Why I dislike Stuart Wilde

it's not a surpise the Australian police is looking for SW. it's no surprise he cannot be caught by the police anywhere. officially resides at 8A The Village Wall, Onchan, Isle of Man 1M3 4EA, UK, but he never goes there. it's lishman's house. SW is a tax fraud, he doesn't pay american nor UK nor Canadian tax, while getting lots of money from seminars and products. he leeches money from taxpayers while defrauding his own tax, his gold coins are in the London silver vaults.

Please post were you found these facts on the internet. There are no such articles on the internet or anywhere. Please don't post fall lies. I too love debunking SW and all his BS, but we want truth not lies

I asked and the company is in good standing with all taxes paid up and SW has not lived in the UK for 37 years so there are no taxes due.

SW pays taxes in five different countries and none of those taxes are outstanding as they are deducted at source, before he is paid.

Also, he doesn't work. His total income is less than 12,000
a year after taxes.

You should stop lying while you still can.

Last Edited by Oak on 11/01/2012 12:24 PM

yeah right, the redeemers club netted him only 12000...

the LV seminars, the Ecu gigs, the light pen scams...he pays ZERO taxes.

you should stop trying to cover up while you can. it's obvious you're one of his minions.

NOTE: Truth is important..

He only makes 12k a year, were are you finding that. That should pretty low for a guy who sells so much stuff on the net. Hi pays taxes in five different countries, were did you find that? Put up or shut up

This board is about truth and that smells like shit. If you have the evidence please post it or shut up

I have to agree with you Red-Phil post sounds like a bunch of BS. I want to see were he got his info.

Thanks for you post of truth!

The Redeemers Club closed 4 years ago...

Stuart has not worked for over three years then this year he went to Las Vegas for a gig with Khris and Tom, he only does the healings nowadays, he doesn't charge and he does not
accept donations. He sold the products like the Avalon mist
at costs and the people that worked on them didn't charge. They worked for free.

Stuart refuses to have anything to do with money and he doesn't want other people's money ...period full stop ...you can't bitch at that...Stuart is a very kind person and he'd help you no matter how dark you are or anyone ...if you/they were in a crisis or sick.

One of Sw's people told me he drove 13 hours to visit a cancer patient that was in trouble. He has saved many people that were dying, so in the end he doesn't need your approval..does he?

How I know these facts is I spent 9 months with him working part time on graphics and helping the gardener. Then I left and went to India.

Last Edited by Oak on 11/03/2012 11:14 AM

You are so Stupid

Stuart doesn't make money. Just open your fucking eyes and look at how much he promotes his e-course.

Dump fucking moron!!!!

We want facts, not your bullshito!!!

Got to another website this is about truth and debunking that Fraud Stuart Wilde.

More Like Stuart Wilde Gone Crazy:)

You are so Stupid

Stuart doesn't make money. Just open your fucking eyes and look at how much he promotes his e-course.

Dump fucking moron!!!!

We want facts, not your bullshito!!!

Got to another website this is about truth and debunking that Fraud Stuart Wilde.

More Like Stuart Wilde Gone Crazy:)

SW doesn't charge?!?!?!

directly from his sales office:
VIP Ticket - SW Spiritual Healings 8th December 2012 (Non-Refundable) €280.00

red pill bullshit you are such a liar, you must be stuart himself. so here's a message to you: your time is coming to an end. you screwed over enough people, your karma is waiting to hit you full frontal. I'll help with it and inform the tax authorities. there's nothing more gratifying than hitting the fraudster where it hurts him most...

I love this post of truth and fact.

Thanks for posting details and debunking SW

Is this Stuart of Khris, either way we don't buy your shit.

Go sell some more glow in the dark pens:)

How to Register and Attend

This is a semi-private event. If you have attended the tapping before with S. Wilde or K. Krepcik we’ll accept your registration automatically. If you have NOT attended before, we’d like you to send us an email saying why you would like to come and enclose a picture of yourself. We’ll put you on the waiting list and we’ll let you know on or before November 20th. Stuart will reserve some places (about 10) for newcomers.


Now you have to send picture of yourself if you want to go to Stuart Wilde's events. IS STUART PLANNING ON HAVING SEX WITH THE WOMAN OR IN HIS CASE THE GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Danger Danger Will Robinson:)


I found This Picture Of Stuart Wilde at one of his events

About the December gig, thats different from the healings. That's a full gig where they rent a large venue which costs a fortune. They of course have to charge enough to cover at least some of the costs.

You are just a grimpy little baby in diapers...throwing the perversions of your own little head on to other people. Come back when you grow up. You are being juvenile and silly. Stuart does not have an e-course...the RC closed years before. You should stop inventing stuff before ....

Hi Stuart How Great it is for you to promote yourself here. We all know you are a fraud, so don't bother, BRO!

This guy doesn't even have his facts correct. GuruBegone:)

Get a life. Stuart is wasted up and you are a suck for following him. If you have real facts post them, if not

Hit's Official Stuart Wilde and his Butt Butty Khris are now posting here. Be-warned we have done a trace on them via the next and they are the ones posting this Garbage!

No facts, Just Bullshit.

Stuart Doesn't have any Ecourse. You are fucking stupid, just visit his website you will see lots.

"no, he overcharges for seminars, for products and light pens that don't work. I saw him at seminars he doesn't give a fuck about people. it's all about making money and more money. he screwed over a lot of people pretending to help them, but he screwed them over.

he's a piece of trash."



* Clever Lad (everyone can tell given the immaturity for the change he craves) with many facts not influenced by his own psychiatric condition attacking with his army obsessed with one man on escape with the freedom he so desires.



"Hi Stuart How Great it is for you to promote yourself here. We all know you are a fraud, so don't bother, BRO!

This guy doesn't even have his facts correct. GuruBegone:)

Get a life. Stuart is wasted up and you are a suck for following him. If you have real facts post them, if not."



