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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83918521 Australia 01/24/2024 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Local Masonic Lodge wants me to join but won't I have to start all over in hierarchy.. now I'm at 33 Each degree cost a sum of money each being higher in price. It is why they always get you a good well paying job. 33rd is the most expensive. Each Degree cost you more in your annual Dues. You have to pay your Dues and you will have a Dues book to prove it. Your memory must be excellent. You don't get to read your oaths and lines from a book, they must be memorised and be perfectly stated or you fail. Tradition Lodges meet on the Thursday closest to the full moon. US Freemasonry is not recognised by the Mother Lodges as legitimate Freemasonry. Unless your Lodge is an English constitution Lodge or a French Constitution lodge is is not Official nor officially recognised internationally. Shriners are not Official Freemasons. No Shriner is faithful to their wife. Just a heads up. If you are going to make up stories you want to be believed you have to research them as if you are writing a book on it and make sure all is accurate or you lose intelligent believer straight away. Unintelligent believers can only do so much for you Mas. My theory is you bought a crap site now have to spam it to keep it with content. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83918521 Australia 01/24/2024 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Local Masonic Lodge wants me to join but won't I have to start all over in hierarchy.. now I'm at 33 That is not how you turn a rough ashlar into a perfect cube. Didn't you read Albert Pike's Morals and Dogma? Humble and Silent. Freemasons do not rave about themselves. Go and watch The Art of Freemasonry documentary. A advertorial for Freemasonry in the USA. Freemasons do not go around promoting themselves nor telling everyone of every sundry they do in daily life. |
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'Massimo' (OP) User ID: 86636133 United States 01/24/2024 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Local Masonic Lodge wants me to join but won't I have to start all over in hierarchy.. now I'm at 33 That is not how you turn a rough ashlar into a perfect cube. Didn't you read Albert Pike's Morals and Dogma? Humble and Silent. Freemasons do not rave about themselves. Go and watch The Art of Freemasonry documentary. A advertorial for Freemasonry in the USA. Freemasons do not go around promoting themselves nor telling everyone of every sundry they do in daily life. I'm reading Morals and Dogma right now |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86749567 United States 01/24/2024 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Local Masonic Lodge wants me to join but won't I have to start all over in hierarchy.. now I'm at 33 Each degree cost a sum of money each being higher in price. It is why they always get you a good well paying job. 33rd is the most expensive. Each Degree cost you more in your annual Dues. You have to pay your Dues and you will have a Dues book to prove it. Your memory must be excellent. You don't get to read your oaths and lines from a book, they must be memorised and be perfectly stated or you fail. Tradition Lodges meet on the Thursday closest to the full moon. US Freemasonry is not recognised by the Mother Lodges as legitimate Freemasonry. Unless your Lodge is an English constitution Lodge or a French Constitution lodge is is not Official nor officially recognised internationally. Shriners are not Official Freemasons. No Shriner is faithful to their wife. Just a heads up. If you are going to make up stories you want to be believed you have to research them as if you are writing a book on it and make sure all is accurate or you lose intelligent believer straight away. Unintelligent believers can only do so much for you Mas. My theory is you bought a crap site now have to spam it to keep it with content. When did the US masonry fall out of international favor? How many have you met that KNOW there's a God and got free of matter? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81519341 Australia 01/24/2024 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Local Masonic Lodge wants me to join but won't I have to start all over in hierarchy.. now I'm at 33 Each degree cost a sum of money each being higher in price. It is why they always get you a good well paying job. 33rd is the most expensive. Each Degree cost you more in your annual Dues. You have to pay your Dues and you will have a Dues book to prove it. Your memory must be excellent. You don't get to read your oaths and lines from a book, they must be memorised and be perfectly stated or you fail. Tradition Lodges meet on the Thursday closest to the full moon. US Freemasonry is not recognised by the Mother Lodges as legitimate Freemasonry. Unless your Lodge is an English constitution Lodge or a French Constitution lodge is is not Official nor officially recognised internationally. Shriners are not Official Freemasons. No Shriner is faithful to their wife. Just a heads up. If you are going to make up stories you want to be believed you have to research them as if you are writing a book on it and make sure all is accurate or you lose intelligent believer straight away. Unintelligent believers can only do so much for you Mas. My theory is you