I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

Hello "TWO WITNESSES ",

I am not trying to be a smart butt, but I have a few questions that I believe y'all may be able to help with.

1.) THE RAPTURE, post, pre, or mid tribulation?

2.) What exactly are ghosts?

3.) What exactly does it mean when Jesus says "as in the days of Noah "

4.) Do we go to heaven or hell when we die? Or is there limbo type of deal awaiting us till judgment??

5.) Who is the antichrist?

Thanks for your help

Well, PJ You and I are on the same page as far as Joyce Meyer is concerned.

A little about ther net worth and she isn't the only one.

[link to www.therichest.org]


Rich preachers living alongside poor folks is just wrong on so many levels

Take heart brother,


As in Luke 9 when the disciples (well Peter) finally deduced who Jesus really was He told them not tell anyone.

22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day. 23 ¶And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. 25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away? 26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. 27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

shortly thereafter

28 ¶And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray. 29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering. 30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. 32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him. 33 And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said. 34 While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud. 35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him. 36 And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen.

Hopefully it won't take that in this present world. There will be consequnces

Hello everyone.
Anybody have some knowledge to share about the man-child and his relation with the 2 witnesses?
Thank you for your guidance.
D.

if that is the case and you are the witnesses of Revelation

prey then to tell us how and when you shall die in lieu of such, in exactance

and why it is you are inferenced as being twain as opposed to a singular entity

we expect full disclosure in this regard, lest ye be pegged a fraud

we await such with baited breath...

you now have the floor and our full attention

don't drop the ball in this, your moment of moments, which of course cannot be discerned from "scripture" but must come from within the individual in question, in full

so put down the Book and pull the truth out from beneath your scholarly cap

clock's tickin'

let r rip



lest ye be outted and thereafter known and regarded as a liar in waiting

who ever the 2 witnesses are they will be humble,they do not wish to have a spotlight on them,that is not there mission for instance john the baptist he did not say he was elijah but in spirit although he was deemed worthy he was humble and did his part in jesus's mission. these 2 end time witnesses of god were born with the love of god,but they are human so they have sin but they love there father in heaven even through the rough mission coming ahead of them, I pray for the 2 witnesses of jesus christ so that they my bring Justice to evil beings Amen

Wish you had karma so I could plus you....not ego stroking. You spoke the truth :)

[link to the-two-witnesses-of-god.com]

RockyMtnLady

Dear Anonymous Irish,

Mocking someone else work, even if you do not agree with it is immature and disrespectful.

I'd love to see the webpage you have created to share with the world your deepest believes and convictions. Your Facebook page does not count, sorry.

Elijah mocked the false prophets so keep your stupid opinion to yourself, I don't care for it. That false prophet only deserves mocking and contempt since he has added to the Gospel bringing the curse of Revelation onto him and removing his name from the book of life if it was even there in the first place.

I don't need a webpage, do you really think the two witnesses would have their own websites? lol some of you people are really thick. So mind your damn business heathen.

Revelation 22:18-19

King James Version (KJV)

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Soon he will have his 'everlasting gospel' shite on his website for sale.

lol total fail. Not only does that Scripture NOT speak of the Beast, it is a fallacy to call him the anti-Christ because there are many of those and that is not his title, but it speaks of the Messiah Yeshua. Such fail from the supposed witness of God. No true witness of God would make that stupid mistake. It is so obvious he is a false prophet/teacher but the blind cannot see.

"The following collection of scriptures can be used as a map of the NT time period, for they show us that God's apostolic congregation was overcome by the Antichrist who and which is called "the overspreading of abominations" in Dan 9:27:



"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

As far as I can remember having read what PehJeshuah has written back in time is that he indeed accuses people who preach what they say is the truth for money, in spite of their words being far removed from what can be believed to be of the truth.

Didn't he also say that truth was given to him for FREE and therefore also given by him to others for free?

Why should he then have the free truth of God for sale? It seems like you have nothing better to accuse him of than what is your own prejudice and backbiting!

Why don't you instead prove him wrong on a sober and honest basis instead of trying to hit him with what all people can see is of your own dishonest mind?

I just ask you, though your stupidity shown until now does not give me any reason to believe in a unbiased answer. You need not even answer, for you are already marked as what you call "shite"!

Didn't you yourself also claim to be one of the two witnesses in Rev 11, though without giving us any reason to believe so?

