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I have a couple buddies who think religion is man-made and only the weak-minded people (better word would be idiots) would believe in them. I generally like to keep it neutral so I tell them everyone is free to believe what they want.

However, they are not satisfied that I am still religious and they try everyday to convince me there is no such thing as God. I tried to keep religion and politics out of our conversations because honestly there really is no right or wrong answer since neither of us can prove anything, but they seem to have an agenda towards my beliefs and wants to free my mind.

I lol inside because nothing can/will change my belief but at the same time, I don't want to jeopardize our friendship over this. Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated...
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Do you have any spiritual experiences that you can tell them about? Not that it can prove anything but atleast they would get the picture that they cant change your mind. And also, Heaven and Hell are a big deal right? Perhaps its worth it to find out if they really do exist or not? Since they are pushing their views onto you they do seem to care. Maybe they should try harder in getting to know God before they believe He doesnt exist.
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The Fibonacci sequence is coincedently found throughout nature, your ear is part of this.

The order of nature definitely points to intelligent design.

God was also kind enough to bright up the day for clarity.

On the other hand non-intelligent design would be a complete faliure.
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Hebrews 11:1King James Version (KJV)

11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Understand this. The atheists probably already know about this, and they are holding it against you.
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Say nothing. It makes no difference
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Just ask them where they are going to be in 100 years ...
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Thread: 3 Realities that I am aware of + 1 super imposed reality
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Re: What can a Christian say to an atheist that God is real?
Explain what God means to you and how He has helped you. Personal experience, they can mock you, whatever, it's your truth.

God is real, just let Him live through you, they can't deny that He has changed you.
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I am passing time with you here. I couldnt care less if you were in hell.
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I have a couple buddies who think religion is man-made and only the weak-minded people (better word would be idiots) would believe in them. I generally like to keep it neutral so I tell them everyone is free to believe what they want.

However, they are not satisfied that I am still religious and they try everyday to convince me there is no such thing as God. I tried to keep religion and politics out of our conversations because honestly there really is no right or wrong answer since neither of us can prove anything, but they seem to have an agenda towards my beliefs and wants to free my mind.

I lol inside because nothing can/will change my belief but at the same time, I don't want to jeopardize our friendship over this. Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated...
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Know the truth and tell it, but all religions are fake, an illusion, if you read well God lied in the bible first 3 pages

many say man is inherently evil well as a fact we are created in Gods image so not much to your reothic , behind every atheist there are a bunch of lies that he sees that for sake of his sanity is better he does not believe in God at all as if we judge him by his own laws he does not make the grade !
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How can an atheist acknowledge a God that others believe in, if he doesn't believe there is a God? He can't. It proves his belief is flawed. If he believes others believe, then HE ALSO BELIEVES by proxy, but is in denial of his own conscience on the matter.

He might as well believe that he breathes different oxygen too. What it comes down too, is that weather he acknowledges God or not, God is still in his life and there is no way short of death for him to separate himself from God. That is the truth of the matter. He intrinsically knows this to be true, but subconsciously or overtly rejects it i order to pacify his own conscience.

He can't separate himself from God anymore than he can take color out of a rainbow or the blue out of the sky.

God can't be removed, only man can. God is eternal. Once a man is dead, God continues existing regardless of that mans death.

The whole point atheists serve to prove is that an atheist has no point in living, because without a higher power, their life and the whole basis of life everywhere, is pointless.

I really is no different than them saying food isn't for eating, or air isn't for breathing, simply because they don't believe that is what it also is created for.

They might as well prove they don't believe in God by killing themselves right now, because if there is no God, then there is no point in them participating in the intelligent design of which they so eagerly utilize to sustain their life.
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An atheist will go to the supermarket and buy a gallon of dairy milk and then exclaim there is no cow, because milk comes in plastic containers.
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So yes, I have explained them the type of miracles I have witnessed but they don't buy it. I told them how God have cured me from blindness, cured my mother's cancer, healed our family, and gave us love & hope.

But to the outsiders, I can see how all of this can be seen as a coincidence and a bunch of neurons firing in our brains. It is what it is I suppose.

So one of the atheist claims that I am chained by this false deity and I would be actually much much happier if I just took God out of the equation. He proclaims I should try it and I'd never look back. Haha.

And the other guy says, he believes there is some intelligent design but doesn't want to believe in any religions that are out in this world today. He says that they are all fairy tales and astonished how I could believe in such stories, and that we might as well all believe in mermaids and unicorns.

The only thing I can do is just pray for them and see that the light shines through to them at some point in their lives. But I do wonder if there is some way to resolve our conflicts if possible right away.

