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Anonymer Held
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This is a repost of a deleted thread of a repost of a deleted thread!???

Anyway, here you go An nonymous! Enjoy!

This reposting is going to take quite a long time. So bear with me. Or bare with me. Nudity most welcome!


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EUREKA! I´VE GOT IT! I´VE GOT IT, I´VE GOT IT, I´VE GOT IT!!!!!!!

An nonymous and A/C who mentioned the logos containing the towers - thank you...thank you....thank you! Because of that comment....I´VE GOT IT!

Was trying to figure out what the hell the significance of that meant. Tried various things, and then I´m here sitting for work and do one more search. A site came up featuring "the Labors of Hercules." I´m thinking, well, the Spartan/Lizard blood considered Hercules (Heracles) their father. So I open the site. There I see THE TWIN PILLARS OF HERCULES!!!!!!

That´s it!

From this site:

[link to phoenicia.org]

we have this history concerning the Pillars:

"The Pillars of Hercules, in Homer´s legend, were the two pillars on which Heracles, the original Greek form of the Roman mythical Hercules, mythically, fictitiously, pressed to separate Europe from Africa, and are today accepted as being two mountains at the mouth of the Mediterranean, where it meets the Atlantic Ocean, namely one on either side of the Straits of Gibraltar. (This is perhaps a Greek repetition of the Story of Sampson in Middle Eastern mythology, who was said to have brought down the building he was in by separating and shearing two of its columns.) Another myth concerns Hercules´ theft of the Golden Apples, placing the giant, Atlas, and his task of supporting the weight of the world, at the "Pillars of Hercules".

Get it? By knocking down the Pillars THEY ARE REPEATING THE ACT OF THEIR FATHER AND KNOCKING DOWN THE PILLARS GIVING NOTICE THAT THERE IS NO MORE SEPARATION BETWEEN COUNTRIES!!!!! They are also reinacting ritual!

Some more of the history because now it gets interesting.

"Historical Basis of the Mythology

1. The Phoenicians as Traders

The Phoenicians were involved in coastal trade from as early as 3000 BC. (a wreck discovered at Galeidonya, on the southern coast of Turkey dates from 1375 BC, and items discovered on it show it came from a developed maritime trading society on the Canaanite coast). The first clients they would have found Southwards along their coast from their cities at Tyre, Byblos, Sidon, Sarepta, Aradus, and Ugarit, would have been the Egyptians, who were engaged in a fever of Pyramid building fuelled by the wealth provided by the fertility of the Nile basin. The first products they traded were timbers for building construction from the cedar trees for which Lebanon is still renown, Phoenician crafts which were valued in Egypt, such as the manufacture of glass, silk from their trading with tribes to the east, possibly originating in India, and which the Phoenicians dyed with the purple ink they obtained from a marine snail found on their coast, a whelk, the Murex Murex, (other shades of purple requiring the addition of inks from other species of marine snails, all of which were more or less common throughout the Mediterranean)."

Notice the inclusion of Byblos. That is the emblem of Free Masonry mentioned earlier. There is a picture of the Virgin (Isis) weeping over the destruction of the two towers at BYBLOS!

Next:

" This purple silk was favoured by aristocratic Egyptians, and was extremely expensive. It was later adopted by the Romans and later by the Royal Houses of Europe ; the colour has become known as "Tyrrhian Purple" or "Royal Purple". Its high cost led the Romans to use a white toga with a narrow band of purple material. The process was tedious and consequently expensive. For example the length necessary to make one robe would have been sold for the equivalent of the wages of a sea-captain for one year. (The greatest extravagance of all time was perhaps on the flagship of Cleopatra´s fleet, which is said to have sported a mainsail of Tyrrhian Purple.) Some authorities attribute the name Phoenicia to the Greeks, and a word of theirs meaning "Purple". One of their high-value, small-volume, ground-breaking products was glass for containers for liquids. This could well have been discovered as a by-product of the casting of bronze in the desert, a process described in Kings 1 in connection with the construction of the first temple of Solomon in Jerusalem. In order to provide these products and services they built their own port at the Nile Delta near to what was to become Alexandria.

