Golden Age of Science Fiction.(1950s-early 70's)..Why doesn't Sci-Fi work anymore? | |
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picesnator User ID: 318318 United States 12/08/2007 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the times were simpler then...no cellphones, no cable TV, we were so innocent in those days...hell, we had rotary dials on the phones!!! AM radios in the cars, 3 on the column...we have become people that can't think or imagine things with our minds.. |
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Munster User ID: 259429 United States 12/08/2007 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it just me? maybe it's just me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 337466The best period of Sci-Fi seemed to be late 60's to early 70's Seems like good Sci-Fi died about 1975. Logan's Run was maybe the last really good Sci-Fi movie I can remember. Anyone want to weigh in on if this is true and ponder why? Originality is out the window. This is apparent if you try to watch a "made for sci-fi channel" movie. I don't think I've seen one of them that rates above zero stars. I mean, there are only so many ways aliens can take over the world. This genre is so used up. Same with slash-em movies. How many more ways can a body be mutilated with the associated high pitched screams of pain. That genre is also used up. Movies, music, sit-coms, and whatever else. Today's product has only remakes and clones all feeding off of originality from the past. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 337466 United States 12/08/2007 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Close Encounters of the Third Kind Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336369The first Star Wars The Terminator John Carpenter's The Thing ET: The Extraterrestrial. Wanna rethink your original post? No, I don't need to rethink my original post, I know what my opinion is, which was all I stated. I just wanted to know what others thought. All those movies you mentioned are great movies, but I still just see them as action movies, even though their descriptions may be sci-fi. What's missing in those movies that the earlier ones had, was that ability to really make you wonder about things, (or at least me) it's just very hard to describe what I mean. The Omega Man Planet of the Apes 2001 a space oddessy While those weren't GREAT movies, they had a certain something that just seems impossible to recreate today. I admit it just be my perspective, but it seems the ability to capture imagination just isn't there anymore. Like the future has already passed us. |
Halcyon Dayz User ID: 337024 Netherlands 12/08/2007 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to do with what is available in print. And remember what Science Fiction author Theodore Sturgeon said: "Ninety percent of everything is crap." (Except crap. One hundred percent of crap is crap. ) And Star Wars is not science fiction. Yikes. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Munster User ID: 259429 United States 12/08/2007 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the times were simpler then...no cellphones, no cable TV, we were so innocent in those days...hell, we had rotary dials on the phones!!! AM radios in the cars, 3 on the column...we have become people that can't think or imagine things with our minds.. Quoting: picesnatorHeh heh, do you remember party lines as part of your phone service? A chat room was a few folks yacking in the living room. My b&w TV had only three channels to choose from, but who cared as there was plenty to do with friends in the real world of flesh and blood interaction. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 337466 United States 12/08/2007 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it just me? maybe it's just me. Quoting: MunsterThe best period of Sci-Fi seemed to be late 60's to early 70's Seems like good Sci-Fi died about 1975. Logan's Run was maybe the last really good Sci-Fi movie I can remember. Anyone want to weigh in on if this is true and ponder why? Originality is out the window. This is apparent if you try to watch a "made for sci-fi channel" movie. I don't think I've seen one of them that rates above zero stars. I mean, there are only so many ways aliens can take over the world. This genre is so used up. Same with slash-em movies. How many more ways can a body be mutilated with the associated high pitched screams of pain. That genre is also used up. Movies, music, sit-coms, and whatever else. Today's product has only remakes and clones all feeding off of originality from the past. I agree with that 100% I can't bear to watch the Sci-Fi channel unless they are showing an old movie. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 337466 United States 12/08/2007 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the times were simpler then...no cellphones, no cable TV, we were so innocent in those days...hell, we had rotary dials on the phones!!! AM radios in the cars, 3 on the column...we have become people that can't think or imagine things with our minds.. Quoting: picesnatorThat's a big part of it I think |
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Hannibal The Cannibal *nli User ID: 326246 United Kingdom 12/09/2007 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry OP, but your wrong, sci-fi does work, its just not been done well recently, and hasn't for a while. Some of the best stuff was a product of the 70's 80's and 90's, people have already mentioned the obvious works, however ill give you all a good 2000-present day list. Donnie Darko Sunshine The Prestige Children of Men Planet Terror (Grindhouse)( More Horror Sci-fi ) V For Vendetta Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind The Man From Earth TV Shows such as 'Firefly' and its spin off movie 'Serenity' you must watch the series first though, and the new series of 'Battlestar Galaxtica' Couple of weeks/months good viewing there with repeated watching and pondering, and thats all stuff from the past 6-7 years, your just not looking in the right places OP, too much mainstream crap romantic comedies and teen movies. Just Look harder, or use wiki. |