There are some good wisdom here and I truly appreciate everyones' responses, I read them all. Thanks.
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Re: What can a Christian say to an atheist that God is real?
Ask them how life exists. They will claim evolution. Ask them how evolution works. Most who believe in evolution don't know.
How can everything come from nothing. It is scientifically impossible. Evolution is non-scientific. It goes against science. How does order come from chaos. It can't.
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Never waste your time trying to convince or persuade those who are unwilling to be convinced or persuaded...
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The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
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Re: What can a Christian say to an atheist that God is real?
The Fibonacci sequence is coincedently found throughout nature, your ear is part of this.

The order of nature definitely points to intelligent design.

God was also kind enough to bright up the day for clarity.

On the other hand non-intelligent design would be a complete faliure.
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Its called a sun no god. Without the sun no life.
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How can an atheist acknowledge a God that others believe in, if he doesn't believe there is a God? He can't. It proves his belief is flawed. If he believes others believe, then HE ALSO BELIEVES by proxy, but is in denial of his own conscience on the matter.

He might as well believe that he breathes different oxygen too. What it comes down too, is that weather he acknowledges God or not, God is still in his life and there is no way short of death for him to separate himself from God. That is the truth of the matter. He intrinsically knows this to be true, but subconsciously or overtly rejects it i order to pacify his own conscience.

He can't separate himself from God anymore than he can take color out of a rainbow or the blue out of the sky.

God can't be removed, only man can. God is eternal. Once a man is dead, God continues existing regardless of that mans death.

The whole point atheists serve to prove is that an atheist has no point in living, because without a higher power, their life and the whole basis of life everywhere, is pointless.

I really is no different than them saying food isn't for eating, or air isn't for breathing, simply because they don't believe that is what it also is created for.

They might as well prove they don't believe in God by killing themselves right now, because if there is no God, then there is no point in them participating in the intelligent design of which they so eagerly utilize to sustain their life.

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it goes both ways. Religious people can't proof god is real to.
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It is God that opens the heart ...
Ephesians 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:



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“I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how a man could look up into the heavens and say there is no God.”
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Thread packed full of tards. OP's friend are right. God is not real, atleast not the ones described in the bible.
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Lots of atheists believe in evolution. Most consider themselves greenies and believe there is a finite quantity of resources on planet Earth. Therefore, they believe that culling of the human race is necessary in order for the survival of the species. This means that most atheists believe in abortion....

In order to give proof that God is real, you have to chip away at the above ideologies and show fallacy. Then show how Creation is the key and how evolution also exists, but within each species....

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How can an atheist acknowledge a God that others believe in, if he doesn't believe there is a God? He can't. It proves his belief is flawed. If he believes others believe, then HE ALSO BELIEVES by proxy, but is in denial of his own conscience on the matter.

He might as well believe that he breathes different oxygen too. What it comes down too, is that weather he acknowledges God or not, God is still in his life and there is no way short of death for him to separate himself from God. That is the truth of the matter. He intrinsically knows this to be true, but subconsciously or overtly rejects it i order to pacify his own conscience.

He can't separate himself from God anymore than he can take color out of a rainbow or the blue out of the sky.

God can't be removed, only man can. God is eternal. Once a man is dead, God continues existing regardless of that mans death.

The whole point atheists serve to prove is that an atheist has no point in living, because without a higher power, their life and the whole basis of life everywhere, is pointless.

I really is no different than them saying food isn't for eating, or air isn't for breathing, simply because they don't believe that is what it also is created for.

They might as well prove they don't believe in God by killing themselves right now, because if there is no God, then there is no point in them participating in the intelligent design of which they so eagerly utilize to sustain their life.

 Quoting: Osmium76


it goes both ways. Religious people can't proof god is real to.
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Without God, then there is no true path or meaning for life and no afterlife to look forward too...

Without God, you are worm food...
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Ask them if they believe that Love exists!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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So yes, I have explained them the type of miracles I have witnessed but they don't buy it. I told them how God have cured me from blindness, cured my mother's cancer, healed our family, and gave us love & hope.

But to the outsiders, I can see how all of this can be seen as a coincidence and a bunch of neurons firing in our brains. It is what it is I suppose.

So one of the atheist claims that I am chained by this false deity and I would be actually much much happier if I just took God out of the equation. He proclaims I should try it and I'd never look back. Haha.

And the other guy says, he believes there is some intelligent design but doesn't want to believe in any religions that are out in this world today. He says that they are all fairy tales and astonished how I could believe in such stories, and that we might as well all believe in mermaids and unicorns.