As Egypt grew more powerful, and united its North and South Kingdoms it expanded its land frontiers, and in 1800 BC Egypt invaded, and occupied all the Canaanite settlements on the Eastern Mediterranean coast including their Nile port.

The occupation did not appear to change the commercial relationship, and throughout the period of occupation and after it, about 1100 BC, trading with Egypt continued."

Note the tie-in to Canaan, the place where Noah´s son went to practice sorcery and worship Azazel. Note also the significance of wearing purple denoting "Royal Houses" and therefore "Royal BLOOD!" Note also the reference to the Greek derivation of Phoenician meaning "purple"! Then we come to the subject of BRONZE!!

"In 2500 B.C. the peoples around the Mediterranean basin were still in the New Stone Age or Neolithic, having Copper as the only available metal. On arrival on the Atlantic coast of France the Phoenicians came for the first time upon tin, and either devised or learned the technology necessary to convert it to Bronze by combining it with Copper, which was freely available in the Middle East. Bronze is a far superior material to Copper for practically all purposes, it is stronger to use for weapons and as armour for men and fixings and cladding for ships, and is less prone to rusting. This would be the equivalent today, if such a parallel is wise or possible, of one country coming secretly on the only source of Uranium for Nuclear weapons. "

Note that the Phoenicians were the first to convert tin to BRONZE! Note also the liken it to having nuclear weapons so others were defenseless and turned over their land to them! And now we come to another crucial lynchpin.

From this site:

[link to apokalypso.com]

we have:

"Students of Nostradamus know that he loved to play games with the multiple meanings and connotations of words, both within the same language and across the many different languages he had mastered. In French the word chef means "head" in the sense of a "head nurse" or a "Head of State", as opposed to the anatomical head, which is tête. Thus, Nostradamus invokes two elements of Nero redivivus lore -- his mortal wound and his re-emergence as a Persia ruler -- by referring to the reborn emperor both as "le chef de Perse" and "tête Perse".(42) Another title by which the Provençal seer betokens Nero-cum-Antichrist is "Bronzebeard"(43) -- which is the Latin meaning of his father´s family name Aenobarbus and an allusion as well to the Emperor´s narcissistic mania for brazen self-images."

So Nostradamus joked about the nero-cum-Antichrist being ´BRONZEBEARD!" AND the head of state! There is much more on this subject. I am not posting all there is as I am only posting what is necessary.

Then this site ties into Moloch, Satan/Set and the children of Hercules, the Phoenicians:

"Quite fittingly, then, Moloch is the Lord of the City of the World. The people of this City conceive of Time as a permanent condition, and of the World as their perpetual habitation. In the fantasies of their literature, they picture endlessly successive future ages in which Man´s dominion extends across the Universe and his power reshapes Creation to his own liking. In mythology, we find the archetype of the Hero, the superman whose astounding feats of strength and daring win for him the prize of earthly immortality. Our culture, which is an extension of the Greco-Roman civilization, associates this archetype with Hercules, and indeed, we find in the Sanskrit etymology of Heri-cûleus the selfsame title -- "Lord of the City" -- to which the Punic Moloch owes his name.

In fact, the ancient Greek historian Herodotus traces the mythical origins of Hercules to the Phoenician city of Tyre, where the idol was worshiped in the form of twin pillars of gold and emerald.(9) A similar shrine was erected by the Phoenicians near Gibraltar, hence the well-known appellation of the Straits: the "Pillars of Hercules". As was previously discussed at length, duality is an attribute of Set/Satan, the principle of scission which divides Time from Eternity, and it is this duplicity which is symbolically invoked by the two pillars. Further supporting the thesis that Hercules represents the Greek version of Moloch is the lore surrounding the famous "Twelve Labors" of the Hellenic Hero. One part of the myth relates that the Labors of Hercules were atonement for his murder of his own children, creating the strong inference that his "immortality", like that of his Punic namesake, was based on child sacrifice. Given this background, we are not surprised to learn that the family name of Herod the Great derives from his ancestor having been a temple slave to Tyrian Hercules.(10)

