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The Bible - and what BOTH the Father and His Son say about scripture - is CLEAR when it warns of changing their words. This topic, and the evidence given, proves that folks claiming a specific doctrine are rewording Bible verses that promote their specific doctrine.

Wow. This is deception at it's most subtle form.

How ironic that I posted a topic about the subject 2 days ago.

Today, I was watching the below video for the first time, thinking it was about the what the title states.

The video starts out with various points about creation and "who created God".

At about the 34 minute mark, the youtuber starts showing Bible verses.

Suddenly, at 36:31 of the video, Matthew 5:48 is shown on the screen as saying....

"For I am the perfect father".

But when you look at various translations of Matthew 5:48...

[link to www.biblestudytools.com (secure)]

They all say "your Father" or "your Heavenly Father".

Not "I"

Here's a screenshot

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Then, at 36.34 of the video Matthew 6:31-33 is shown on the screen as saying.

"I am your provider, and I meet all your needs".

That's 3 verses?

But when you look at various translations of Matthew 6:31-33 ...

[link to www.biblestudytools.com (secure)]

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...verse 32 says "your Father" or "your Heavenly Father", and you see that what the video showed isn't even close to what the Bible states.

Here's the screenshot

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Here's the video. Check for yourselves.


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I wonder how many folks would watch that video and think that those are the actual Bible verses?

This has nothing to do with translational errors.

It's blatant misrepresentation of what the Bible says.

Cue in the "Jesus IS the Father Himself" to start claiming that this is perfectly acceptable.

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Even used as part of a sermon.

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Wow. This is deception at it's most subtle form.

How ironic that I posted a topic about the subject 2 days ago.

Today, I was watching the below video for the first time, thinking it was about the what the title states.

The video starts out with various points about creation and "who created God".

At about the 34 minute mark, the youtuber starts showing Bible verses.

Suddenly, at 36:31 of the video, Matthew 5:48 is shown on the screen as saying....

"For I am the perfect father".

But when you look at various translations of Matthew 5:48...

[link to www.biblestudytools.com (secure)]

They all say "your Father" or "your Heavenly Father".

Not "I"

Here's a screenshot

0-548

Then, at 36.34 of the video Matthew 6:31-33 is shown on the screen as saying.

"I am your provider, and I meet all your needs".

That's 3 verses?

But when you look at various translations of Matthew 6:31-33 ...

[link to www.biblestudytools.com (secure)]

[link to www.biblestudytools.com (secure)]

[link to www.biblestudytools.com (secure)]

...verse 32 says "your Father" or "your Heavenly Father", and you see that what the video showed isn't even close to what the Bible states.

Here's the screenshot

0-632

Here's the video. Check for yourselves.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



 Quoting: TheLordsServant



I have a 1952 RSV bible and it says as you point out

I'm not JW (I'm non denom and go strictly by the bible God's and Jesus' word)but i'm of the same belief...Jesus is the SON of God.

i bought this old bible for that reason...they are changing/manipulating the bible too much in the last few decades
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This appears to be the "origin" of the deceptional verses.

"Father’s Love Letter"

According to this site...

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They posted it with permission from...

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Genesis 1

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



Matthew 26:39

And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.


Scriptures are very clear , satan tries to confuse
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From a gnostic point of view, Yeshua is now the father. By joining The Father he has become The Father and the next and final earthy incarnation we will see will be The Son. There’s a bunch of verses in revelation where Jesus talks about making “He who overcometh” into his son and Jesus acting as the father.

Many Christians misinterpret “he who overcometh” as referring to all Christians but this is an error because “He who overcometh” is specifically alluded to as an element of YHWH who is equal to Yeshua and they are above the 24 elders in Revelation 4:4

Christians also find error because why would Jesus need to give authority to himself? So “He Who Overcometh” can’t be Jesus right? It seems paradoxical? But Jesus says he was given authority from the father. And we understand that they are one being.

Paulinests don’t like idea of ascendency when in comes to YHWH/Yeshua because it conflicts with Paul’s celestial ideas of The Word being with god but I think the idea of a greater and lesser YHWH is a concurrent theme even in the Old Testament

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From a gnostic point of view, Yeshua is now the father. By joining the father he has become the father and th next incarnation we will see will be the son. There’s a bunch of verses in revelation where Jesus talks about making “he who overcometh” into his son and Jesus acting as the father.