* Do you think a multimillionaire and author/lecturer with his kind of networks, contacts and associates would waste their time posting here and pissing around some prat like you that has offered this web page fuck all except being gutless, calling yourself stupid names like "Fighting American" (on a forum?), wimpy complaining & diatribe after the topics pertaining to life and death that have been written on this forum?!? You have no perception and I'm not talking about new age stuff either as I don't believe in religion or god anyway, I'm referring to intellect.

There's some things that Stuart says of which are worth it and so he sells products and even though I'm not really too into god bothering I admire him for his success, other stuff perhaps pisses me off but that's my own fears and frustration with being on earth - existential discomfort, we all have it.

With your small statements you are trying to explain then put it in detail here, or perhaps better not to bother because after all, considering what you've posted, this forum is a waste of time for most people like you with problems in their lives &/or suffer from mental illness. A lot of people that have posted do suffer but they're not as silly and immature like you are. They've actually brought up some good points. We're all people lil' chap and we all make mistakes and have tantrums in times of need, desperation, frustration and resentment of other people's freedom in life.

You're not offering anything to this forum in terms of evidential details neither anything at all apart from stupid comments that are not even funny or entertaining. You sound empty in life, illogical, young and disgruntled stuck in the head.

There's no point posting crap being a rude coward without explaining yourself, at least before things were entertaining and bits of stuff here and there related to his posts and authored works, and points brought up with real people had some merit in relevance.

Are you trying to sue the guy and debunk him whilst offering diddly shit except moronic whimpering deluded utter crap and at the same time telling people to up psychiatric medication?

Most people would think you have about three psychological things going on in further inspection herein this thread. Thus, you've proven that you can't really do anything about illusive aspects of naked freedom of which you've lost to even though you're trying to put up guards for yourself using evidential claims that an entity with mental issues and significant amount of emotional bother would come up with on display.

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I will continue to follow Wilde's posts as he has the odd thing to say that helps in life, other stuff I don't get it doesn't matter for someone like me. I will buy his stuff as I always have, don't really care for events. I won't come back here to read drivel posts with no credible evidence considering some of the posts before at least were about his work and related stuff like Aya and healing in the light of his success as a new age author.

Stuart and others do write stuff that's informative, expressive, emotionally confounded, spiritually personally visual - collectively and individually. However, me personally I don't agree with all of it. Particular subjects are monotonous though they're all contributing to media. I don't understand experientially the ghouls & theological stuff, but that doesn't matter too much to me even though it's worth the read. Alternative media won't go away even though they'll protest about it speaking in terms of Internet freedoms being taken away due to legislation and transient architecture in situ.
Think of the Internet and all this media like a building that's been designed and commissioned by the powers that be who run the institution programmes, engineer and manufacture industry of such. The architecture is designed to stand predictive weather and statistical catastrophe. Other than that, they can keep rebuilding as they please. Using the words of researcher good ole Davo I. "problem-reaction-solution" does appear valid pertaining to alternative and mainstream mediums of debate and all of the stories evolving out of the way the Internet new media will be in our world for the rest of our lives.
Some of the stuff written about jews and some communities I find a bit stupid. I am not jewish yet I do know people, and I understand that these sites are not anti anyone in particular. There's very good alternative info in these sites and they have a good amount of exposure, they will continue to do so regardless of conspiracy. There is valid content you can get from Anonymous sites; even though bringing down sites is '?'.. and debatably it's 50% farce in some respects - transgressive politics involved, as always in life - as there's in-reality no ethical criminal computer conduct. Many of the young and middle-aged folk that are in the pop culture party of it all are not computer science theorists academically as they didn't build the architecture therefore understand it's platforms entirety technologically as an integrated evolving future.
With some sites presentation, like Wilde, there's just a tad of emotional reactivity coming out of these people that seems a bit silly. There's good and bad everywhere along with your own stuff. Loads of jewish people work very hard, like Muslims and many families of different types value family regardless of who you love or marry or preference etc. A lot of jewish people are very very nice. There's prejudice and racism everywhere though I believe in a better world, no matter what now. Yes, Israel and the middle east has been a mess and got problems but I believe in a better future globally and that we're in with a good chance regardless of power restructures/NWO. Stuart says stuff about Obama that I understand although in some facets disagree with. Israel are not the be all powerful nation given the rise of other powers like China/Islamic countries.
In these modern times we're collectively sorting out the racism and bigotry that applies to us all, and that including of Israel, M-E and our own homes. I will not discuss, perhaps someone else can/surf another site, conspiracy politics (by design/manipulation etc even though you can read about it) though I will say that Obama has been a fantastic president in IMO given the climate and he doesn't behead people (sorry to throw that in there). I don't care that he is muslim or whatever... Doesn't bother me at all. I want a world that inspires me and things are changing and there's a lot of teething problems.

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I'd like to also say to New York - f**king amazing city - and United States, given the storm of late, that hearts are with you and that we always send our help, money and everything as permanent partnership and forever friends.

I want Obama to win (sorry if you disagree) and we're going through this altogether now.

To the SW wanna-de-bunkers:

Well I'm definitely not Stuart or Khris. I'm just a dude who has been with the Hare Krishna people and who's life and health has been vastly improved on many levels after applying some of the stuff taught by Stuart and Khris.

I would suggest you take Aya yourself so you can see the hells that you exist in which are created by your own hate and anger...it might help you learn to love and help you heal...and become happy...

Hare Krishna, That explains it.

Hay What a Joke Hairy Krishna.


ha ha ha

Sucker born every minute, now I know whey you like Wilde.

Yelp Hairy Sucker Krishna.

Don't worry happy. :)

You got some real mental problems.

This forum is about debunk Wilde. If you want to go kiss his ass go do it on his site.

sucker begone

Here is Stuart not charging again. Ha what a joke. READ if you can:)



There’s Good Hope Now + Amsterdam Mates Rates

Dear A-list, I’ve seen 500 visions in the last few weeks. They are very clear and bright. Very little ghoul interference. It’s mostly Gaia fighting back, and the Word Sword, I wrote an article about it on the stuartwilde.com site.