The Labors of Hercules are in fact metaphors for pagan rituals which purported to confer upon a "sacred king" endless life in an earthly paradise. This "life without end" -- actually perpetual death in exile from Eternity -- was granted by the great Moon goddess, who the Greeks called by the name Hecate, signifying "one hundred" -- a hundred months being the term of the sacred king´s reign, after which he was sacrificed to the goddess. As his reward, the king would receive from the hand of the lunar goddess an apple, which served as his passport to a fabled island, located in the Western Ocean beyond the Pillars of Hercules, where he would live forever, never growing old. In Homer´s Odyssey, this island is called "Ogygia", after Ogyges, the legendary ruler of Greece at the time of the Deluge -- which tends to identify the isle with storied Atlantis. Presiding over the sepulchral island of Ogygia is the nymph Kalypso, whose name, meaning "hidden", is the antithesis of Apokalypso -- the uncovering of the Eternal immanent in the temporal."

Note how pagan rituals reinacted the Labors of Hercules! This is what is being done. If you look at the recent "crashing" of a rocket into Jupiter, you will see it was done to kill the Nemean Lion! Look at a map of the sky at that time and you´ll see. It was in the middle of a triangle of the stars of Leo!

Next we have:

[link to www.semjaaza.com]

This is an amazing site! Again I am NOT posting the site in its entirety.

"HE SERPENT PEOPLE

"The nagas are still worshiped as deities in most
villages of southern India."
"Hindu Polytheism" ~ Sri Alain Danielou


WHO WERE THE NAGAS ?

The nagas or serpent-people of India and Malaysia have always been a great fascination and mystery to me. In the above quoted book, it is said of them:

"The nagas are linked with the antigods [asuras]. They are represented as half human, half serpent. They are possessed of great courage and are quick and violent. They are handsome and wear jewels, crowns, and large earrings....

"The nagas are also known as serpents (sarpa), creeping-creatures (pannaga), those creeping-on-their-chests (uraga), those creeping-on-their-shoulders (bhu-janga), goat-eaters (ajagara)....

"The nagas dwell in an underworld, the serpent-world (naga-loka), which is an immense domain crowded with palaces, houses, towers, and pleasure gardens. This serpent world is also called Patala or Niraya [Hell]. It´s main city is the City-of-Pleasures (Bhogovati) ruled by Vasuki."

Next we have this:

"GENII

These serpent-people are considered genii in the Hindu pantheon. That is (to use the Theosophical Society´s glossary once more) ..."

"...s Iblis in Islamic lore, the Watcher Azazel is said to be the father of all evil genii. Lilith, the first wife of Adam (that didn´t quite work out) is said to be the mother of the djinn - particularly the efreet. I mention this, because of the association with genii or djinn to angels and tutelary deities. The Watchers (both good and bad ones) are the closest thing to tutelary deities in Hebrew and Christian lore. Also, recall that the Seraphim chora of angels, to which most of the chiefs of the Watchers belonged, are known as ´fiery serpents´. Ea/Enki is refered to as ´the Wise Serpent´ or (in Hebrew) the nachash - which is very reminiscent of the word naga. So, here we have a tie-in between serpents and creatures of fire and Seraphim that is not a far stretch."

BINGO! Another bull´s eye! there´s our Azazel. And who does this website think are these "snake people"? PHOENICIANS!

"SO...?

Taking all this information and putting it together in my head (a dangerous place), everything keeps pointing back to some portion of the Pani or Phoenicians as the nagas, the asuras or anti-gods, and possibly the Watchers and Sumerian gods. These mariners were most definitely at home, on, in or near the water and all of their major settlements were at the water´s edge. (Of course.) Rajeswar Gupta, who wrote the above linked Rig Veda article about the Panis says that they were not asuras but I don´t happen to agree with him on that point. I don´t know where he gets his information that the Pani claim to have been civilized for 30,000 years, but it seems tempting with my thoughts on the whereabouts of Atlantis and that mention of the stone-tool factory from my PLATO´S ATLANTIS page (repeated here for your convenience) to tie those things together:

"Stone age implements found in North Borneo (Sabah) at a site called Tingkayu have been dated back as far as 31,000 BC and are considered to be some of the finest examples (if not the finest) of their kind."

