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YouCantBeThatStupid
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04/18/2017 12:24 AM
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Ford VOLUNTARILY raised wages for his workers. Minimum wage laws FORCE businesses to pay high wages at the point of a gun.
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Mao Zedong sold china communism at the point of a gum...then he used it on 20 million chinaman..yep..killed em dead,,so...Whats your point?
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04/18/2017 12:25 AM
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Eating out will become obsolete. Home cooking and dining with friends at home will replace restaurants.
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But I don't have any friends, I go out to eat just to be around others and to get a feeling of relevance. I am not joking.
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Friends are over-rated.
Achievements are more important.
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That's pretty much the exact opposite of what Christ taught,
so that would make you......
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hahahahah. I take that back, I do have friends, here in glp, were like a huge family of gifted and special people all competing for each others attention.
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04/18/2017 12:38 AM
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Eating out is a scam. They use the same ingredients you get in any supermarket & charge up to 8x the cost to make.

In the end you get what you pay for and most these restaurant owners only know how to scam people.
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Eating out and sitting down at a restaurant is not even worth it. The overpriced shitty food, the dirty tables, the tipping scam. I don't need my glass full of iced tea every five minutes and some person asking me how my meal is. Fuck it.

Takeout is at least somewhat viable as you walk out the door without worrying about tipping. I guess that's why pizza places and Chinese restaurants do fairly well.
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04/18/2017 12:55 AM
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A better minimum wage isn't the answer! A rebalancing of ALL things money related needs to be done. And this can't be done in just one country, it has to happen around the world for it to work.
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04/18/2017 12:59 AM
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A better minimum wage isn't the answer! A rebalancing of ALL things money related needs to be done. And this can't be done in just one country, it has to happen around the world for it to work.
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Not entirely, a precious metal standard and competing currency system without fractional reserve banking would be a god start.
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04/18/2017 01:05 AM
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.
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Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants

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No pity for businesses that rely on slavery.

Why did the massive hikes in wages at manufacturing jobs not close any factories?

Why did the minimum wage fail to close any businesses in 1970?

Increases for inflation, (true inflation), of education, medicine, housing, energy, and food would have put the minimum wage at closer to $20.00 per hour today.

If you include increases in productivity, it should be closer to $30.00 or $40.00 per hour today.
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Oh, well we have ourselves an economic genius. While I do agree inflation is an issue answer me this, why not pay $100/hr minimum?
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Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74686499


No pity for businesses that rely on slavery.

Why did the massive hikes in wages at manufacturing jobs not close any factories?

Why did the minimum wage fail to close any businesses in 1970?

Increases for inflation, (true inflation), of education, medicine, housing, energy, and food would have put the minimum wage at closer to $20.00 per hour today.

If you include increases in productivity, it should be closer to $30.00 or $40.00 per hour today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74684045


Oh, well we have ourselves an economic genius. While I do agree inflation is an issue answer me this, why not pay $100/hr minimum?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69670014


That would be too high, dipshit. Just because it's too LOW now doesn't mean we should make it too HIGH! Stop being so damn greedy, burger flipper!
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04/18/2017 01:17 AM
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Hate to be a dick but if your only making it with a minimal profit and cant afford to treat your employees well. Then your business model was crap and needed to be replaced in the firat place.

People in 1975 were getting 15.00 an hour working at Sears warehouse. Their rent was 400.00 a month on a now 380,000.00 home.

They literally bought in at 20k and made a quarter million paying off the home in several years.

I can work two jobs beyond full time and I barely make the 2.00 daily bus fare by the weeks end-

Its too preposterous to continue to allow this. The inflation needs to be reduced as everyone in the nation is impacted by it.

If that means full on collapse of todays markets. If that is what it takes. So be it;
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Remember the other day when several people were pointing out all the leftist shills that have invaded this site? The ones who beg for the government to pick the winners and losers? Yep, found one.
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04/18/2017 01:19 AM
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Eating out will become obsolete. Home cooking and dining with friends at home will replace restaurants.
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Erm no.
In Europe restaurant staff gets paid 3 times the amount of US staff and we still have restaurants, what will change is tipping.

More base salary = less tips.
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04/18/2017 01:19 AM
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A better minimum wage is the only alternative.

It doesn't damage good businesses because it is a level playing field.

No business suffers any more than any other business, because they all must pay the wage.

The object for the business then becomes to hire the best employees.

There would be more unemployment, but people would sort it out the best way available. Women would stay home to raise and educate children, cook meals, clean house, etc., and men would be able to support them.

Bad employees would quickly be fired.


People would rise to the occasion, and the economy would go like a powerhouse.

Money would really trickle down to people who work, and it would be very difficult to maintain mansions, luxuries, and wealth.

Men without families would accumulate enough capital to make capitalism work through innovation and entrepreneurship.

That's the way it used to be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74684045


And what about the guy who makes double the minimum today? Suddenly tomorrow high school kids make more than him? Are you really that fucking stupid?
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04/18/2017 01:28 AM
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Does anyone get the feeling that anyone supporting the police state now is a paid NSA shill?

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04/18/2017 01:33 AM
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Walmart tells their new employees how to apply for welfare, because their wages are so low that they qualify for it.

That says all you need to know. Taxpayers are subsidizing the massive profits of multi-billion dollar corporations.