I can see the celestial sun in the distance, the ghouls are dying, I hope you have begun to feel lighter and that any impediments are falling away. It’s going to get even brighter as time passes.

Amsterdam (Mates Rates for A-List People)

I’ve got 36 reduced Mates Rates tickets (Euro 150.00) that were for repeaters that have not as yet been picked up. They are for Dec 8th and Dec 16th, so I’m offering those to the A-list people, as I’d prefer you guys to be there as it will be a higher energy that way. Click Events and then Ams, then scroll down for the registration box, click Mates Rates. Or use the links below to register and pay.

And I forgot to put the Group rate, it’s Euro 440 for four people so, Euro 110 each. It’s on the Events page now. Come if you can, it will be a bright new start for you. Higher than before.

Sincerely,
Stuart Wilde

Hare Krishna is a Cult no wonder you a Wilde sucker.


Read more about the Hare Krishna cult


STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS


Ramakrishna Paramahamsa

As I sat in the train this morning looking for the few remaining swans that float in pairs in the wetlands just off the Hudson River, I felt a pang in my heart. Such loyalty and grace! If time is a stern teacher, one of its hardest lessons is that these qualities--so natural in these creatures—are one of mankind’s rarest and most transient possessions. Too many people we believe are worthy of our deepest regard abuse our trust and often in ways that can only disgust and disappoint. Among the worst of these are people in high leadership positions who base their claims of authority on the spotless reputation of their predecessors. Unfortunately for these charlatans (in politics, religions, etc.), when they fall, their so-called authoritative claims collapse like a deck of cards. What their followers once took for a swan is in fact more akin to a vulture. When one hears of these betrayals of faith, it is consoling to remember the few genuine paramahamsas who emerge from the mists of time more gracious and loyal than the swans after which they are named. At moments like this, their memory is balm to the wounded soul who might imagine himself as one of the swans’ offspring that awkwardly paddle along in the wake of their majestic parents.

Great souls, moreover, are as likely to appear as leaders in science and the arts as they do in religion or philosophy. Gifted with the legendary discriminatory powers of the paramahamsas (“great swans”) of Hindu legend, these men and women of genius instinctively seek out the essential and categorically reject false or interpolated “facts” in any field of endeavor. This quality is not simply a product of innate intelligence, but is carefully honed using an educational model based on the scientific method of inquiry. Although the phenomena studied can vary widely, the procedure is the same: data needs to be collected carefully using observation and experimentation, and conclusions can be reached only after testing one’s hypothesis under a rigid control model. Terminology must also be clear and the methodology used must be clear enough to be reproduced by one’s peers. In the end, the conclusion must be a logical consequence of the hypothesis. Poets and artists use a similar method in that they must closely observe phenomena and proceed with their interpretation with as much craft as imagination. One of the best examples of this marriage of skill and artistic expression is the aptly-named Sundarakanda of the Valmiki’s Ramayana.

In religion, the stakes are much higher and for good reason: spirituality is a quality shared by humanity in general and the yearning for transcendence is universal. Our conscience is an innate quality born of our unique cerebral capabilities, the byproduct of which is our capability to see ourselves objectively. For some, this leads to the impression that we are embodied spirits. Those of us who share this belief that we are souls sent here on a mission by our Creator find our consciences guided by His presence, be it the Paramatma or the Holy Spirit. A complement to this understand is the general notion of all monotheistic religions that since God created us, it is illogical and profoundly barbaric to create an image of Him and worship it as the Deity. These shared agreements notwithstanding, the notion that the Hindu religion is peopled by idol worshippers of every description dominated Western views of the subcontinent until the late 19th century. If not for the courageous efforts of the great Bengali Hindu reformers, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and his disciple, Swami Vivekananda, this view might very well have remained unchallenged to this day.

As a student of religion who spent her teenage years and most of her young adulthood as a disciple of the Gaudiya Vaishnava guru, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, it never fails to amaze me how he reviled the fellow Indian mystics who not only introduced Hinduism to the West. Moreover, if not for their combined efforts, the receptivity of his ideas to these foreigners would have been virtually nil. In other words, my guru stood on the shoulders of the giants of modern Hinduism and had the temerity to declare that he and the cult peopled by his mostly-Western followers superseded all of them. If not for the obfuscation and outright lies that the ISKCON/Hare Krishna movement has perpetrated on a sizable portion of the Hindu public in India and abroad, I would never have spent so much time expounding on how Bhaktivedanta Swami dismissed the legacy of such great Indian patriots as Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda, and Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati. However, the truth must be told and I hope that my words reach their intended audience.
Swami Vivekananda
To begin this section of my essay, there is no better introduction than the great speech Swami Vivekananda gave as a delegate to the 1893 Parliament of the World’s religions in Chicago, beginning with the famous “Brothers and Sisters of America”: [link to www.youtube.com] . This electrifying performance, while it obviously thrilled the audience, must have reached the heavens, where I hope it was received with great satisfaction by Vivekenanda’s guru, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa (who attained mahasamadhi in 1886). What praise can be sufficient for such a guru and disciple? Vivekenanda’s bold assertion of interfaith communality had a solid comparative basis inasmuch as he was a profoundly learned man—truly a prodigy—whose accomplishments included, in addition to a deep knowledge of Sanskrit scripture, a wide-ranging study of Western philosophers from David Hume to Charles Darwin. That is, he was a student of Western skepticism and proceeded as a disciple of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa armed with a thorough understanding of philosophy both from religious and agnostic viewpoints. His advancement of the term that “all religions are pathways to God” was therefore not simply a matter of blind faith, but also an understanding based on study, observation, and the development of a terminology based on a widely-understood knowledge base. In other words, to the extent possible, Vivekenanda’s understanding of comparative religion had a scientific basis. Nevertheless, Vivekananda, was, as the philosopher William James called him, “the paragon of Vedantists.” His appreciation of other faiths never led him to waver in his own staunch Hinduism.