Mr. Gupta´s article is written in a sufficiently sane and rational manner that tends to make me trust what he says. The things that can be proved from the Rig Veda itself are verifiable. I prefer to reduce the myth away and all the fabulousness of these early writings and put them into an human and historical frame. I try not to push things too far, although some people might think that I have. It´s all speculation based on many different bits and pieces of information. I do try to check the validity of the information that I use, when it is possible to do so.

It is well-known that the Phoenicians were great craftsmen in wood, stone, metal, pottery, textiles and glass. They didn´t just spring up out of nowhere with all these abilities and talents. They were honed and developed over a long period of time. Beautifully carved white marble sarcophagi that are described as the equivalent of Greek sculpture have been found in Sidon. Many of them are now on display in the Beruit National Museum. Unfortunately, I cannot find any pictures of them. This, added to the fact that the Phoenicians, by virtue of their skills, their ´dangerous´ knowledge, their religious preferences (paganism) and their great success as merchants always eventually seemed to make them unpopular pariahs wherever they went. This very identical situation has reared it´s head in our times, with the internecine battles going on in West Pakistan between the Hindus and the Moslems. It basically all boils down to the fact that the Hindus allowed the Moslems to live amongst them and the Moslems have become rich and prosperous there, from the Hindus. The argument over rebuilding Ayodhya temple is but a pretension to cover the true reason for the Hindus´ hatred for the Moslems.

Related reading of interest:

Song of the Dragon - good article!
Flying Serpents and Dragons - disregard 95% of what the Editor says and just read the rest. This is part of a book about ´Reptoids´, which I find as spurious and mentally entertaining as many of Sitchin´s works, but the author does present some relevant points to what I´ve said above that are mostly ´known and accepted´ facts.

One more thing as if this wasn´t enough:

"It is, therefore, of more than passing historical interest that the people who gave Moloch his name were the Phoenicians, the preeminent merchants of the ancient world -- and possibly of the antediluvian world as well. Of the entire catalog of abominations which Scripture enumerates, a substantial portion are of Phoenician pedigree, including the likes of Baal, Dagon, Tammuz, and Astarte. The Phoenicians introduced the earliest known version of the alphabet we now use, and they founded great cities wherever they traded: Tyre, Cadiz, Marseilles, perhaps even Troy were all one-time Phoenician ports. Of all the Punic cities, the most renowned, however, was Carthage, the imperial rival of Rome herself and home of the invincible conqueror Hannibal. Actually, Carthage gets its name from the Punic word for "city", kartha, from which also derived the title of the City´s tutelary god -- Mel-Kartha, the "Lord of the City", which the Hebrews rendered as Milcom or Moloch. "

So indeed Moloch is a city. I will have more to say about this later.

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Right now we have being played our in living color, the 12 Labors of Hercules. The third labor?

"The Hind of Ceryneia
Diana´s Pet Deer"

I believe Diana became the pet deer. She was often likened to that of being stalked and the prey. So they killed Diana to carry out the ritual.

If you want to read about all the rituals, they are here:

[link to www.perseus.tufts.edu]
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A/C 6:01
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I haven´t read it all yet, but certainly it deserves a bump based upon what little I did read!
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A/C 6:01 -

As I posted in some other threads, I was typing this when the "purge" took place. I went to post it and the server could not be found. Hmmmm.......

Funnily enough I copied what I wrote and saved it into a word document. I NEVER do that, but this time I did. So if they purge this one, I´ll post the damned thing again!

I suggest to anyone that finds anything in here interesting, to copy it and keep your own copy!
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we are watching you.
A/C 7:35
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Great work AF
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Hmmm.....you must be silenced.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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>>The greatest extravagance of all time was perhaps on the flagship of Cleopatra´s fleet, which is said to have sported a mainsail of Tyrrhian Purple<<



And don´t forget to add they smelled delicious.