bought a crap site now have to spam it to keep it with content. When did the US masonry fall out of international favor? How many have you met that KNOW there's a God and got free of matter? If didn't fall out of favour, it was never legit to start with. It has fabrications and elements the mother lodges do not. Some say US Freemasonry doesn't even practise The Ritual, which is central in Orthodox lodges. By adding more degrees they could extract more money and give rich members more prestige over lower ranked members. The Original Ancient and Honourable Guild of Stone Cutters only had 3 degrees. Accepted, Freemason, and Master Mason. They did Stone work and some had the elements saved from the Mystery schools in them to preserve that knowledge during the Purges. Each year you were expected to give a speech (in the lodge) on the Craft/trade thus showing your expert knowledge of your trade and the confidence to speak in public to others. Remember until 200 years ago all trades were subject to secrecy to stop the lords rulers and Kings from taking over the trade and enslaving every trades person. Today everyone knows how to bake bread correctly, 200 years ago it was a trade secret. That is why the orgional Masons were secretive, so was every trade defending themselves against the establishment by keeping their trade secrets hidden. Now the Freemasons are the Establishment the orgional ones were resisting. My grandfather was head of the Blue Lodges. MY father refused to join being a highly logical individual. He told me any group who can't tell you what they are about until after you join and agree to keep it secret is obviously a scam. When your dad doesn't join the lodge and they want him to, you see the cruel side of the Lodge and Freemasons. They make sure you can't get the good jobs in your town.... until you join. My family suffered because of that. I didn't get it until my grandfather died and all protects were stripped. Vindictive a-holes is who they really are who get pissy if they don't get their way. They are not Honest people. They say they believe in equality when they really only believe in equality for other Freemasons. The Oath of Obligation of a Master Mason agrees to sell out the rest of humanity in favour of their own. |
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Great work bro! User ID: 76785999 New Zealand 01/24/2024 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Local Masonic Lodge wants me to join but won't I have to start all over in hierarchy.. now I'm at 33 I always end up clicking on your threads and then see it’s you because you have the strangest and tardedest thread titles. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86464874 I'm a connoisseur of Tardedest -thanks for the term- and do the same because the local Tards just don't have the same high standards as Massimo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74543598 United States 01/24/2024 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Local Masonic Lodge wants me to join but won't I have to start all over in hierarchy.. now I'm at 33 The king or whatever of my local mason lodge just got sent to Northern State Pen in Rahway New Jersey for a drug charge. His lodge brothers are bikers. The Pagans, I think. They didn't have their colors on when they had the going up the river party. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86749567 United States 01/24/2024 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Local Masonic Lodge wants me to join but won't I have to start all over in hierarchy.. now I'm at 33 Each degree cost a sum of money each being higher in price. It is why they always get you a good well paying job. 33rd is the most expensive. Each Degree cost you more in your annual Dues. You have to pay your Dues and you will have a Dues book to prove it. Your memory must be excellent. You don't get to read your oaths and lines from a book, they must be memorised and be perfectly stated or you fail. Tradition Lodges meet on the Thursday closest to the full moon. US Freemasonry is not recognised by the Mother Lodges as legitimate Freemasonry. Unless your Lodge is an English constitution Lodge or a French Constitution lodge is is not Official nor officially recognised internationally. Shriners are not Official Freemasons. No Shriner is faithful to their wife. Just a heads up. If you are going to make up stories you want to be believed you have to research them as if you are writing a book on it and make sure all is accurate or you lose intelligent believer straight away. Unintelligent believers can only do so much for you Mas. My theory is you bought a crap site now have to spam it to keep it with content. When did the US masonry fall out of international favor? How many have you met that KNOW there's a God and got free of matter? If didn't fall out of favour, it was never legit to start with. It has fabrications and elements the mother lodges do not. Some say US Freemasonry doesn't even practise The Ritual, which is central in Orthodox lodges. By adding more degrees they could extract more money and give rich members more prestige over lower ranked members. The Original Ancient and Honourable Guild of Stone Cutters only had 3 degrees. Accepted, Freemason, and Master Mason. They did Stone work and some had the elements saved from the Mystery schools in them to preserve that knowledge during the Purges. Each year you were expected to give a speech (in the