" are what people pay for. Not so much: "education"

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Thanks, one of the most interesting things that happened was that I lost allot of my friends, none of my co-workers in the IT industry understood why I wanted a 'shop' job. They thought I had 'gone retarded' I no longer associate with those guys and I dont miss them either.
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im in a similar situation. Im a finish woodworker on the Coast of Maine with more work than i can handle. I work seasonally and my income allows me to support my wife whom I travel with all winter without any financial concerns.
However..... I know many others who work construction that arent nearly as fortunate. I cater to the wealthy as you do. But its entirely regional, my old construction buddies in upstate NY tell me they are just scrapping by. Likewise If you take a drive 15 miles inland from Maines coast you find some pretty dire areas rife with poverty. Even on the coast work can be spotty.

I provide a high end and consistent product which i am fortunate to be known for. But i never take it for granted. Ive also been around long enough to see the building market disapear for several years at a time and the only jobs are at home depot.

My advice (not that your asking) ..keep doing what you are doing but remain humble. If the economy takes a dip in your area dont hold out for only the good jobs. Building out yaht interiors for the super rich is nice but may not always remain sustainable. Ive seen over and over, high end builders go without work because they were too used to the high life when things went south, unwilling to adjust to lesser economic times.

ive been in the biz for about 25 years now for whatever thats worth and have seen just about everything.
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Here in East Texas, cabinet guys are swamped. We just remodeled our kitchen right before the last turkey day. We booked our cabinet guy in advance in July of last year to have them by mid November.
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Glad to hear and hope it continues. Maybe im just cynical but ive also lived through more than one building bubble.
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It is said that Jesus was a carpenter

and He may have been

while others say He was more likely a stonemason.

In any case, He worked for His Father...
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Thanks, one of the most interesting things that happened was that I lost allot of my friends, none of my co-workers in the IT industry understood why I wanted a 'shop' job. They thought I had 'gone retarded' I no longer associate with those guys and I dont miss them either.
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That 'shop job' attitude is what got this nation a glut of graduates in useless majors and a shortage of competent auto technicians and plumbers.

One well hidden secret is that 'shop' jobs quite often pay better, are in greater demand, and allow people a degree of freedom that 'tech jobs' will ever allow. You are a case in point.

Good for you! May you have a prosperous and happy future. hf
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I want ta learn carpentry so bad but no classes near me.
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I do custom woodworking and learned on the job starting at the bottom,school isn't necessary.
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I build allot of yacht interiors, all custom work. My shop rate is 80$/hr, and my on-site rate for yacht carpentry is 100. I have work lined up for at least the next two years.
I have never had problems finding employment, I have been doing this kind of work for about ten years and have really enjoyed learning various woodworking techniques.

I started doing this after working in IT/tech support/database management for far too long. I'm so much happier now, the IT jobs are soul-crushing and dont even require much skill. The best thing I ever did for my-self was to unplug from the digital world. I still use a smart phone, but I no longer spend hours and hours staring at a screen. The worst part is that you never get any real gratitude from employers or clients.

If your current job sucks' quitting and moving on to something else may be the best thing you could do for your self.
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I hear ya OP. I used to be in the IT business as well. My dad, brother and I owned a communications company. We sold, serviced and installed telephone systems, voicemail and ivr systems, digital surveillance systems and computer networks.

Back in 2007 when the telecom bubble burst, floods of IT guys were laid off. A lot of them became trunkers. That is what we called one man shows working out of the trunk of their cars. They flooded the DFW area with real cheap labor and it became difficult for bigger companies (like us) to stay afloat.

My dad has got shitloads of money so it was no big hit for him. I got laid off and my brother is still running the outfit but just barely.

Anyway, I live 70 miles SE of Dallas where our company was based. So I had to find a new line of work. I got introduced to the propane business. Out here in the rural areas, most places don't have natural gas. Propane is the alternative.

Good margins in this business, close to $1 a gallon. So now I am Hank Hill, I sell propane and propane accessories. We have been setting above and below ground tanks out here like crazy. Most on new houses. If people are building new houses out here, which half are weekend places or get a ways, then our economy is booming. At least here in Texas, anyway.

I have never been happier and the money is flowing in.
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remember the movie Bubble Boy? i think John Travoltas character (Bubble Boy, a boy who lived in an actual bubble) also lived in a suburb outside of Dallas. hhmmmm
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I build allot of yacht interiors, all custom work. My shop rate is 80$/hr, and my on-site rate for yacht carpentry is 100. I have work lined up for at least the next two years.
I have never had problems finding employment, I have been doing this kind of work for about ten years and have really enjoyed learning various woodworking techniques.