Cleo
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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This one used to be tasty,but they say it´s down for sme reason,you might chesck it from time to time.
www.illuminati_ritual_alignments.com
right it down,or save any way you want.
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A/C 7:35 -

Thanks.

There are so many connections in those links I gave, I can´t even begin to explain to people who haven´t opened them what the hell I left out. Like the links on Moloch tie into Castor & Pollox (the Dioscuri twins) which I´ve already written about (although God knows if it survived the purge) and that ties into Gemini which is Spooky Poppa Bush´s dad. Then there are the prophecies of Nostradamus that I need to post that tie into this perfectly also. When you put all the pieces together, this is looking like a Christmas present wrapped up with a bow.

I´m going to try to post the picture I have re: Jupiter being smack dab in the triangle of Leo when the missile slammed into it. If it works, I´ll let you all know since I don´t remember the name of the site where I got the picture.
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my mighty demonic billygoat appetite made short work of your post, mortal

now, off to munch down elaine´s plastic strap-on dick
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Listen to this over at cso.
cyberspacerobit.com/chakra_new.html
Takes a little bit if you are running on coal power,like I am,yours may be faster.
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Posted the pic on Webshots. Here is the link:

[link to community.webshots.com]
action=showMyPhoto&albumID=114569112&
photoID=114569233&security=cRKcWu

Again it´s a diagram of where Jupiter was positioned when the missile slammed into it.
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AF, this was odd. I tried to save to drive your first post about THE TWIN TOWERS - SACRIFICE TO AZAZEL, but the save button didn´t work. Had to copy/paste to a blank e-mail! Odd, the 2nd page would have saved easlily, but the first page had the info pertinent to the towers. Now you say that post was deleted. This post was saved normally to my drive. Happy day.

If you like, I will post the first page of your first post with the same subject line and your user name. Just say the word! I´ll give it my best shot.

Thank you for delving into this subject. What an education we are getting! Intensely interesting, too. You are one reason I keep returning to this forum.

BJ
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Urinal Cake -

This link:

cyberspacerobit.com/chakra_new.html

doesn´t appear to be working.
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BJ -

Thank you! I owe you big time!

I would love it if you could post it because it will give this thread some continuity.

Thanks again!
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cleopatra your looking good there!
A/C 8:31
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AF, would you like me to start a new post or add it to this one? I need to add the contributers, as well, although theirs will have to be copied and pasted one at a time. On the left side of the page we have the AVs and ACs posting, so I will have to do some deleting. Otherwise, I don´t know what would be the outcome! OK, front page or here?

BJ
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Please just add it here. Just post that you´re doing that and I think people will understand it´s from the old post.

Thanks again, BJ.
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TWIN TOWERS - BUSH SACRIFICE TO AZAZEL?

The Apocalypse of Abraham also associates Azazel with Hell. Abraham says to him "May you be the firebrand of the furnace of the earth! Go, Azazel, into the untrodden parts of the earth. For your heritage is over those who are with you" (14:5-6) There is also the idea that God´s heritage (the created world) is largely under the dominion of evil. It is "shared with Azazel" (20:5) Azazel is also identified with the serpent which tempted Eve. His form is described as a dragon with "hands and feet like a man´s, on his back six wings on the right and six on the left." (23:7)

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We know these Lizards love symbolism. This story would seem to fit in nicely with that idea. For "There is also the idea that God´s heritage (the created world) is largely under the It´s interesting that at the time the Twin Towers were being decimated, that our Lil´ Lizard President sat reading a story about a goat. We can confirm that with this link:

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[link to www.patriotsaints.com]
Conspiracy/Bush/Booker/

"Pretending Nothing is Wrong

(9:02 to approx. 9:29 A.M.) Bush reads a story to 18 Booker Elementary School second-graders about a girl´s pet goat."

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I was doing some research on the origins of these three-fingered Lizards. Found some very interesting things which I will post. I also came upon this intriguing bit concerning a goat. It´s from this link. I´ll quote the beginning of the story of Azazel as it sets up the rest.