Many Christians misinterpret “he who overcometh” as referring to all Christians but this is an error because “he who overcometh” is specifically alluded to as an element of YHWH who is equal to Yeshua and they are above the 24 elders in revelation
 Quoting: Dionysus


That is not what Gnosis believes, as gnosis means wisdom or mystery, and there are many different gnosis beliefs. Never heard of that one.

We achieve Higher Mind. But Law of One isn't true. You are you, I am me, we are individual infinite beings.

I and my Father are one and the same! That is in the bible. (John 10:30)

I believe God may be Jesus's Higher Self and He's a very advanced soul. However you don't merge with others, you are yourself and so is He.

But not the old testament god, that was an annanuki. And not a good one. But for that just switched to fundamental because its really hard to do the gnosis with such bad material. Refuse actually. Don't think the material is suitable to be taught to children either.

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Genesis 1

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



Matthew 26:39

And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.


Scriptures are very clear , satan tries to confuse
 Quoting: Goofy for God


while satan and his may set the traps, be sure we are the ones who chose to walk into them... and men can also do their fair share of work toward confusion.

It is no surprise that people have been since the beginning also either bolstered truth with lies (as if the truth was not enough) or needed some help.

With the multitudes of translations and transliteration it is very tricky to say... just let the Bible (or should I say Bibles say what they say... except sadly they HAVE been corrupted. I believe the Textus Receptus to be the accurate manuscript and if you disagree that is fine. It is what I believe, and these manuscripts are clear on the matter, to the degree with which God wants for it to be clear.

You may well think you know the facts...in the end we will each get to see for sure...so hang in there
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Furthermore and finally Paulinests seem to think of the stations of Father and Son as being immutable when that’s clearly not the case. Gnostics are most approximate in my opinion by understanding the ascendant or even cyclical nature of the entity (YHWH)

The whole point of the transfiguration of Yeshua was that he goes through a rite of passage in order to attain his divinity. The divinity is destined but not an innate thing. YHWH is the identity of the entity encompassing both mortality and divinity, man and god. This is what makes YHWH more distinct than Baal or other Caanite gods, he’s not purely celestial.
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From a gnostic point of view, Yeshua is now the father. By joining the father he has become the father and th next incarnation we will see will be the son. There’s a bunch of verses in revelation where Jesus talks about making “he who overcometh” into his son and Jesus acting as the father.

Many Christians misinterpret “he who overcometh” as referring to all Christians but this is an error because “he who overcometh” is specifically alluded to as an element of YHWH who is equal to Yeshua and they are above the 24 elders in revelation
 Quoting: Dionysus


That is not what Gnosis believes, as gnosis means wisdom or mystery, and there are many different gnosis beliefs. Never heard of that one.

We achieve Higher Mind. But Law of One isn't true. You are you, I am me, we are individual infinite beings.

I and my Father are one and the same! That is in the bible. (John 10:30)

I believe God may be Jesus's Higher Self and He's a very advanced soul. However you don't merge with others, you are yourself and so is He.

But not the old testament god, that was an annanuki. And not a good one. But for that just switched to fundamental because its really hard to do the gnosis with such bad material. Refuse actually. Don't think the material is suitable to be taught to children either.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


I’m not going to get into an argument with you but I’ll just say Mysterion means mystery, Sophia means wisdom and Gnosis means knowing. With all do respect I’m not going to address the stuff about the aliens but I can assure you you’re mislead darling.
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I and my Father are One.


and just in case you think you, are the superior translator and all the Church's and theologians since the Church was formed, for nearly 2000 years, are wrong.

The next line confirms what they thought he meant:


John 10:31
Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him.

325 AD the Council of Nicea was the formation of the Church trying to dictate one set of beliefs as its truly gnosis.

And they wanted power. But that is the Church in fundamental terms, literal following those scriptures. There are now, to this day, many many fundamental Church's.

But they follow the originial, Christ is God.

So while you may believe differently, and many Christians do, you are arguing against the entire religion. That's your imperative, but please stop dictating to the Christians.

[link to www.usccb.org]

What they belief, the tennants, the nicene creed.