How appalling, therefore, to learn that the Hare Krishna guru, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, who, as I have stated, could never have attained an iota of his preaching success in America and abroad but for the great Indian pioneers who cleared the path before him, openly insulted them. For example, he dismissed the Ramakrishna Mission as “simply bogus propaganda” and its founder, Swami Vivekenanda, as a “rascal, claiming that he had “ruined the Vedic culture.” He was so incensed at the thought that his godbrother, Bon Maharaj, had been influenced by Vivekenanda that he claimed that their guru, Srila Bhaktisiddanta Maharaja, called Bon Maharaj a “black gorilla.” This fear of competition from even his own godbrothers led Bhaktivedanta Swami to issue a letter (dated 3 September, 1975) forbidding his disciples from having any dealings with any of them. Similarly, he dismissed the Arya Samaj founded by Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati, claiming in 1971 that “the Arya Samaj movement started in India but it is now dead and gone” and that “the atheistic Arya Samaj does not believe in the Bhagavad Gita.” The latter assertion is utter nonsense: of the 21 Shastras accepted by the Arya Samaj, the Mahabharata is one of them. As for the statement that this world-wide movement with 10 million followers was in 1971 “dead and gone,” all I can say that some comments are too ridiculous to deserve any kind of serious response.

Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati
It is fitting to conclude this essay by praising a few of Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati’s beliefs that are exemplary regardless of one’ s religion or nationality. The first is the preference he gave to “Nyaya,” or logic in one’s life, be it interpretation of scripture or life in general. The second is his admonition that we should think for ourselves and understand that in the search for knowledge, trial and error is inevitable. He was a reformer in the best sense of the term. His unrelenting push for Swadeshi in India had a major role in the successful fight for independence and the freedom fighters of the Arya Samaj gave their lives to the struggle in disproportionately large numbers. In comparison, the members of the ISKCON/Hare Krishna temples spend most of their donated income building ornate temples filled with idols that they dress in a manner reminiscent of the most garishly-costumed Bollywood stars imaginable. Nearby are lotus-shaped asanas for their gurus, many of which are better suited for the circus. Indeed, the entire operation of the ISKCON empire rests upon a shaky foundation of a multitude of scams meant to hoodwink donors and others of their money (including illegal land-selling scams in India), guru and idol worship, and blind adherence to their ill-informed, pseudo-Hindu doctrines. Disillusioning their members privately and chastising them publicly would be far more effective than sending these cultists donations that they cannot be trusted to use for philanthropic purposes.






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Labels: Arya Samaj, cults, Hare Krishna, Hinduism, ISKCON, Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda
Monday, June 04, 2012
A FOOL'S PARADISE
If a fool is born every minute, it is just as tragic that their foolishness survives their childhoods. Gullible people are emotionally needy, usually in response to abuse and neglect in the early years. Betrayed and lonely, they seek those who value their services and reward their loyalty. Cults, gangs, and other sociopathic groups commonly take advantage of these wounded personalities. Whether they use the guises of enlightenment or rebellion against authority to dupe their followers, they are doubly criminal: they use lost souls to commit crimes and rob them of their souls in the process.

As I write in my newly-updated website ( [link to mysite.verizon.net] another development in this soul-destruction business has firmly taken root in the practices of the ISKCON or Hare Krishna cult. No longer characterized by ex-hippies and similar types in America and Europe, today the supporters of this proto-Hindu group are primarily Indian in origin. Respect for tradition and generosity characterize this large, educated, and prosperous group. However, they have been as just duped as the earlier followers who joined ISKCON in the decades after its founder-acharya, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, took his ideas to New York City in 1966. Unknown to the sincere Indians who, under the mistaken impression that these ISKCON temples are genuinely Hindu, these temples are edifices built on repugnant and anti-intellectual principles. My new essay, “ISKCON and Pederasty, Part Two” will prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that what I speak is the truth.
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Labels: child abuse, cults, Hare Krishna, Hinduism, ISKCON, PHILOSOPHY
Sunday, March 18, 2012
THE GITA AND RUSSIA: ANOTHER ISKCON PUBLIC RELATIONS SCAM
The Indian and Russian people have been the victims of a public relations scam orchestrated by a sect masquerading as Hindus. Known as ISKCON (International Society for Krishna Consciousness) and for their street chanting and opulent temples both in India and in the West, this sect/cult is controlled by swamis who see nothing wrong with meddling in Indian politics as a means to legitimize their operations. Their recent alliance with the VHP (Vishnu Hindu Parishad, a fundamentalist Indian movement) regarding the alleged “banning” of the Bhagavad Gita in Russia illustrates this point. This tempest-in-a-teapot is nothing more than a transparent ploy on the part of ISKCON to abuse Hindu religious sentiment and thereby force the authorities in Moscow and Tomsk to agree to their temple and community building demands.

• Far from banning the Gita: in Tomsk, Russia, the court order filed on 30 June, 2011, only concerned part of the translation by ISKCON’s founder, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami. Although this action was supposedly taken at the behest of the local Russian Orthodox Church, the real factor is believed to be a ban the same year of an ISKCON community in that region and also the matter of governmental opposition to erection of a large temple in Moscow. Why did a small part of a translation of a Hindu scripture catch the attention of the authorities in Tomsk at this particular juncture of events? And why did ISKCON try its best to use this minor issue to turn Indian legislators against Russia, one of its most steadfast allies? Instead of encouraging all parties to consider the evidence like rational human beings, the ISKCON leaders exploited the sentiments of Hindus in a ploy to turn them into an angry, seething mob.

• A letter dated 1 November 2011 written by Gopal Krishna Goswami (ISKCON “governing body commissioner” for much of Russia and India) and addressed to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s principal secretary and a copy of which was sent to Sonia Gandhi and External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna, repeated the court’s assessment by a panel of experts that “Krishna is evil and not compatible with Christian values.” Why this claim was made and what passages in the Gita might have instigated this assessment are never referred to; indeed, the ISKCON public relations machine took this claim and used it to inflame anti-Russian sentiment by Hindus over the world by treating this court order as a wholesale war on Hinduism by the Russian government.