Minimum wage should be exactly what it was during our biggest economic boom HISTORICALLY, adjusted for inflation. And it should AUTOMATICALLY change each year to adjust for the latest inflation rates, so it's not insanely low (or high) for months or years or decades while our politicians argue whether or not it should change.
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Found the guy who failed math.
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04/18/2017 01:42 AM
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The state is a force incarnate. Worse, it is the silly parading of force. It never seeks to prevail by persuasion. Whenever it thrusts its finger into anything it does so in the most unfriendly way. Its essence is command and compulsion.
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Re: Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants
Ford VOLUNTARILY raised wages for his workers. Minimum wage laws FORCE businesses to pay high wages at the point of a gun.
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Which, when implemented in the mid-20th century, led to the biggest economic boom in the history of the world.

If you'd rather have your workers on taxpayer-funded welfare than pay a modern livinvg wage, fuck you.
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See how the statist, government loving, Bernie voter spins his argument. Pay attention GLPers.
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Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74686499


No pity for businesses that rely on slavery.

Why did the massive hikes in wages at manufacturing jobs not close any factories?

Why did the minimum wage fail to close any businesses in 1970?

Increases for inflation, (true inflation), of education, medicine, housing, energy, and food would have put the minimum wage at closer to $20.00 per hour today.

If you include increases in productivity, it should be closer to $30.00 or $40.00 per hour today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74684045


Oh, well we have ourselves an economic genius. While I do agree inflation is an issue answer me this, why not pay $100/hr minimum?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69670014


That would be too high, dipshit. Just because it's too LOW now doesn't mean we should make it too HIGH! Stop being so damn greedy, burger flipper!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72664315


You are projecting. I'm libertarian and don't believe in minimum wage laws at all. Kick rocks, cause your pissing up the wrong tree.
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Re: Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants
Walmart tells their new employees how to apply for welfare, because their wages are so low that they qualify for it.

That says all you need to know. Taxpayers are subsidizing the massive profits of multi-billion dollar corporations.

Minimum wage should be exactly what it was during our biggest economic boom HISTORICALLY, adjusted for inflation. And it should AUTOMATICALLY change each year to adjust for the latest inflation rates, so it's not insanely low (or high) for months or years or decades while our politicians argue whether or not it should change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72664315


Found the guy who failed math.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69670014


[link to www.forbes.com (secure)]

Walmart workers cost taxpayers $6.2 BILLION in welfare benefits because they aren't being paid a living wage.

If your solution to that is "cut welfare benefits," then either you ain't so good at math yourself, or you want the economy to collapse.
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04/18/2017 01:49 AM
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Re: Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants
Ford VOLUNTARILY raised wages for his workers. Minimum wage laws FORCE businesses to pay high wages at the point of a gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74686499


Which, when implemented in the mid-20th century, led to the biggest economic boom in the history of the world.

If you'd rather have your workers on taxpayer-funded welfare than pay a modern livinvg wage, fuck you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72664315


See how the statist, government loving, Bernie voter spins his argument. Pay attention GLPers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69670014


Talk about spin, turning a Trump-voting nationalist into a government-loving Bernie voter because he uses facts.
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04/18/2017 02:02 AM
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Huh?

The government should have high minimum wage laws to magically make everyone rich or have welfare and if there is no debt-fueled welfare then the economy will collapse?

Why not just have no minimum wage and no welfare and let the free market decide what prices should be?
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04/18/2017 02:05 AM
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Huh?

The government should have high minimum wage laws to magically make everyone rich or have welfare and if there is no debt-fueled welfare then the economy will collapse?

Why not just have no minimum wage and no welfare and let the free market decide what prices should be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74686499


I'm sure that works wonderfully in your country, Chinaman, but I don't believe it would Make America Great Again.
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04/18/2017 02:09 AM
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If tyranny failed in the USSR, Cambodia, and Nazi Germany then why are Americans embracing it?
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04/18/2017 02:12 AM
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If tyranny failed in the USSR, Cambodia, and Nazi Germany then why are Americans embracing it?
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LOL, Nazi Germany never had a minimum wage.

Germany approved their first-ever minimum wage laws in 2014.
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04/18/2017 02:22 AM
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Not many people would say Nazi Germany was a free country.

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04/18/2017 02:23 AM
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Eating out will become obsolete. Home cooking and dining with friends at home will replace restaurants.
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Hahahahaahahahah you're funny
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Not many people would say Nazi Germany was a free country.

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Jesse Owens would.
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04/18/2017 02:30 AM
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How would you feel if you wanted to buy a $3 hamburger, but the government said hamburgers must cost at least $4?

How would you feel if you wanted to sell your home for $100,000, but the government said houses cannot be sold for over $80,000?

Do people have any responsibility for working for a low wage? If the minimum wage is $1 per hour and you accept it, who's fault is that?

If you want more money, work harder, learn a skill, or start a business. You cannot get wealth by decree.

Do you think raising the minimum wage will reduce prices?
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04/18/2017 02:36 AM
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Re: Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants
How would you feel if you wanted to buy a $3 hamburger, but the government said hamburgers must cost at least $4?

How would you feel if you wanted to sell your home for $100,000, but the government said houses cannot be sold for over $80,000?

Do people have any responsibility for working for a low wage? If the minimum wage is $1 per hour and you accept it, who's fault is that?

If you want more money, work harder, learn a skill, or start a business. You cannot get wealth by decree.

Do you think raising the minimum wage will reduce prices?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74686499


Communist Chinese propaganda on GLP! Crazy.
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04/18/2017 04:03 AM
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The US is just as Communist as China is now.

Disgusting.
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Democrat rule always destroys economies.
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Oh, I thought it was usury, my mistake.....
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None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.


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