Only going to quote the first paragraph and a half:


I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,

begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.

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I and my Father are One.


and just in case you think you, are the superior translator and all the Church's and theologians since the Church was formed, for nearly 2000 years, are wrong.

The next line confirms what they thought he meant:


John 10:31
Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him.

325 AD the Council of Nicea was the formation of the Church trying to dictate one set of beliefs as its truly gnosis.

And they wanted power. But that is the Church in fundamental terms, literal following those scriptures. There are now, to this day, many many fundamental Church's.

But they follow the originial, Christ is God.

So while you may believe differently, and many Christians do, you are arguing against the entire religion. That's your imperative, but please stop dictating to the Christians.

[link to www.usccb.org]

What they belief, the tennants, the nicene creed.


Only going to quote the first paragraph and a half:


I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,

begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


I don’t know how that changes the definition of the word Gnosis. Gnosis is not a synonym for mystery or wisdom. Gnosis could be understood as a sort of intuitive knowledge but the initial explanation you gave is incorrect. When I say Gnosisism I mean it as a form of Christianity not belonging to Pauline theology. I often need to criticize Pauline theology and offer a disambiguation to readers.

If I have to argue against a religion to be an advocate truth, I will.
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John 10:30 I and my Father are One.

and just in case you think you, are the superior translator and all the Church's and theologians since the Church was formed, for nearly 2000 years, are wrong.

The next line confirms what they thought he meant:

John 10:31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him.

325 AD the Council of Nicea was the formation of the Church trying to dictate one set of beliefs as its truly gnosis.

And they wanted power. But that is the Church in fundamental terms, literal following those scriptures. There are now, to this day, many many fundamental Church's.

But they follow the originial, Christ is God.

So while you may believe differently, and many Christians do, you are arguing against the entire religion. That's your imperative, but please stop dictating to the Christians.

[link to www.usccb.org]

What they belief, the tennants, the nicene creed.

Only going to quote the first paragraph and a half:

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,

begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


To say that John 10:30 "the Father and I are one" equating to "Jesus IS the Father Himself" completely IGNORES the verse that directly precedes it.

John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

This verse, and dozens of others, make it clear that the Father is superior to Jesus, the Son of God. The Father has authority over Jesus, as Jesus states numerous that He does ONLY the Father's Will.

Jesus is NOT the Father Himself.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study
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Now then...back to the OP TOPIC. hi

The "Father's Love Letter" takes several verses, especially the ones from the New Testament, and completely rewords them.

This is completely against God's Will AND is a slap in the face to not only the the Father's warnings, but to the warnings given by Jesus and various prophets.

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I’m not going to get into an argument with you but I’ll just say Mysterion means mystery, Sophia means wisdom and Gnosis means knowing. With all do respect I’m not going to address the stuff about the aliens but I can assure you you’re mislead darling.
 Quoting: Dionysus


I would appreciate it if you folks would stick to the topic subject.
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John 10:30 I and my Father are One.

and just in case you think you, are the superior translator and all the Church's and theologians since the Church was formed, for nearly 2000 years, are wrong.

The next line confirms what they thought he meant:

John 10:31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him.

325 AD the Council of Nicea was the formation of the Church trying to dictate one set of beliefs as its truly gnosis.

And they wanted power. But that is the Church in fundamental terms, literal following those scriptures. There are now, to this day, many many fundamental Church's.

But they follow the originial, Christ is God.

So while you may believe differently, and many Christians do, you are arguing against the entire religion. That's your imperative, but please stop dictating to the Christians.

[link to www.usccb.org]

What they belief, the tennants, the nicene creed.

Only going to quote the first paragraph and a half:

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,

begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


To say that John 10:30 "the Father and I are one" equating to "Jesus IS the Father Himself" completely IGNORES the verse that directly precedes it.

John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

This verse, and dozens of others, make it clear that the Father is superior to Jesus, the Son of God. The Father has authority over Jesus, as Jesus states numerous that He does ONLY the Father's Will.

Jesus is NOT the Father Himself.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study
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Now then...back to the OP TOPIC. hi

The "Father's Love Letter" takes several verses, especially the ones from the New Testament, and completely rewords them.

