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'I've left you a present': Message from husband who 'gassed his children' on Father's Day

 
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Suicide: Brian Philcox is believed to have gassed himself and his two children in his car at a beauty spot


A father found gassed with his two children had been in despair over a bitter divorce battle.

Security guard Brian Philcox, 53, had lost his job and feared he would have to hand over his house to his estranged wife Evelyn, 37.

After picking up his daughter Amy and son Owen for a weekend access visit, he told his wife: 'I've left you a present. I'll make the papers, just you watch.'

He then drove his Land Rover to a country lane and attached a hose to the exhaust pipe, feeding it through the window before leaving the engine running.

In view of his message, it was initially suspected that Mr Philcox had left an explosive device to kill his wife, who had gone to live with her mother after leaving him.

Surrounding houses were evacuated as Army bomb disposal experts checked her mother's house in Runcorn, Cheshire, but found nothing.

The bodies of Mr Philcox, seven-year-old Amy, and three-year-old Owen were discovered on Father's Day huddled in the rear seat of the Land Rover in Tal-y-cafn, North Wales. All three died from carbon monoxide poisoning.


Amy and Owen Philcox
Tragic: Amy, seven, and Owen, three, died huddled up with their father in the back of his Land Rover on a remote country lane in North Wales


Mr Philcox, who was chairman of the Federation of English Karate Organisations, had been due to attend a court hearing this week at which his estranged wife was seeking possession of the family house, which is 100 yards from her mother's home.

The pressure group Fathers 4 Justice confirmed that he had been in touch last week telling of his desperation. He had also told neighbours that the divorce had left him at the end of his tether and would leave him penniless.

He told one friend: 'I've lost my wife, I've lost my kids and I've lost my job. Now I'm going to lose my house. But I'd rather burn it down than see that bitch get it.'


Home of Brian Philcox in Runcorn
Tributes: A policeman stands guard outside Mr Philcox's home in Runcorn today, where friends and well-wishers had laid flowers and cuddly toys


Last night bomb disposal teams exploded a suspect package sent to a family member in Runcorn. It was not thought to be an explosive device but will be examined by experts.

It was on Friday that Mr Philcox, who had regular access to his children, picked them up from their mother and was seen playing football with them in a park.

On Saturday he took them to the beauty spot of Llangollen in North Wales where they visited the miniature railway.

When he failed to return from the scheduled access visit at 7pm that evening their mother alerted the police who launched a hunt for the missing children - as well as calling in the bomb disposal team. The bodies were found on Sunday afternoon.


Scene where Brian Philcox and his children were found

Scene of the tragedy: The country lane in North Wales where he parked his car

Mr Philcox had been a karate instructor for more than 30 years and had won championships as a young man.

His first wife, Jan, died from cancer in 1996. After her diagnosis he set up a fundraising charity and won a community award for his efforts.

He married Evelyn McAuliffe in 2000 and the couple had Amy in 2001 and Owen in 2005.
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Father's day horror: Forensic officers investigate in dense woodland yesterday

Neighbours said Mr Philcox was prone to violent tempers and would beat up his stepson Ryan McAuliffe, 18.

One said: 'His wife would complain bitterly that he was violent and would regularly hit her son. She was desperately unhappy about and in the end she decided to leave him.

'She went back to live with her mother though he did have access to the children, who were absolutely adorable, and we often saw them round at the house.'


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The tragedy happened in the picturesque Conwy Valley


Another neighbour said: 'Mrs Philcox is a stunning looking woman and I know her husband took the separation very hard. He would go round to where she was living and there used to be major arguments.

'He told me he was going to lose everything in the divorce and the stress of it obviously got to him.'

Matt O'Connor, founder of Fathers 4 Justice, said: 'From time to time we get calls from people in an extremely agitated state. He called last week and was in some distress.


Conwy Valley, Snowdonia
Isolated: The Conwy Valley area of Snowdonia in North Wales


'There was some dispute over his house but the kids were the main issue for him and he was worried about losing all custody.'

Detective Chief Inspector Wayne Jones said Mrs Philcox was devastated. 'She is being looked after by family liaison officers who are giving her comfort and support, and she has a good network of family and friends around her, but obviously this is a tragic loss.'
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Happy Fuckin' Fathers Day

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Men SUCK. He was clearly a loser, if his actions don't prove that I don't know what does. At least his shitty worthless retard gene pool is ended.

What we need is a good world war to pare down 50% of the pigs that you men are on the battle filed. It's the only thing you're good at is murder.
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Men SUCK. He was clearly a loser, if his actions don't prove that I don't know what does. At least his shitty worthless retard gene pool is ended.