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LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 333502 United States 12/09/2007 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading about an astronomer that was going to give a talk, and the taxi driver asked him about Sputnik which had just launched. The taxi driver wondered isn't Sputnik just going to 'bounce around' all the rest of the stars up there? Just open up old books from the period, and we are down right primitive, it's sort of like the adventures of baron Munchausen, in that the stories never get old, just the people, and the places, as does the believability of the whole thing.... I’m doing a bad job of selling this, but check that movie out, it'll probably answer your question in a really round about way.... There is nothing wrong with the Queen & King of the moon, we just know now it's ridiculous. "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 326428 United States 12/09/2007 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I see some of the 1950s sci-fi it seems... uh... to be suggesting something that isn´t fictional. That cartoon Colonel Bleep is a good example, there´s something suspicious about it, almost as if it was conceived in a smoky back room with Enrico Fermi and some top brass from the Air Force |
LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 333502 United States 12/09/2007 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I nearly forgot what I'd call the all time greatest, I'd put over 2001.... Blade Runner. I mean how couldn't you have been blown away by an android that thinks it's human hunting down, and killing fellow androids, that is redeamed by one of the androids that it is sent to kill? NOTHING from the buck rogers days comes even close to this movie. Its such a shame PKD is no longer with us..... "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
Thanatos User ID: 324533 United States 12/09/2007 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The future on Earth is scary; we know that if our population increases at this rate for much longer its going to crash eventually. Everybody knows about peak oil and water shortages and how aircraft allow a virus to hop around the whole world in a day. Can't write science fiction about what's already starting to happen... Rarrgh! |
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LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 333502 United States 12/09/2007 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because we've run out of room to dream. We've sent probes there and there's not much of interest there to go see, except rocks and maybe maybe bacteria. Gone are the days of unlimited imaginative playgrounds and Edgar Rice Burroughs. No more staring through telescopes and thinking we've seen canals. Nothing except the indirect gravitational traces of a few exoplanets to give us room to speculate and bend reality. Not even a space program that's pushing the boundaries of what's possible. Quoting: ThanatosThe future on Earth is scary; we know that if our population increases at this rate for much longer its going to crash eventually. Everybody knows about peak oil and water shortages and how aircraft allow a virus to hop around the whole world in a day. Can't write science fiction about what's already starting to happen... You've done a far better job of explaining it than I.. But then I did qutie like The Adventures of Baron Munchausen ...... "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 317795 United States 12/09/2007 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what´s the most conceptually shocking idea you can think of? (question for anyone) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326428The physical world doesn't work the way scientists imagine. Big things will happen that they will be completely unable to explain. Rules that seemed inviolable will be...violated, in the physical universe. At the same time, certain things that are familiar will be discovered to have uses far beyond what people imagine. For example, there will be ways to heal people with music. (Not relax people. Heal actual diseases.) |
Munster User ID: 259429 United States 12/09/2007 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because we've run out of room to dream. We've sent probes there and there's not much of interest there to go see, except rocks and maybe maybe bacteria. Gone are the days of unlimited imaginative playgrounds and Edgar Rice Burroughs. No more staring through telescopes and thinking we've seen canals. Nothing except the indirect gravitational traces of a few exoplanets to give us room to speculate and bend reality. Not even a space program that's pushing the boundaries of what's possible. Quoting: ThanatosThe future on Earth is scary; we know that if our population increases at this rate for much longer its going to crash eventually. Everybody knows about peak oil and water shortages and how aircraft allow a virus to hop around the whole world in a day. Can't write science fiction about what's already starting to happen... Nicely said. You show some balls...lol |
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