I started doing this after working in IT/tech support/database management for far too long. I'm so much happier now, the IT jobs are soul-crushing and dont even require much skill. The best thing I ever did for my-self was to unplug from the digital world. I still use a smart phone, but I no longer spend hours and hours staring at a screen. The worst part is that you never get any real gratitude from employers or clients.

If your current job sucks' quitting and moving on to something else may be the best thing you could do for your self.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16887161


I too am an IT refugee! I did client server engineering/outsourcing as we slowly placed all of the IT infrastructure of the US to India and Brazil. Indeed it was soul crushing. I am now learning to become an electrician, and I am from the northeastern tip of new england. Cheers on your new career and Go Pats!
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Good luck getting a job in the trades when the country is flooded with illegal aliens. I've heard electricians, plumbers and brick layers have a difficult time getting work. I guess if you want to work for 2 dollars an hour you might be okay.
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Illegals have their families on full ride welfare, everything. That is going away. Besides illegals do shit work if you dont watch them like a hawk. There best carpenters really on caulk to fill in all the gaps. They are unskilled.
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I build allot of yacht interiors, all custom work. My shop rate is 80$/hr, and my on-site rate for yacht carpentry is 100. I have work lined up for at least the next two years.
I have never had problems finding employment, I have been doing this kind of work for about ten years and have really enjoyed learning various woodworking techniques.

I started doing this after working in IT/tech support/database management for far too long. I'm so much happier now, the IT jobs are soul-crushing and dont even require much skill. The best thing I ever did for my-self was to unplug from the digital world. I still use a smart phone, but I no longer spend hours and hours staring at a screen. The worst part is that you never get any real gratitude from employers or clients.

If your current job sucks' quitting and moving on to something else may be the best thing you could do for your self.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16887161


I hear ya OP. I used to be in the IT business as well. My dad, brother and I owned a communications company. We sold, serviced and installed telephone systems, voicemail and ivr systems, digital surveillance systems and computer networks.

Back in 2007 when the telecom bubble burst, floods of IT guys were laid off. A lot of them became trunkers. That is what we called one man shows working out of the trunk of their cars. They flooded the DFW area with real cheap labor and it became difficult for bigger companies (like us) to stay afloat.

My dad has got shitloads of money so it was no big hit for him. I got laid off and my brother is still running the outfit but just barely.

Anyway, I live 70 miles SE of Dallas where our company was based. So I had to find a new line of work. I got introduced to the propane business. Out here in the rural areas, most places don't have natural gas. Propane is the alternative.

Good margins in this business, close to $1 a gallon. So now I am Hank Hill, I sell propane and propane accessories. We have been setting above and below ground tanks out here like crazy. Most on new houses. If people are building new houses out here, which half are weekend places or get a ways, then our economy is booming. At least here in Texas, anyway.

I have never been happier and the money is flowing in.
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remember the movie Bubble Boy? i think John Travoltas character (Bubble Boy, a boy who lived in an actual bubble) also lived in a suburb outside of Dallas. hhmmmm
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I call bull shit. I live in Fort Lauderdale the yacht capital of the world. No one is waiting 2 years for your "skilled labor".

And when you work for the elite, you're a sellout, a pawn, yet you brag bc you're a lackey? No one cares...
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It's okay. You still have time to switch careers and be happy too like OP. Don't be sour about it.
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lol I own rental properties and boat and chill all day brah. I'm just calling bs on his Kurt Russell fantasies
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If anyone gets the chance to work for yourself, you should roll the dice and give it a try. If it works for you, you will be the happiest you have ever been. It is hard work, but it doesn't seem like work at all. Good luck!
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See, this is what I'm afraid of. No fear in learning carpentry skills, but in learning how to run my own business: getting clients, bookkeeping, tax filing, ordering products. It all seems scary and bewildering.
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I am also a carpenter and i gave up last year because I was tired of competeing against illegal aliens that were going to ensure that I would never make more than 12 or 13 bucks an hour.

I enjoy the work, but there is no future in carpentry unless Trump builds the wall AND removers the illegals and anchor babies.
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If anyone gets the chance to work for yourself, you should roll the dice and give it a try. If it works for you, you will be the happiest you have ever been. It is hard work, but it doesn't seem like work at all. Good luck!
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See, this is what I'm afraid of. No fear in learning carpentry skills, but in learning how to run my own business: getting clients, bookkeeping, tax filing, ordering products. It all seems scary and bewildering.
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that's the hard bit... i say this after working gov... for near 20 years
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If anyone gets the chance to work for yourself, you should roll the dice and give it a try. If it works for you, you will be the happiest you have ever been. It is hard work, but it doesn't seem like work at all. Good luck!
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See, this is what I'm afraid of. No fear in learning carpentry skills, but in learning how to run my own business: getting clients, bookkeeping, tax filing, ordering products. It all seems scary and bewildering.
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that's the hard bit... i say this after working gov... for near 20 years
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Wouldn't a business partner help with this? You do the skilled labor and they deal with the business side of things.
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I can relate to the OP.

