Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 231239 United States 06/13/2007 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved and how can we explain diamonds? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247199i wonder if time is not what we think it is? I'm talking about the beautifully preserved plant structures, numerous remains of insects, hairs, feathers spiders, annelids, frogs, crustaceans and other small organisms that have been found inside the Amber that lived millions of years ago |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 251220 Germany 06/13/2007 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved No evolution and millions of years with mankind around 6000 years. Damn. That doesn't contradict science or the Bible! Well I'll be! Your all being dialectically duped into believing the lesser of two "evils". Its a classic tactic of the "illuminated", they got you exactly where they want you. |
Shady User ID: 9898 United States 06/13/2007 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved First off, there are different levels of "creationists". I think the ones that believe the world is only 6000 years old are called "Literal Creationists" or something like that. They will tell you that God created the world just like it is, with fossils and such to fool use (some god!). Other creationists belive that time is irrelevant to God (thousand years like unto one day) so that God could have created the earth/universe etc a long time ago. I personally have no conflict regarding that the universe was created by an omnipotent/omnipresent "being", and that evolution is also employed by said being to advance things along, including the possible manipulation of genes by other beings, and is a direct reflection of the spiritual realm which exists outside of time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 251134 United States 06/13/2007 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved [link to www.creationscience.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 251134 United States 06/13/2007 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved First off, there are different levels of "creationists". I think the ones that believe the world is only 6000 years old are called "Literal Creationists" or something like that. They will tell you that God created the world just like it is, with fossils and such to fool use (some god!). Other creationists belive that time is irrelevant to God (thousand years like unto one day) so that God could have created the earth/universe etc a long time ago. Quoting: Shady 9898Actually the fossils were all brought about in the global flood, the one that formed the Grand Canyon, that's why there are fossil grave yards and the mammals are toward the top, because they float. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 251241 Canada 06/13/2007 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved and how can we explain diamonds? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247199i wonder if time is not what we think it is? You missed the point. The point is that Amber was formed millions of years ago and sometimes there are insects entombed within the amber bubbles. Bees, ants, spiders, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 251220 Germany 06/13/2007 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved First off, there are different levels of "creationists". I think the ones that believe the world is only 6000 years old are called "Literal Creationists" or something like that. They will tell you that God created the world just like it is, with fossils and such to fool use (some god!). Other creationists belive that time is irrelevant to God (thousand years like unto one day) so that God could have created the earth/universe etc a long time ago. Quoting: Shady 9898I personally have no conflict regarding that the universe was created by an omnipotent/omnipresent "being", and that evolution is also employed by said being to advance things along, including the possible manipulation of genes by other beings, and is a direct reflection of the spiritual realm which exists outside of time. Yep. But one question: Macroevolution (ie. from unicellular to multicellular - yes or no? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 175411 India 06/13/2007 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved Most of the world's amber is in the range of 30–90 million years old and some contain insects, plants, feathers, hairs and even small lizards that have lived during that time. How could this be if the earth is 6000 years old? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 231239As I explained in another thread earlier - the Bible DOES NOT say this earth is 6000 yrs old. You can believe in 'creation' and still know that the earth is untold millions of yrs old. The creation of mankind simply does NOT have anything to do with the age of the earth. And if you think it does - then you KNOW nothing about the BIBLE. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 247199 United States 06/13/2007 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved Right on OP. This is the perfect question that unravels their yarn about "creation". Insects entombed in Amber. Brilliant! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 251241amber is nothing but hardened sap and the fact that insects were trapped in it hardly refutes a creator and if they sap hardened extra quickly because of a cold snap or flood how can you claim it took millions of years for this to happen? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 247199 United States 06/13/2007 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved and how can we explain diamonds? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 251241i wonder if time is not what we think it is? You missed the point. The point is that Amber was formed millions of years ago and sometimes there are insects entombed within the amber bubbles. Bees, ants, spiders, etc. they say diamonds come from coal under pressure do you know how much pressure and how much time? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 251251 Hungary 06/13/2007 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved Most of the world's amber is in the range of 30–90 million years old and some contain insects, plants, feathers, hairs and even small lizards that have lived during that time. How could this be if the earth is 6000 years old? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 231239It doesn't take millions of years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 247199 United States 06/13/2007 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved and how can we explain diamonds? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 251241i wonder if time is not what we think it is? You missed the point. The point is that Amber was formed millions of years ago and sometimes there are insects entombed within the amber bubbles. Bees, ants, spiders, etc. how do you know how old the tree sap was that formed the amber? do you have a time machine? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 209736 United Kingdom 06/13/2007 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Can the Creationist explain Amber? Which takes millions of years to form and contain insects perfectly preserved This is the thread you all should be reading: [link to godlikeproductions.com] Honestly I think anyone who believes in evolution has thrown logic and reason right out the window. I challenge any evolutionist to outline the basic evidence for evolution for me right here in this thread. |
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