So, who are you? Tell us, so we can believe you!

Blockhead

I know that is you mouth, I know from your writing style and the words that you use. Blockhead? lol it suits you well. Do you think you can fool me? You must be more stupid than I originally thought? I really do think you are suffering from multiple personality disorder? You cannot be both of the two witnesses pj? lol you need meds asap.

You have already been disqualified from being one of the two witnesses because you are not an Israelite and come from the heathen sammi people. lol

You have been defeated. LOL

Now go and lick your wounds.

This is your heading from your absurd website,

"The two witnesses of God speak to you"

Yet only you speak on it. Where is the other one? Are you now claiming to be both?

You try to get away without answering to what I asked you about by side-stepping, but in doing that people see that you are not what you claim to be.

You did not answer to my questions and there is no ground for me to answer to your side-tracking tactics either, not in the least since you are already soundly beaten by the words of PehJeshuah.

Let me tell you the fact: In Norway there is already a considerable number of people who believe, not in PehJeshuah, but in what his testimony given him by God reveals to us.

What about you? Who in Ireland has such a belief in you? Tell us, that we may consider it!

Or else you are just an empty bell of truth!

Blockhead

I don't give pearls to swine,

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. Matthew 7:6

And my other points still stand.

Your kind doesn't deserve to hear my testimony.

Today I had a strange experience. I was out downtown having a meal. Suddenly I noticed that at the table next to mine there was sitting a person that most people would be honoured to be sitting close to.

That person was number one in the chess world (even an all-time oner), Magnus Carlsen, and since I was so close to him and his fellows I could hear some of their talk. What amazes me, and it really does, is how humble that person appears to be, very much removed, as far as I have experienced his manners, from being any haughty person or someone who basks in his own success. No, he does not behave that way but does instead explain everything in a natural non-bloated way, even though he has himself been mobbed in Norway as a youngster because of his interest in chess and his success at that, and, as he said, maybe because of my own immature show of being proud of being good at that. So it was partly also my own fault, he said, excusing his mobbers.

At hearing this I started to think about it if I had myself been in his stead, if I would have been that nice and considerate about those who had mobbed me earlier.

My conclusion was that I would not beat him at that either, and I am glad to experience that such a successful young person is so thoughtful about his surroundings. I learnt a lot from what he said.

That is how Christians should be more willing to be a part of, the humility of being just a human, whatever we else are as to abilities or success in whatever decent field.

Blockhead

If any posters on this thread really were the two witnesses there would be a lot less glp posters and the site would fold.

The two witnesses have the power to breathe fire on anyone that speaks against them.

In this 21st century of wired ways there would be an awful lot of people dropping dead from being shocked from their tech toys.

Nice try though for 500 pages.

What should we then say about the following scriptures?

49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
51 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.
53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and REBUKED them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village. (Luk 9:49-56 KJV)

Blockhead

No where in scripture does it say the two witnesses will be Israelites. You have not refuted him. .


The two witnesses are Christians. Because in Revelation 11 it states that their Lord were crucified.



Fail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What should we say about these scriptures then?

Psalm 137:8 O Babylon, you will be destroyed. Happy is the one who pays you back for what you have done to us.
137:9 Blessed is the one who grabs your babies and smashes them against a rock.

The powers of the two witnesses is consistent with scripture...........