lodge) on the Craft/trade thus showing your expert knowledge of your trade and the confidence to speak in public to others. Remember until 200 years ago all trades were subject to secrecy to stop the lords rulers and Kings from taking over the trade and enslaving every trades person. Today everyone knows how to bake bread correctly, 200 years ago it was a trade secret. That is why the orgional Masons were secretive, so was every trade defending themselves against the establishment by keeping their trade secrets hidden. Now the Freemasons are the Establishment the orgional ones were resisting. My grandfather was head of the Blue Lodges. MY father refused to join being a highly logical individual. He told me any group who can't tell you what they are about until after you join and agree to keep it secret is obviously a scam. When your dad doesn't join the lodge and they want him to, you see the cruel side of the Lodge and Freemasons. They make sure you can't get the good jobs in your town.... until you join. My family suffered because of that. I didn't get it until my grandfather died and all protects were stripped. Vindictive a-holes is who they really are who get pissy if they don't get their way. They are not Honest people. They say they believe in equality when they really only believe in equality for other Freemasons. The Oath of Obligation of a Master Mason agrees to sell out the rest of humanity in favour of their own. What you describe sounds more like what I would expect a messianic system to look like. But I blamed the king for using a foreign banking system, imo that's the unit of measure for our contribution toward the greater good, and banking is the kings primary responsibility. I figured that's why American was formed and what caused it to fall. That old Snyder/Washington/Russell letter comes to mind. You skipped my question of if anyone youe met is actually free. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54300180 United States 01/25/2024 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My Local Masonic Lodge wants me to join but won't I have to start all over in hierarchy.. now I'm at 33 Each degree cost a sum of money each being higher in price. It is why they always get you a good well paying job. 33rd is the most expensive. Each Degree cost you more in your annual Dues. You have to pay your Dues and you will have a Dues book to prove it. Your memory must be excellent. You don't get to read your oaths and lines from a book, they must be memorised and be perfectly stated or you fail. Tradition Lodges meet on the Thursday closest to the full moon. US Freemasonry is not recognised by the Mother Lodges as legitimate Freemasonry. Unless your Lodge is an English constitution Lodge or a French Constitution lodge is is not Official nor officially recognised internationally. Shriners are not Official Freemasons. No Shriner is faithful to their wife. Just a heads up. If you are going to make up stories you want to be believed you have to research them as if you are writing a book on it and make sure all is accurate or you lose intelligent believer straight away. Unintelligent believers can only do so much for you Mas. My theory is you bought a crap site now have to spam it to keep it with content. When did the US masonry fall out of international favor? How many have you met that KNOW there's a God and got free of matter? If didn't fall out of favour, it was never legit to start with. It has fabrications and elements the mother lodges do not. Some say US Freemasonry doesn't even practise The Ritual, which is central in Orthodox lodges. By adding more degrees they could extract more money and give rich members more prestige over lower ranked members. The Original Ancient and Honourable Guild of Stone Cutters only had 3 degrees. Accepted, Freemason, and Master Mason. They did Stone work and some had the elements saved from the Mystery schools in them to preserve that knowledge during the Purges. Each year you were expected to give a speech (in the lodge) on the Craft/trade thus showing your expert knowledge of your trade and the confidence to speak in public to others. Remember until 200 years ago all trades were subject to secrecy to stop the lords rulers and Kings from taking over the trade and enslaving every trades person. Today everyone knows how to bake bread correctly, 200 years ago it was a trade secret. That is why the orgional Masons were secretive, so was every trade defending themselves against the establishment by keeping their trade secrets hidden. Now the Freemasons are the Establishment the orgional ones were resisting. My grandfather was head of the Blue Lodges. MY father refused to join being a highly logical individual. He told me any group who can't tell you what they are about until after you join and agree to keep it secret is obviously a scam. When your dad doesn't join the lodge and they want him to, you see the cruel side of the Lodge and Freemasons. They make sure you can't get the good jobs in your town.... until you join. My family suffered because of that. I didn't get it until my grandfather died and all protects were stripped. Vindictive a-holes is who they really are who get pissy if they don't get their way. They are not Honest people. They say they believe in equality when they really only believe in equality for other Freemasons. The Oath of Obligation of a Master Mason agrees to sell out the rest of humanity in favour of their own. |