What we need is a good world war to pare down 50% of the pigs that you men are on the battle filed. It's the only thing you're good at is murder.
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fuck you

bitch


you abortion murdering fuckin' baby killers from hell.


you're not even human.


you are a demon dog from hell.
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Wouldn't happen if the court system didn't DESTROY father's lives during a divorce.

Horrible but a sign of what happens when a man has nothing left to lose.
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Men SUCK. He was clearly a loser, if his actions don't prove that I don't know what does. At least his shitty worthless retard gene pool is ended.

What we need is a good world war to pare down 50% of the pigs that you men are on the battle filed. It's the only thing you're good at is murder.
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Men SUCK. He was clearly a loser, if his actions don't prove that I don't know what does. At least his shitty worthless retard gene pool is ended.

What we need is a good world war to pare down 50% of the pigs that you men are on the battle filed. It's the only thing you're good at is murder.
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Yeah, he clearly was a loser. He lost his job, about to lose his house, and I am sure the ex was a peach to deal with. It just happens this man loved his children THAT much. I would wager he could not fathom the notion of not having custody.

You know who to thank for this?

WOMEN, Attorneys, and a failed court system!

I do not agree with his actions, but it is obvious that he was highly distressed, but for you to put 100% blame on him shows you are nothing more than a heartless BITCH.

Just like most Bitch's in America. You have all the rights, men have NONE when it comes to the children. You go through great lengths to make the man's suffering as high as possible. I would bet the wife wanted custody just for spite, as many women in this situation do.

Yet, one thing stands out in this story.

The kids were HUDDLED with their dad during this. That shows the kids loved him as much as he loved them.

I hope they are in a better place. My heart goes out to them.
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Yes, no doubt, in some ways the man took the only revenge he could, the ultimate revenge, Medea-esque. He had to stoop this low because of the system, which favors women at every turn. This is only the beginning.

The man-hater trolling this forum is only the victim of her own hate.
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Wouldn't happen if the court system didn't DESTROY father's lives during a divorce.

Horrible but a sign of what happens when a man has nothing left to lose.
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NO. It wouldn't happen if parents would realize that it's not ALL about them. This is what happens when parent's are selfish and refuse to do whatever it takes for the sake of the children. On the other hand, these kids were their father's children, and so maybe he did the gene pool a favor. Who knows?
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Wouldn't happen if the court system didn't DESTROY father's lives during a divorce.

Horrible but a sign of what happens when a man has nothing left to lose.
 Quoting: Sinanju 449318


True that.
anything after 'but' is bullshit!

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"NO. It wouldn't happen if parents would realize that it's not ALL about them. This is what happens when parent's are selfish and refuse to do whatever it takes for the sake of the children. On the other hand, these kids were their father's children, and so maybe he did the gene pool a favor. Who knows?"

>>Not all about THEM... disproportionately ALL about the FEMALE. I would wager a year's salary that YOU are female.
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Man..I just hate threads like this....
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Man..I just hate threads like this....
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>>It wouldn't turn nasty if people could discuss things civilly and logically. But if they want to play the 'me woman, me hate man' or 'me man, me hate woman game' then I am down with that.
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Too many times I've witnessed the man get the raw deal in court...and even moreso then that, the kids being thrown in the middle of the divorce with "Your daddy's an awful man because..." then he says "Well your mother is a bitch because..." and these poor children are screwed up for life because they are too young to even comprehend what's going on.

Such a tragedy this is, because 3 lives are gone...and for what purpose...to hurt the mother of these children.

Who's fault is it? Lawyers, courts, parents, etc. It doesn't matter now, does it?
anything after 'but' is bullshit!

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Man..I just hate threads like this....



>>It wouldn't turn nasty if people could discuss things civilly and logically. But if they want to play the 'me woman, me hate man' or 'me man, me hate woman game' then I am down with that.
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In my opinion, this is tragic and disrespects the kids..but it will continue regardless of what I think. "Pushing someone to the brink" is no excuse for either side, regardless of biased courts (which they are). In the end people make their own choices..
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"It doesn't matter now, does it?"

>>It wouldn't if it happened in a vacuum... but this is a systemic problem and all too common for my tastes.
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"In my opinion, this is tragic and disrespects the kids..but it will continue regardless of what I think. "Pushing someone to the brink" is no excuse for either side, regardless of biased courts (which they are). In the end people make their own choices.."

>>I am not excusing it.. just pointing out the reason.
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plain spiteful to kill the kids.
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"It doesn't matter now, does it?"

>>It wouldn't if it happened in a vacuum... but this is a systemic problem and all too common for my tastes.
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Agreed. But it won't get any better. Mankind will implode and self-destruct to borderline extinction before we stop hearing of stories like this.
It happens all over the world, different reasons to commit the same act of autrocity against children.
anything after 'but' is bullshit!