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[link to www.meta-religion.com]
judeo-christian_demons.htm

"Azazel

Azazel is the chief of the Se´irim, or goat-demons, who haunted the desert and to whom most primitive Semitic (most likely non-Hebrew) tribes offered sacrifices. The Old Testament states that Jeroboam appointed priests for the Se´irim. But Josiah destroyed the places of their worship, as the practices accompanying this worship involved copulation of women with goats.

The Se´irim, or hairy demons as the word itself means, are mentioned in Leviticus 17:7 and 2 Chronicles 11:15 as "goat-demons". Isaiah 34:14 says that the "goat-demons" greet each other amoung the ruins of Edom along with Lilith and other wild beasts."

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Okay, now for where this further ties into the Twin Towers. In the next passage, we see that Azazel is also portrayed as an unclean bird. Maybe like a plane or two? Or three?

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"In the Apocalypse of Abraham, Azazel is portrayed as an unclean bird which came down upon the sacrifice which Abraham prepared. This is in reference to Genesis 15:11 "Birds of prey came down upon the carcasses, and Abram drove them away."

"And the unclean bird spoke to me and said, ´What are you doing, Abraham, on the holy heights, where no one eats of drinks, nor is there upon them food for men. But these all will be consumed by fire and ascend to the height, they will destroy you.´ And it came to pass when I saw the bird speaking I said this to the angel: ´What is this, my lord?´ And he said, ´This is disgrace, this is Azazel!´ And he said to him, ´Shame on you Azazel! For Abraham´s portion is in heaven, and yours is on earth, for you have selected here, (and) become enamored of the dwelling place of your blemish. Therefore the Eternal Ruler, the Mighty One, has given you a dwelling on earth. Through you the all-evil spirit (is) a liar, and through you (are) wrath and trials on the generations of men who live impiously." - Apocalypse of Abraham 13:4-9

dominion of evil. It is "shared with Azazel" And while Abraham´s portion is in heaven, ours unfortunately is on earth under the dominion of Azazel and these Lizards who would seem to worship him and even offer him sacrifices.
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Allegedly the created world was created by the abomination Ialdaboath, and the world itself is rife with imperfection, as a result of being created by the abomination. Wisdom (SOPHIA) had pity on humanity, as they were sentient, and gave them souls.
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Fascinating. Can you tell us why you forgot to mention other important features of Azazel?

Dictionnaire Infernal - Collin de Plancy (1863)
- paraphrased

Azazel is guardian of goats. On the 10th day of September, on the feast of the Expiation, it was Jewish custom to draw lots for two goats: one for the Lord and the other for Azazel. The goat for the Lord was then sacrificed and its blood served as atonement. With the goat for Azazel, the high priest would place both of his hands on the goat´s head and confess both his sins and the sins of the people. The goat ("scapegoate") was then led into the desert and set free. Azazel then returned the goat. Milton described Azazel as the first gate-teacher of the infernal armies. Azazel is also the name of the demon that serves Mark the heretic.

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So from this we can assume that the Twin Towers where a Sacrifice to God (The Lord on High) and Azazel.

Perhaps Bush "confessed" his sins and the sins of the American People on that day, and offered up the twin Goats of towers 1 & 2.

Perhaps one of the towers was a scapegoat?

And if he was Reading Mary Had a Little Lamb, would you tie in that Christ (The known Lamb of God) was part of 9-11 too?
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interesting theory, but i have to go with all-american new englander h p lovecraft´s cthulhu mythos:

dubnyarlathotep, mouthpiece of the elder statesmen gods, took the form of shrub niggurath, black goat story reader to a thousand young

h p uses the name gilman as the protagonist in several stories, and a skull and bonesman gilman formally turned the fratpack into the russell trust, from which it grew to control yale university´s finances, and most of the real estate in connecticut

believe that dubynarlathotep did serve the blind writhing abyss god AZAtoth, though, so their is some overlap
AC 1/25/2004
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Good post, AF and, as usual, thought provoking.

It cleared up something that was unclear before, and that is the Hebrew sacrifice of the lamb, then the beating given the goat, which was then chased away, bearing the sins of the people.