• Facts: The Bhagavad Gita is a philosophical treatise composed between 200 BC and 200 CE; it consists of 700 verses in eighteen chapters and concerns the conversation between the warrior Arjuna and his charioteer, Lord Krishna (the incarnation of the Hindu god Vishnu). It is itself a part of the great Indian epic poem, the Mahabharata. Although many scholars regard it as an allegory, the ISKCON movement takes it literally and places it as occurring approximately 5000 years ago. The translation by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami includes his commentaries after each verse. It is some of these commentaries that incited the court order last year in Tomsk, Russia.

Understanding the situation of Arjuna in the Gita is essential to understanding why the panel of experts cited by the court in Tomsk claimed that “Krishna is evil and not compatible with Christian values.” The action begins with Arjuna’s inaction, for, just as the great battle of Kurukshetra was about to begin, he had his chariot parked between the two parties, one of which consisted of his own tribe, the Pandavas, and the other of his 100 cousins, the Kauravas. In other words, this was a giant fratricidal war. Arjuna was simply overwhelmed with grief at the thought of slaying so many of his relatives and at this juncture Krishna advises him for much of the poem on his duties as a member of the kshatriya, or warrior caste. Among the most famous and, for our purposes, most relevant passages in the Gita occur in Chapter Two and are quoted below using the translation in question and a brief excerpt of the commentary on each verse by A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami:

• Chapter Two, Verse 26: “If, however, you think that the soul is perpetually born and always dies, still you still have no reason to lament, O mighty-armed.”

Commentary: “No one laments the loss of a certain bulk of chemicals and stops discharging his prescribed duties.”

• Chapter Two, Verse 27: “For one who has taken his birth, death is certain; and for one who is dead, birth is certain. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament.”

Commentary: “Why should be afraid of or aggrieved at the death of his relatives since he was discharging his proper duty?”

The problem with these verses and their commentary from a Western point of view should be obvious: what philosophy Krishna is expounding here is based on reincarnation and the caste system. Although few would deny that the Indian caste system is a social abomination that has used and still uses the idea of birthright to elevate others while subjugating and degrading vast numbers of its people, the commentary goes further by treating the verses as examples of philosophical nihilism.

Today, reading these commentaries, I am reminded of Stalin’s famous observation that “a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.” Indeed, the number of enemy combatants Arjuna reportedly killed during only day 14 of the 18-day war was 109,350. Of course, this is all fantasy out of an epic poem, but the point is clear if you are a follower of ISKCON and believe it to be literally true: mass slaughter is a great glory as long as you are doing your “proper duty.”

If that point of view is not evil, what is? How can grief at the loss of life during war be a sign of weakness and, worse, how can a human body be considered “a certain bulk of chemicals?” It seems that the Indian legislators who were whipped into a frenzy at the thought of a far-flung Russian community banning only one of the many translations of the Bhagavad Gita should have sat down and actually read the passages in question. However, like so many people who claim pride in their religion’s scriptures, few apparently took the time to actually read what they are defending.

Finally, I would like to close with a quotation from the 1 November, 2011 letter I referred to earlier in this essay: "We fear this unprecedented attack will trigger rampant bigotry and would unwittingly make it difficult for the Indian government to be seen fostering security, defence, political and economic ties with an intolerant and oppressive society."

Gopal Krishna Goswami need not fear any such reactions from either the Indian or Russian peoples regarding his guru’s commentaries on the Bhagavad Gita. Rather, what he and ISKCON should fear is that all this attention will lead many of those involved or appealed to in this case to actually read the passages in question and see for themselves what irrational, inhumane, and bigoted dogma they truly are. Banning is hardly needed; all the Russians need to do is insert a warning to each reader at the beginning of each book and be done with the whole business.

For more about ISKCON as an intolerant cult, please see the entries in this blog entitled, “Islamic Tribalism, Converts,and Terror: the Case of Russia," "The ISKCON Vedic Cultural Center Hoax," and also my website,
[link to mysite.verizon.net]
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Labels: Bhagavad Gita, Gopal Krishna Goswami, Governing Body Commissioner, Hare Krishna, Hinduism, HUMAN DIGNITY, PHILOSOPHY, Russia to ban Gita
Wednesday, January 11, 2012
"A SEQUIN FOR MR. AL-ZAHRANI," A VERY SHORT STORY.
Mr. Al-Zahrani (as his American nurses insisted on calling him) fumed yet again as the light streaked across the blue of his closed eyelids. Sometimes it appeared to be a tiny comet and at other times, it elongated into a minute, dim torch. “What, am I a superstitious fool or a boy frightened of his own shadow?” he thought. “Worse, why did those murmuring idiots called my family say what I saw is a blessing? What is really a blessing is that since I can’t speak now or do anything except move my eyelids, their inane chatter has finally stopped.” His only regret now was that it had never occurred to him to ask his oncologist whether hallucinations were byproducts of advanced pancreatic cancer.

Just last month he was back in his own country, relaxing with his five sons as they smoked and drank their thick coffee for what seemed to be hours. Looking at the lot of them, he remembered his own youth as one of two boys in a family that included his four sisters. He thought that when he married, he would allow his wife one daughter to be a companion to her and insist that the others be males. Fate and a little medical intervention made it so, but the girl turned out to be just like her brothers, even worse. Sanaa was a bitch, even without the Oxford and Ivy League graduate degrees of her investment-crazed brothers. She married a man in the mold of her brothers, but with ten times the ambition and well-schooled in the subterfuge that had made her father’s financial dealings so effective. “My disciple, my son-in-law,” Fahim mused rather grimly. Then he nodded off again and, feeling the opiate dripping in his veins to be somewhat inadequate, focused on the light as an experiment befitting a man of science in full possession of his reasoning faculties.