I have a college degree in Graphic Design, but when I graduated 10 years ago, the economy was shit and my field was flooded with so many people doing what I do.

So I was stuck working gas stations and waitressing jobs.

I started painting murals for people and painting faux finishes on the side, and I haven't looked back since! It took a few years to get the momentum I have now, and I made more and more money each year. And for the past 2+ years I have been consistently booked at least a month in advance at any given time. I hardly get a day off unless I specifically plan it into my schedule.

I get a lot of repeat clients, lots of referrals, and lots of business through other sources. I just need to work on asking for more money!
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If anyone gets the chance to work for yourself, you should roll the dice and give it a try. If it works for you, you will be the happiest you have ever been. It is hard work, but it doesn't seem like work at all. Good luck!
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See, this is what I'm afraid of. No fear in learning carpentry skills, but in learning how to run my own business: getting clients, bookkeeping, tax filing, ordering products. It all seems scary and bewildering.
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that's the hard bit... i say this after working gov... for near 20 years
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Wouldn't a business partner help with this? You do the skilled labor and they deal with the business side of things.
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yeah.. but where to find one?? i know people from around the world, but not so even my next door neighbor....
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I build allot of yacht interiors, all custom work. My shop rate is 80$/hr, and my on-site rate for yacht carpentry is 100. I have work lined up for at least the next two years.
I have never had problems finding employment, I have been doing this kind of work for about ten years and have really enjoyed learning various woodworking techniques.

I started doing this after working in IT/tech support/database management for far too long. I'm so much happier now, the IT jobs are soul-crushing and dont even require much skill. The best thing I ever did for my-self was to unplug from the digital world. I still use a smart phone, but I no longer spend hours and hours staring at a screen. The worst part is that you never get any real gratitude from employers or clients.

If your current job sucks' quitting and moving on to something else may be the best thing you could do for your self.
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Well played, Sir!

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I build allot of yacht interiors, all custom work. My shop rate is 80$/hr, and my on-site rate for yacht carpentry is 100. I have work lined up for at least the next two years.
I have never had problems finding employment, I have been doing this kind of work for about ten years and have really enjoyed learning various woodworking techniques.

I started doing this after working in IT/tech support/database management for far too long. I'm so much happier now, the IT jobs are soul-crushing and dont even require much skill. The best thing I ever did for my-self was to unplug from the digital world. I still use a smart phone, but I no longer spend hours and hours staring at a screen. The worst part is that you never get any real gratitude from employers or clients.

If your current job sucks' quitting and moving on to something else may be the best thing you could do for your self.
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You are my hero and enemy. lol. 15+ IT consultant here. Soul crushing is a very accurate phrase. 24 hour work culture and instant gratification society has created the situation where our field has become a mess. Older engineers are leaving at the first chance, younger people just don't have the same work ethic. (I don't blame them, my generation worked itself to the bone like idiots). Foreign outsourcing has picked up the slack and decimated salaries. It's really not worth it anymore, however so many people are stuck. I tried to get out and do video work for commercials but there's no money in it. Glad you made it out. I bet you miss the IT sales man and managers that slime their way around and off the backs of talented engineers. For every talented IT person there's a sleaze ball claiming credit for their work. Fuck i hate IT,
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I build allot of yacht interiors, all custom work. My shop rate is 80$/hr, and my on-site rate for yacht carpentry is 100. I have work lined up for at least the next two years.
I have never had problems finding employment, I have been doing this kind of work for about ten years and have really enjoyed learning various woodworking techniques.

I started doing this after working in IT/tech support/database management for far too long. I'm so much happier now, the IT jobs are soul-crushing and dont even require much skill. The best thing I ever did for my-self was to unplug from the digital world. I still use a smart phone, but I no longer spend hours and hours staring at a screen. The worst part is that you never get any real gratitude from employers or clients.

If your current job sucks' quitting and moving on to something else may be the best thing you could do for your self.
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I can relate to the OP.

I have a college degree in Graphic Design, but when I graduated 10 years ago, the economy was shit and my field was flooded with so many people doing what I do.

So I was stuck working gas stations and waitressing jobs.