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my heart goes out to the mommy. :(

sleep tight angels.
hf
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"In my opinion, this is tragic and disrespects the kids..but it will continue regardless of what I think. "Pushing someone to the brink" is no excuse for either side, regardless of biased courts (which they are). In the end people make their own choices.."

>>I know... scary stuff.
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Men SUCK. He was clearly a loser, if his actions don't prove that I don't know what does. At least his shitty worthless retard gene pool is ended.

What we need is a good world war to pare down 50% of the pigs that you men are on the battle filed. It's the only thing you're good at is murder.


Yeah, he clearly was a loser. He lost his job, about to lose his house, and I am sure the ex was a peach to deal with. It just happens this man loved his children THAT much. I would wager he could not fathom the notion of not having custody.

You know who to thank for this?

WOMEN, Attorneys, and a failed court system!

I do not agree with his actions, but it is obvious that he was highly distressed, but for you to put 100% blame on him shows you are nothing more than a heartless BITCH.

Just like most Bitch's in America. You have all the rights, men have NONE when it comes to the children. You go through great lengths to make the man's suffering as high as possible. I would bet the wife wanted custody just for spite, as many women in this situation do.

Yet, one thing stands out in this story.

The kids were HUDDLED with their dad during this. That shows the kids loved him as much as he loved them.

I hope they are in a better place. My heart goes out to them.
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Or they were scared shitless!
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We don't know why the parents divorced in the first place. Maybe he was violent - we don't know. But if he was he just proved his wife was right to split. He didn't love his children! They were his chattels. How else could a man look into the eyes of those little ones who trusted him implicitly and take their innocent lives just to spite his (ex) wife?

Some men grow bigger but they never grow up.
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"NO. It wouldn't happen if parents would realize that it's not ALL about them. This is what happens when parent's are selfish and refuse to do whatever it takes for the sake of the children. On the other hand, these kids were their father's children, and so maybe he did the gene pool a favor. Who knows?"

>>Not all about THEM... disproportionately ALL about the FEMALE. I would wager a year's salary that YOU are female.
 Quoting: Sinanju 449318


Yeah, I uses the pronoun "THEM". That includes both male and female. No one gives a crap about your wager. By saying that, you've shown that you are selfish and that you are still too busy being a child yourself no matter what sex you are. Grow up!
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Or maybe the mother was a horrible abuser who neglected the kids, and he knew she'd win.

There are three sides to this story His, Hers and the childrens....the sad thing is, only one side will be heard now.
anything after 'but' is bullshit!

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"By saying that, you've shown that you are selfish and that you are still too busy being a child yourself no matter what sex you are. Grow up!"

>>No, I am an asshole and proud of it. So, tread carefully, little one... or you might become the object of my angst.
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"By saying that, you've shown that you are selfish and that you are still too busy being a child yourself no matter what sex you are. Grow up!"

>>No, I am an asshole and proud of it. So, tread carefully, little one... or you might become the object of my angst.
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Exactly!
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Men SUCK. He was clearly a loser, if his actions don't prove that I don't know what does. At least his shitty worthless retard gene pool is ended.
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Seen that way... there's a little good in it... but well.
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I despise threads like this. Until we learn to value life over material things nothing will change. This was an act of a very disturbed man. He was so greedy that he even took his children's lives. This was to punish his wife. The ultimate act of revenge. He had lost his wife (which he obviously viewed as a possession), his house, his job (I wonder why?), and felt he was losing everything. There are statements from others saying this man was very abusive.

No matter what drove him to this - who in the hell is he to decide that these children should not live?

They were huddled with him out of fear. He was probably acting very bizarrely and the children were terrified. This does not show that the children loved him more. He viewed them as possessions also.

There is not one thing that can justify what this man has done. Nothing! This was pure revenge, the height of selfishness and if there is a hell this man will burn in it. No mother or father on earth deserves to have their children taken from them by an egotistical, suicidal maniac. Obviously by his actions this man was not fit to have these kids. He played God in determining that they should die.

Some people on this forum have no reasoning ability whatsoever.
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What the fuck is wrong with people? OMG.
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outside of the assinine finger pointing




for the children flower May those left behind be comforted-they are free


of the savagery of this time-Being that he was seemingly brutal to her in some way and his stepson, she should of taken extra precautions for herself and her children.



regardless of the battle no one needed to die and the children are human beings not property


Unfortunately, he did not understand that regarding the kids and I doubt he did for her


I have been poisoned with carbon monoxide


it is quite painful and causes longterm damage

the children would of felt it before they went unconscious


he was very selfish in what he did-whether he was wronged or not-the point at this juncture is he was wrong-and no concessions for whatever happened to him-



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