“Stop,” he said, and it stopped. Then it hovered above his vision like a contact lens that takes just a few seconds to fully adjust. It was as if he were seeing through a transparent sequin—the colors everywhere seemed almost too bright. He could feel the sun bouncing off what, incredibly, seemed pink sandstone walls and the fuchsia, lemon yellow, and purple of the women’s clothing, which also seemed spangled with tiny mirrors like so many stars. Everyone seemed to be smiling, ignorant, Fahim thought, of the immodest dress of the women, which in his country was forbidden. Then he became conscious that he was not alone.

“What did you promise and what was your gift?” someone or something was asking him, and for a moment, it seemed like a riddle and then the meaning became instantly clear. He felt as if he were surrounded by people who for once were genuinely interested in his well-being. “Fahim," someone was telling him, “answer Shubha, don’t be afraid,” and he again found himself under the loving gaze of she who had died giving birth to his only brother. He then turned to address Shubha and recognized her immediately.

“If you can’t answer right now, don’t worry, you will soon learn what they were and if you truly repent, all will be forgiven," she said in a voice that mingled concern and a touch of regret. Mustering his courage, Fahim asked her what had been her own mission. In response, she quietly embraced him. Suddenly, he found himself back at his hospital room, where the only sound was that of the nurses walking slowly about as they plucked all the wires that had bound him to this world, unaware that he was floating above them, an arc of translucent flame, holding hands with and beaming at his new friend. “In answer to your question,” she was saying, “my gift was to discover the cure for your disease and my promise was to work to overcome each and every obstacle to make it happen. Unfortunately, I was never given the chance.”

Then together they appeared in the night sky above a small concrete house in the city of pink sandstone so lately visited and saw a thin, almost waifish girl who could not have been above seventeen or eighteen years old carefully, and as not to be seen by anybody else, gather a few flowers and pat them to the heaped top of a newly-dug, tiny grave next to three others that had since sunken to the level of the ground.
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Labels: female infanticide, selective abortion, women in science
Tuesday, January 03, 2012
HARE KRISHNA MATING RITUAL REVEALED
It has often been observed that the stricter the religious sect, the more obsessed it is about sexuality. This is most certainly the case with the Hare Krishna devotees. Of the four “regulative principles” whose practice is required of all aspiring and initiated ISKCON followers, the most onerous is the one banning any sexual activity not specifically intended for procreation. Furthermore, according to the direct instructions of the founder of ISKCON, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami (“Srila Prabhupada”), privacy was out of the question as to when the conception might take place: the married couple intending to “try for a child” would have to appear before the congregation in the temple in the morning and announce that they would be doing so that night. If that were not indignity enough, both partners were required to spend the day chanting 64 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra on their japa beads, which means that they would be rapidly mumbling it for a total of 6,912 times. In practice, this is a sort of self-brain washing ritual designed to rid the mind of any anticipation for the act to follow, which, in any case, was supposed to be limited to one fast act during which the couple was supposed to be chanting Hare Krishna anyway. Artificial insemination would have been far more humane.

The evident disgust about sexuality that already permeated a sect that regarded celibacy as the desired state of a true devotee and marriage as a concession to accommodate lust—romantic feelings between spouses was actively discouraged—made the production of new devotees-to-be little more than a necessary evil. By the 1970’s, Srila Prabhupada further stipulated that a “first-class” householder should in fact not live with his wife at all and, instead, should live in the temple as celibates in separate ashrams with the unmarried men and women, respectively. The only time they could have a physical contact was when, if they desired a child, they would go once a month (under the conditions already described) and for a night borrow the apartment of one of the rare couples who were so fallen as to live together. They would then do their business as quickly and dispassionately as possible before showering and returning to their respective ashrams.

The process soon became the butt of jokes and whispers among many devotees because of the sheer ludicrousness of the situation: since you were supposed to think only of Krishna during the brief copulation, couples were sometimes overheard frantically chanting the mantra during the minute or so that the man was supposed to muster an erection to shove into a woman who might as well have been in a coma. If pregnancy did occur as a result of this indignity, the woman was expected to return to the brahmacharini ashram and spend her term sleeping on a sleeping bag on the floor like everybody else, eating the same food (except for an increased milk allowance), and give birth in a municipal hospital with the bills paid by Medicaid or another medical welfare program.
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Labels: cults, Hare Krishna, HUMAN DIGNITY, ISKCON
Thursday, October 06, 2011
THE ISKCON "VEDIC CULTURAL CENTER" HOAX
It is no secret that the Indian Cultural Society operating here in the U.S. and the venerable Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan in India are Hindu in orientation, despite their purported mission to showcase and preserve Indian culture. The approximately 180 million Indian Muslims might have an issue with this and justifiably so. However, since Hinduism is the indigenous religion of the Indian sub-continent, the organizations representing Indian culture have wisely focused on the arts and community values, particularly in their outreach to the NRI (Non-Resident Indian) population. There is simply no comparable Indian Muslim counterpart to these types of organizations either in India or abroad and that fact brings me to the topic of this posting.

Here in New York City we have recently concluded our tenth commemoration of the terrorist attacks on September 11th. While at the time it was unavoidable given the circumstances, the mosques and religious schools attended by Muslims living in this country have been the subjects of intense scrutiny since then. No matter what the reason, alienating an immigrant group distinguished by its widely-admired work ethic and strong family values does not come without a price.

How foolish, then, is the ISKCON cult’s brazen co-opting of the “Indian Cultural Society” and "Vedic Cultural Society" labels to hoodwink Indians (both resident and non-resident) into spending their hard-earned cash to fund the spread of a belief system that most would find both repugnant and illogical. So, instead of the temple in question bearing the name of the resident deities (e.g.,“Sri Sri Radha Govinda Mandir”), you have the “ISKCON Hawaii Cultural Center,” or in Pune, India, the “New Vedic Cultural Center.” Unbelievably, in Almaty, Kazakhstan, ISKCON has established an “Indian Cultural Center” despite the fact the NRI population in the entire country is less than 1,500! How can it make any sense to try to convince the people of Kazakhstan that they need to emulate Indian cultural values?