The only thing I can do is just pray for them and see that the light shines through to them at some point in their lives. But I do wonder if there is some way to resolve our conflicts if possible right away.

There are some good wisdom here and I truly appreciate everyones' responses, I read them all. Thanks.
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Did you ever ask them to examine the source of their own beliefs, as in pointing out to them that in fact their beliefs were given to them by other men? And once established as a fact, ask them to examine the ultimate consequences of believing those men as their truth tellers has led them into condemning God as the liar?

"chained by this false deity and I would be actually much much happier if I just took God out of the equation"
"says that they are all fairy tales"

Phrases that all of us have read and heard thousands of times by the time we reach adulthood.
And so they become our beliefs.
Beliefs through which we eventually deny Our Lord and God.

Now how crafty of those actors, newspaper writers, magazine editors, movie makers, tv script writers to have saturated us with those beliefs which then infected our minds and hearts. Us, too naive and rejecting of Jesus' warnings that men compass land and sea making converts twice the children of hell...... go unheeded.

Everyone has beliefs.
But these crafty men bank on us not discerning that in fact they've been sowing our minds with their toxic poison for centuries, and that with the advent of media, that rate of sowing has exponentially increased.
Why do we not turn and examine the religion of men that sway us to deny Jesus Christ?
What do they gain?
What do we lose?
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How can an atheist acknowledge a God that others believe in, if he doesn't believe there is a God? He can't. It proves his belief is flawed. If he believes others believe, then HE ALSO BELIEVES by proxy, but is in denial of his own conscience on the matter.

He might as well believe that he breathes different oxygen too. What it comes down too, is that weather he acknowledges God or not, God is still in his life and there is no way short of death for him to separate himself from God. That is the truth of the matter. He intrinsically knows this to be true, but subconsciously or overtly rejects it i order to pacify his own conscience.

He can't separate himself from God anymore than he can take color out of a rainbow or the blue out of the sky.

God can't be removed, only man can. God is eternal. Once a man is dead, God continues existing regardless of that mans death.

The whole point atheists serve to prove is that an atheist has no point in living, because without a higher power, their life and the whole basis of life everywhere, is pointless.

I really is no different than them saying food isn't for eating, or air isn't for breathing, simply because they don't believe that is what it also is created for.

They might as well prove they don't believe in God by killing themselves right now, because if there is no God, then there is no point in them participating in the intelligent design of which they so eagerly utilize to sustain their life.

 Quoting: Osmium76


it goes both ways. Religious people can't proof god is real to.
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Obviously, you believe food is made for you or you wouldn't be here, because if you reject food like some do God, then how would you sustain life?

I can see this goes above your head and I won't argue with someone who cant see the reasoning in this. Just think about the food you eat next time and appreciate the fact that without it, you would starve.

That food serves a purpose to you, as man does to God. Mankind is Gods creation. He is raising a family that is not bound by mortal coil, but only for those who accept this truth.
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Why do you feel you need to convince others about your religious delusions ? Sounds rather arrogant on your part.
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Speak to no atheists. All atheists are thieves, rapists and murderers, because they fear no divine punishment.
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Nothing will convince them unless they're ready to come to the knowledge of truth. They have an inhuman (demonic) rage against God. Very, very angry people that want to take out their hatred on God.
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Science can explain and manipulate the laws of nature. It does explain at all why those law's exists in the 1st place.

e.g.

Everything that uses electricity relies on electrons wanting to maintain a balance between positive and negative. Where did this rule come from?

We know there is Gravity but have no idea how this works on n atomic level over great distances. Where did this force come from?

It goes on and on......


Who created these laws of nature and made up the rules? Are we meant to believe it came from a nothingness?
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Why do you feel you need to convince others about your religious delusions ? Sounds rather arrogant on your part.
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How about I say a prayer for you? It doesn't matter how you feel about it, because it isn't a choice you can make for me, but it is one I can make for you. How is that for arrogance?
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I have a couple buddies who think religion is man-made and only the weak-minded people (better word would be idiots) would believe in them. I generally like to keep it neutral so I tell them everyone is free to believe what they want.

However, they are not satisfied that I am still religious and they try everyday to convince me there is no such thing as God. I tried to keep religion and politics out of our conversations because honestly there really is no right or wrong answer since neither of us can prove anything, but they seem to have an agenda towards my beliefs and wants to free my mind.

I lol inside because nothing can/will change my belief but at the same time, I don't want to jeopardize our friendship over this. Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated...
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Religion is man-made used to control people.

Spirituality is the true path.


You are born with the truth, then taught a lie.





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