I started painting murals for people and painting faux finishes on the side, and I haven't looked back since! It took a few years to get the momentum I have now, and I made more and more money each year. And for the past 2+ years I have been consistently booked at least a month in advance at any given time. I hardly get a day off unless I specifically plan it into my schedule.

I get a lot of repeat clients, lots of referrals, and lots of business through other sources. I just need to work on asking for more money!
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Do you guys think, everything is fake BS? Is there anything that isnt? Think about that for a min.
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Not everything. We see this all the time, a "successful" person bragging in this forum about how great their job is. When I was working full-time, and was leading a busy normal life, I didn't have time to post anything in conspiracy forums, or even browse them. Most people that post here won't admit they are unemployed or work part-time.

But for me its a gift being able to see the big picture, especially here at the front line, cutting edge forum that is glp. Although, like so much of the internet, the majority of content is false, designed to make money, or troll people, etc.

Still, you story is valid in that it could easily happen, and is inspiring none the less.
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I build allot of yacht interiors, all custom work. My shop rate is 80$/hr, and my on-site rate for yacht carpentry is 100. I have work lined up for at least the next two years.
I have never had problems finding employment, I have been doing this kind of work for about ten years and have really enjoyed learning various woodworking techniques.

I started doing this after working in IT/tech support/database management for far too long. I'm so much happier now, the IT jobs are soul-crushing and dont even require much skill. The best thing I ever did for my-self was to unplug from the digital world. I still use a smart phone, but I no longer spend hours and hours staring at a screen. The worst part is that you never get any real gratitude from employers or clients.

If your current job sucks' quitting and moving on to something else may be the best thing you could do for your self.
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you have a fucking website?

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I work in IT/tech and I find it really boring, but the pay is good and my hours are short.

But what's funny is, like Op says, I have several coworkers who hate it, and would rather be working with their hands (metalworking, electrician, etc)

I will admit, I used to be a software engineer, and I absolutely hated it. The work is redundant and it is nonstop. They expect you to be churning out the most optimized code, rapidly, 24/7 until you can't do it anymore, then they hire someone younger to replace you.

And yeah, the work is not that hard. I don't know why people in low-pay retail positions don't pick up a book and learn to code. They could potentially have 6 figure jobs (or high 5 figure jobs) within a year.
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I work in IT/tech and I find it really boring, but the pay is good and my hours are short.

But what's funny is, like Op says, I have several coworkers who hate it, and would rather be working with their hands (metalworking, electrician, etc)

I will admit, I used to be a software engineer, and I absolutely hated it. The work is redundant and it is nonstop. They expect you to be churning out the most optimized code, rapidly, 24/7 until you can't do it anymore, then they hire someone younger to replace you.

And yeah, the work is not that hard. I don't know why people in low-pay retail positions don't pick up a book and learn to code. They could potentially have 6 figure jobs (or high 5 figure jobs) within a year.
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because we hate fucking internet
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02/04/2017 02:26 PM
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Re: I'm a carpenter, I make cabinets and furniture (IT refugee). Economy looks good from here.
I can relate to the OP.

I have a college degree in Graphic Design, but when I graduated 10 years ago, the economy was shit and my field was flooded with so many people doing what I do.

So I was stuck working gas stations and waitressing jobs.

I started painting murals for people and painting faux finishes on the side, and I haven't looked back since! It took a few years to get the momentum I have now, and I made more and more money each year. And for the past 2+ years I have been consistently booked at least a month in advance at any given time. I hardly get a day off unless I specifically plan it into my schedule.

I get a lot of repeat clients, lots of referrals, and lots of business through other sources. I just need to work on asking for more money!
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I have perfect 5 star reviews on my yelp page too, which I copied and pasted onto my website.
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02/04/2017 02:29 PM
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Re: I'm a carpenter, I make cabinets and furniture (IT refugee). Economy looks good from here.
Howdy OP,
I am ready to make that step. Been a Linux/UNIX dev /admin / engineer for too long and I hate my life. I just can't take the bullshit of always having a backlog a mile long and nobody wants to hire enough people to "Really" get the job done. Folks have no clue that the bulk of the internet is held together with toothpicks and chewing gum. Being on call for weeks at a time results in slight PTSD after you have gone days without sleep fixing bad code or finding work arounds for poorly implemented solutions. Right now, I don't know what to do. I am on paid leave because I just can't keep on driving myself into the ground. I have been pushed to my limit and any advice on next steps would be awesome. I have looked into trade schools, but I really just need to switch jobs ASAP before I snap. What sucks, is that they keep importing foreign contractors to "help" and they don't know shit from shinola. I have had to personally fire 80% of the contractors that we have hired due to gross ineptitude. I would take a highschool drop out computer nerd over anyone from india with a compsci degree.





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