The practice of changing the name of a controversial group to blend in with reputable organizations is a guerrilla warfare tactic that is commonly referred to as “hiding in plain sight.” It is a simple ruse that, among other things, helps the group in question to evade detection and evaluation by governmental agencies and the general public. In education, matters are as bad or worse. For example, ISKCON runs a “Vedic Cultural Center” in Sammamich, Washington, that contains a "planetarium" which is nothing more than a view of the universe from a profoundly anti-science Vaishnava perspective. Schools run by the Hare Krishna group world-wide share this fault of educating students to pass the government-administered tests while teaching them a view of the universe which adheres to a literal Vedic model which is primitive and, frankly, ridiculous. This view includes such howlers such as the belief that “Vedic” astronomy teaches us that the Earth is a disk supported by four elephants in space and that the moon is an inhabited “heavenly” planet.

Moreover, despite having spread these beliefs in the West, the founder of ISKCON, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, never regarded his organization as a form of Hinduism. I can tell you that this is true from my experience in the 13 years I spent in the Hare Krishna movement. In fact, the swami never observed the typical Hindu festivals of Holi or Deepavali in our temples and viewed the devotion many Hindus feel for Shiva, Ganesh, and Durga as mere demigod worship. I also know that he would have also regarded the re-naming of temples to blend into the Indian Cultural Center model with indignant anger and disbelief. Better stop all of this subversive business and admit that using all of this imitation and flattery to pick the pockets of sincere Indians yearning for a taste of the mother country is a cruel joke.

Ahhh, FIghting American.

Your post is copied from:

[link to www.harekrishnacultexposed.blogspot.com.au]

I don't have any opinion regarding 'accepted religions' of the world.

What's wrong with Hare Krishna given Hinduism?

? What ? It's not really a debunk relevant. Anyway.

I am agnostic. I guess I like reading and listening to stuff. You could say nothing if you're atheist or call me satanist if you're abrahamic fundamentalist or whatever... eeekkk? I love the devil :-)

Re mental illness. Yes, you're right. It's a bit like possession though I wouldn't believe too much what a deranged spiritualist new ager would say to kinda freak out & entrap with dogma bs. Cool folk wouldn't do that. You can go into haunted places and you won't bring anything home compared to shit on the net and in real everyday life hahah. I've struggled with mental illness since a teenager. I've lost many years and people due to it though I find myself in more loving circumstances now and the health support services today are far more aware, advanced and better. I am not taking mood stabilisers or antipsychotics right now as I've been pretty good this year with nothing, though struggle with things but I am grateful compared to everything else in the world - no big deal. I do get visions and serious paranoia and stuff but i've learned to handle things with experience and relax rather than control it all. Psychiatry does work. I'm not a conspiracy believer in medicine like many people (which is fine), politics and corruption everywhere and a massive system. Look at this forum? Imagine if we were in parliament, intel and at the helm of multinationals running the place? Fkn joke mate :-)


You said this:

"Hit's Official Stuart Wilde and his Butt Butty Khris are now posting here. Be-warned we have done a trace on them via the next and they are the ones posting this Garbage!

No facts, Just Bullshit."



Not being rude, but are you sure that you don't have a mental problem?

I do agree that some msg boards are badly logged and not secure so one can get IP and then deep web shah shah shah though probably given the scrutiny and openness herein it should be members only for safety though it is moderated to some extent. GLP do run a great site.

You'd know this though, well given what you've said if you're not mentally ill and "No facts" Fighting American.


If you can gauge the build of this forum and have checked out GLP very well from your end, then if your game, post up the data with source using secure comp and present your evidence.


If not, probably stick to straight talk and not be overtly expressive telling people they're "f***ing stupid"


Next time, post secure comp coz from my view you're talking total shit.


Do you know how to use a virtual machine and how to use VPN's?


If you're saying you've traced Stuart and Khris to this forum you'd want to not post like you did.


Nobody needs to use other than straight connection here unless they're doing something they shouldn't be doing under federal law.


Surfing blackhat style, using various torrent/p2p, is illegal too, so you'd wanna know what you're doing, like people in Anonymous that really know what they're doing who don't actually go on twitter.


talk about your process in packet capturing over WAN too and network hopping regarding your claims.


IT, Anon

To Fighting American:

You keep bringing up the money point but that is a very dull point...invalid.

SW said the Las Vegas was 63,000 in expense for the weekend ....the room cost 28K alone then all the rest of the stuff. Pay Pal exs alone were 5k. So the promoters only just scraped through...

SW has been running his site free of charge for about 15 years. There is a webmaster and admin lady (part time), an editor and a graphics man. SW works about 4-6 hours a day as a labor of love and it costs him close to 20K a year...to teach people for free.

So whinging about his royalties is pathetic....

I suggest you get a job to improve your chances in life...hate doesn't earn a living. It just make you vulnerable. It is alleged that Lennon was killed a few days after he and Yoko did a black magic ceremony that involved a blood sacrifice. Hate can bite ya in the bum. Learn to love or wear armored underwear!

Last Edited by Oak on 11/06/2012 09:05 AM

Just a word of warning to some of you that - apologies that this may go off the topic - there are particular psychic services online of which one can pay for prior to appointment (Skype/Telephone). Please do not be overtly concerned about fraud new age businesses as skilled hacking groups, trust me, they're not (due to micro-payments fraud- they can't command the salaries to get skilled folk to work for them & commit crime - some people can) and let me say that other snoopers will go after them and have a go at sites (people are using Facebook more bcoz of this yet that's ok even if they're fraudulent) and a bunch of stuff I won't go into here. I will keep it very very simple regarding new age fraudsters.