The events of the Second Coming of Christ are found in the Bible, including the Book of Revelation–which is the last book in the New Testament. Jesus will “judge and wage war” (Rev. 19:11), his robe will be “dipped in blood” (19:13), and he will be accompanied by “armies” (19:14) with which he will “strike down the nations” (19:15), including “the Gentiles” in general and “the nations that were opposed to him” in specific. This will result in the “utter destruction of all his enemies”. Furthermore: “in his second coming[,] he will complete their destruction, when he shall put down all opposing rule, principality, and power.”
Once he conquers the infidels, Jesus “will rule them with an iron rod” (19:15). Wayne Blank writes:
The good news is that The Return Of Jesus Christ is going to happen. The even better news is that this time He’s not coming to be sacrificed by the world, but to rule it, along with those who have been faithful and obedient to Him. The world is going to know true peace, and genuine justice, in a way that it has never known before…
How Will World Peace Happen?
…[This will] not [be] by pleading and debate, but with a rod of iron. Those who choose to love and obey Him will be loved, while those who choose to rebel and hate Him will know His wrath.
Jesus will “will release the fierce wrath of God” (19:15) on them, and “he shall execute the severest judgment on the opposers of his truth”. Because of this, “every tribe on earth will mourn because of him” (Rev. 1:7), and they will “express the inward terror and horror of their minds, at his appearing; they will fear his resentment”. Just as the people of Canaan were terrified by the Israelite war machine, so too would the unbelievers “look with trembling upon [Jesus]”. This is repeated in the Gospels, that “the Son of man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn” (Matthew 24:30). “All the nations of the world shall wail when he comes to judgment” and the enemies of Jesus “shall mourn at the great calamities coming upon them”.
Far from the meek prophet of the First Coming, Jesus on his return will command a very strong military force that will “destroy[] every ruler, authority, and power”. Not only is this consistent with the legacy of conquests by the Biblical prophets, it is actually a fulfillment or completion of the task that Moses initiated: holy war and conquest in the name of God. In First Corinthians (part of the New Testament) it is prophesied that instead of loving his enemies, Christ will subdue and humble them under his feet:
1 Corinthians 15:24 [Jesus] will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power.
15:25 For Christ must reign until he humbles all his enemies beneath his feet.
Pastor and Biblical scholar Ron Teed explains that Jesus Christ brought “comfort and salvation at His first coming” but will bring “vengeance on God’s enemies” during his Second Coming. There are thus “two comings of Christ, the first to save, the second to judge”–yet in debates with Muslims it seems that Christians play up the First Coming and completely ignore the Second. The popular Teed Commentaries explains how “vengeance” is for Christ’s enemies (the “unbelievers”) and “comfort” only for his followers (the believers):
The Messiah will bring both comfort and vengeance. He will take vengeance on God’s enemies and bring comfort to His people. This is a summary of the mission of Christ. He brought comfort and salvation at His first coming during His earthly ministry according to Luke…
However, He said nothing of taking vengeance on God’s enemies at that time, for that part of his mission will not be fulfilled till He returns triumphant…
[There are] two comings of Christ, the first to save, the second to judge.
In His First coming He did the things mentioned in Isaiah 61:1-2; in His Second Coming He will do the things in verses 2-3. When He returns He will bring judgment on unbelievers. This will be the day of God’s “vengeance.”
The ever popular Evangelical site GotQuestions.org sums it up nicely:
Jesus’ second coming will be exceedingly violent. Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ, the conquering commander who judges and makes war “with justice” (v. 11). It’s going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies, whom He will conquer completely and consign to a “fiery lake of burning sulfur” (v. 20).

[link to www.loonwatch.com]

PehJeshuah

You do not exalt God. That is evidence that you are false. You exalt yourself. And your pride goes before your fall. The two witnesses will not point to themselves but to him they are witnesses for.



Last Edited by Thaumaturgus on 07/04/2013 04:04 AM

"No where in scripture does it say the two witnesses will be Israelites. You have not refuted him."

God has always used his people to be his servents/prophets so yes, they will of course be Israelites. When I say Israelites, I do not mean the Jews or those from the House of Judah but Israelites from the 'lost' tribes of Israel. They are described as the two olive trees and that is a reference to the House of Israel. Also, they are compared with two Israelites, Joshua the high priest and Zerubbabel so how could they then descend from a heathen people? You don't have a clue what you're talking about. The two witnesses are also described using language only associated with Levites, 'They stand before the Lord of the Earth'. This same language can be found in the Torah. Also, God would only use people from either the House of Israel or the House of Judah to be his servants/prophets because otherwise, his people would not listen to them. Not once has he used a person outside of his people and I can't see him doing it now at the very end. So you are a wrong, yes I have refuted him, he is disqualified because he descends from the sammi heathens. The book of Zachariah is the first book to mention the two witnesses, a book written by those from the House of Judah, do you really think it is referring to Gentiles being the two witnesses. Of course not.


And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof. Zachariah 4:3

These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. Revelation 11:4

They are referred to as two olive trees, this refers to their Israelite heritage, and then they are described as two candlesticks, this refers to their Christian faith. They will be two Christians from the 'lost' tribes of Israel.

You are the fail you simpleton.

You seem confused. Make up your mind.

Oh I see you think to disagree with someone you must support his enemies.
Wrong.

Last Edited by Thaumaturgus on 07/04/2013 10:48 AM