This is completely against God's Will AND is a slap in the face to not only the the Father's warnings, but to the warnings given by Jesus and various prophets.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


But Jesus assumes the station of The Father in Revelation and prophesies his “Son”

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Now then...back to the OP TOPIC. hi

The "Father's Love Letter" takes several verses, especially the ones from the New Testament, and completely rewords them.

This is completely against God's Will AND is a slap in the face to not only the the Father's warnings, but to the warnings given by Jesus and various prophets.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


But Jesus assumes the station of The Father in Revelation and prophesies his “Son”
 Quoting: Dionysus


God Gave Jesus (the man AND Son of God) the Revelation

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place; and He sent and communicated {it} by His angel to His bond-servant John, (NAS)

Note that “God gave” Jesus Christ the “Revelation.” If Jesus is God in heaven, then why does he need another God to give him the revelation? Obviously this proves God is a separate entity than Jesus.

It's how Jesus sits at the right-hand of the Father.

The Word Of God and Testimony Of Jesus Are Separate.

Last warning. Address the specific topic of the OP or else.

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Revelation 21:7

“He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.” - Jesus
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Revelation 21:7

“He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.” - Jesus
 Quoting: Dionysus


Here, Jesus Christ is clearly prophesying that he will assume the station of God or Father and another ascending aspect (presumably of himself) will become the Son & anointed figure. Some particularly keen theologians identify this aspect as The Other Paraclete but it’s clear Jesus is speaking to himself when he says “He Who Overcometh”.

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Revelation 21:7

“He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.” - Jesus
 Quoting: Dionysus


Revelation 22

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

Numerous scripture passages state that Jesus sits at the Father's right hand.

Others state that Jesus is the Lamb of God.

Therefore, the throne verses in Revelation show BOTH the Father AND Jesus the Lamb on the throne.


If you wish to debate the issue of Jesus & the Father, kindly do it in an appropriate topic thread.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study

Thread: Jesus is the Son of God, not "God the Son"

Thread: Jesus Christ claiming to be the Father God Almighty in his own words in 2 verses

The purpose of this thread is the changing of extablished scripture.

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Another problematic verse for your theory that Jesus isn’t or can’t be The Father is Revelation 2:26-28
.......
 Quoting: Dionysus


I sense I’m annoying you but I want to say this last thing.
 Quoting: Dionysus


Since you ignore my requests in this topic, kindly continue discussion here.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study (Page 4)
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Did you delete my reply?
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Go to the link above.

I quoted BOTH your posts and gave my replies.
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They are building another cross to nail him on when he returns.
He sees all from his lofty perch, riding on a cloud.
They need to leave the hammers at home.
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Won't happen.

When He returns there will be no more non-Believers.

And there will be 1000 years of peace.

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The Bible - and what BOTH the Father and His Son say about scripture - is CLEAR when it warns of changing their words. This topic, and the evidence given, proves that folks claiming a specific doctrine are rewording Bible verses that promote their specific doctrine.
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The Bible - and what BOTH the Father and His Son say about scripture - is CLEAR when it warns of changing their words. This topic, and the evidence given, proves that folks claiming a specific doctrine are rewording Bible verses that promote their specific doctrine.
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Every version of the bible even aramaic, is quite clear. You think you can cherry pick passages you like and pretend the ones you don't are some fake thing.

Because of that you have a very immature view of Christianity.
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As a Christian I focus on the man's life and works. The rest is just decoration.
I have found when you treat others as He instructed us to, good things happen.

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The Bible - and what BOTH the Father and His Son say about scripture - is CLEAR when it warns of changing their words. This topic, and the evidence given, proves that folks claiming a specific doctrine are rewording Bible verses that promote their specific doctrine.
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The Bible - and what BOTH the Father and His Son say about scripture - is CLEAR when it warns of changing their words. This topic, and the evidence given, proves that folks claiming a specific doctrine are rewording Bible verses that promote their specific doctrine.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Every version of the bible even aramaic, is quite clear. You think you can cherry pick passages you like and pretend the ones you don't are some fake thing.

Because of that you have a very immature view of Christianity.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Cherry pick passages?

Have you noticed the folks cherry picking VERSES?

The doctrine postulated by doing that IS refuted by looking at the WHOLE passages that those verses come from.

You need to go back and look at the entire body of evidence that I present before you make accusational statements.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study

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