Kinda similar and like Facebook, one can't delete a Skype acct. However, that's not the problem. You can use Skype account @ net cafe on ya travels or a fk around machine that you do not care for OS security but do not install or use on an OS for your more serious work where you need it clean & ur apps to run smoothly (doesn't matter whether you're a graphic designer, compiling code, production, presentations, whatever..) - try to avoid Skype with ANYONE you do not know, including religious/employment/other people you're unsure about and psychic readings. Skype can be recorded, so... you will only speak to someone online and confide in people you really know (why would you wish to open up to someone you just met who's recording you?). Find a good psychologist via ur local decent GP who has a proper reputation or psychiatrist with a practice and proper reputation if you're having mental/emotional difficulties, firstly. There's a lot of good people out there in the system via the government (too bad if you disagree). DO NOT confide in somebody who won't open up evidentially to you who has your full identification who does not have a public profile and is reachable (IE. you opening up to a pop star via a letter is not going to be a concern given record label and mgmt. etc). Indie music? Stay away from. Nah, just kidding, your fave musicians are really nice people, they deal with stalkers all the time & all sorts of shit and get paid nothing to put up with crap :-)

Anyway, re: Gmail (given that you're NOT surfing stupidly & keep your system clean - valid social media sites/no weird downloads or tracking graphics/files/apps etc. & net security from ur ISP for Windows/perhaps u use network monitor or Wireshark for ya WPA2/other to use 4 flatmates/family or just ya str8 OSX or perhaps Linux choices) regardless of using minimal security in Windows for example, you will be fine. If you use a great passwrd and very long random secret question (pasted/encrypted stored, changed a bit) and backup email addy/mobile phone - try to decode packets with that? If you're talking in terms or key loggers and link tricks, that's stupidity - use your own clean mobile/machine (regardless of topics like wireless; token middle-attacks .. etc. and that would be local) The time and practice, it's out of most people's depth. You'll be fine. Anonymous ain't gonna have a go at your gmail (because the good lads and girls don't care unless you're wanted for shit) and neither will some new age fraudulent dumb dumb that wouldn't know the difference between Java and XSS.

If you email me on a single VPN it doesn't give you really much security though you may like to compress your data over WLAN at home, perhaps when you're using public or perhaps on your mobile. I won't go into anything else due to this forum topic. There's load of good blogs on IT and you can surf the Anonymous sites too. They're great basic stuff for people that have not done computer stuff that enjoy the political reads.

Please do not get paranoid about hacking. I mean, Garry Mckinnon even mentioned he wasn't a hacker. He's a systems administrator having a snoop around due to his mental interests. I won't go any further, it's not relevant what I think here. A hacker - in my definition - is someone that is not just a Sabu (doesn't have the education and made dumb errors & ego stuff, very intelligent and passionate though - every step they take walking the tight-rope doing anything, hrdwre used, place of entry, exit, location they can fall from a very serious height); street knowledge about breaking, friggin' blah blah freaked modems etc. A complete hacker by definition is someone who is highly skilled/knowledgable in telecommunications engineering, all languages, dffrnt hardware/dffrnt environments/OS' - to put it simply also, someone with the educational background classically in the computer sciences. Not just tracing IP addresses and using shit for kicks being a teen noob brat or sad character that doesn't have a lot going for them in life. That kinda thing :-<

Fighting American, what you've said taking away the stupid stuff is valid. There is politics involved in the so-called free-rights movement and new age. Money & reputation is a factor. There is nasty stuff going on as a business. I'm not going to post about. Period.

Stuart Wilde has a reputation. Being agnostic the healing thing I find to be strange without evidence. I'm not talking about anything related to costs of events (which you may like to go into :-)

The stuff that you mentioned about pictures prior to events and personal details and the whys???? Yeah... Ummmm? You're posting stuff prior to from the A-List it seems. It's ok. Some people have pictures on their twitter accounts and social Facebook and resumes... ? Don't know.

Just off-the-cuff: A person I know did something related to an Internet business scam without discussing the details with someone knowledgable and ended up being ripped off thousands of dollars. Long story short, thankfully, the bank got involved and got the money back. Also, even though me, not being religious or believing in the morality debate under theistic fundamentalist ordinance rather than state/federal legalities, life after death; I do respect and adhere to not only the paranormal but psychic studies - parapsychology. Science is really important and I'm of the attitude that things are far more complex than we'll know and our little world view (apologies if I offend).

Regarding what I started this post about (new age working scams), recently in fact, I know of a rip-off regarding a known psychic based in another country who offered a psychic reading. The reputable psychic is based in another country to the client and decided not to make the appointment with view to ripping off the client a decent amount of money (this is a known psychic that's been on national TV in a few countries - industry accredited). Without going into too much detail -- just to prove to you that there's people on the Internet being mistreated under the guise of 'new age' ethics -- the client asked for some help to get the money back given the services were deliberately ignored. The psychic thought they would be fine to rip off yet another client in another country given 'no refund' applies and legal over the cost. The psychic does have family, found out legitimately in the particular country of current residence. The psychic was threatened, traced geographically and internet account snooped on (the psychic was using private address and thought it's been okay and cool to get away with scamming a few people he thought would be ok victims from abroad given reputation). Within a short amount of time the psychic - being notified and identified - got very scared and fully refunded the money promptly with a bullshit excuse regarding 'illness'.

There's lots of good knowledge out there and products and services, but PLEASE be very careful folk :-)

"ahh... Aliiiissa is a hkr.. Aliiiissa is a hkr... decrypt dog shit.. decrypt dog shit Rikos.."


* kiddin

:-)

Sorry, pattern interrupt. Info about web cams, email services and how to spy on someone? Algorithms & engines that track your every move and defeat crime before it happens? Loads of sites for the folks that are getting used to the fact that 1/10th of real crime is dealt with that the Gov. can actually afford depts on (bit understaffed with all the shit going on sometimes, but anyways). Difficult to play police when we don't police ourselves and yet that is the reactivity of these times we live in, fortunately for learning/unfortunately for a betterment yearning. In fact, forget about it, be super paranoid and use a plaster or something on ur cam (like Wilde) - nah, skippy, sudo ya maccy n' legit clean with the dodgy - just don't use Shabu & Skype.

:-) hahaha

5-10% of the max figure.

just be careful

c ya