We come to the crucificion of Jesus, the Lamb, Who was sacrificed for sin, and now we see the sin transferred to the Goat, who is called Satan or Azezel. It all makes sense to me now.

BJ
Anonymer Held
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Azerelus -

RE: "Can you tell us why you forgot to mention other important features of Azazel?"

I didn´t forget. I just posted a portion of what the entire story is, but I believe I gave the link for everyone to read the entire story. It´s sort of like "you´re damned if you do and you´re damned if you don´t," because others complain about "long" cut-and-paste posts that don´t sum things up.

In the link given, there is also a reference to a "twin" sacrifice.

As to the other comments, thanks for getting this. I´m sort of surprised that no one has made the connection or at least put it in writing. Probably the latter is closer to the truth.
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Necramericanomicon -

RE: "dubnyarlathotep, mouthpiece of the elder statesmen gods, took the form of shrub niggurath, black goat story reader to a thousand young"

Yes, your theory is sound. It makes sense seen in that context also. The thing I´m beginning to understand is that things are all connected, and that if you don´t find the double and triple meaning (in other words, ALL the implications), you miss some of the truth.

Thanks for your comments.
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"The goat ("scapegoate") was then led into the desert and set free. Azazel then returned the goat."

"Perhaps one of the towers was a scapegoat?"

Since they´re rebuilding, but with only one tall tower, is that the goat returned by Azazel?

Interesting to think about.
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lovecraft did mention the cursed voice of azazel in "The Dunwich Horror":


[link to www.cthuugle.com]


The Dunwich Horror by H. P. Lovecraft
... ;It must be allow´d, that these Blasphemies of an infernall Train of Daemons are Matters of too common Knowledge to be deny´d; the cursed Voices of >>>Azazel<<< and Buzrael, of Beelzebub and Belial, being heard now from under Ground by above a Score of credible Witnesses now living. I myself did not more than ...
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The Holiness of Azédarac By Clark Ashton Smith
... now learned that he was sent to Ximes by the Archbishop of Averoigne for no other purpose than to gather proof of my subterraneous connection with Azazel and the Old Ones. He has spied upon my evocations in the vaults, he has heard the hidden formulae, and beheld the veritable manifestation of Lilit ...
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A/C 5:03 -

Yes, and it could be the scapegoat is symbolic of making another a scapegoat for this crime.

In terms of leaving one building standing, we have another part of the story that would support that. It has to do with the offering of two goats. It´s from the link I posted.

"In Leviticus 16:8 we are told that the Lord ordered his high priest, Aaron, to ´place lots upon the two goats, one marked for the Lord and the other marked for Azazel´ on the Jewish Day of Atonement. The goat designated by lot for the Lord is to be used as a sin offering, while the goat designated for Azazel "shall be left standing alive before the Lord, to make expiation with it and to send it off to the wilderness for Azazel."

And thus one "shall be left standing."

Another tidbit:

" [link to www.newadvent.org]

Day of Atonement
(Hebrew Yom Hakkippurim. Vulgate, Dies Expiationum, and Dies Propitiationis — Leviticus 23:27-28)
The rites to be observed on the Day of Atonement are fully set forth in the sixteenth chapter of Leviticus (cf. Exodus 30:10; Leviticus 23:27-31, 25:9; Numbers 29:7-11). It was a most solemn fast, on which no food could be taken throughout the whole the day, and servile works were forbidden. It was kept on nineteenth day of Tischri, which falls in September/October. The sacrifices included a calf, a ram, and seven lambs (Numbers 29:8-11). But the distinctive ceremony of the day was the offering of the two goats."

Note again the offering was of two goats. And servile works were forbidden. I guess no servile work could have taken place after those planes hit. Also please take notice of "Numbers 29:8-11." The last numbers are 9:11. Coincidence? But do the other numbers hold significance? From this website:

[link to www.soulwise.net]

I´ve taken the flight numbers:

The first plane to hit was Flight 11 with 92 (92 a backwards 29) on board.

"The second plane to hit the towers was Flight 175 with 65 on board: 6 + 5 = 11"

"Flight 93 which crashed near Pittsburg with 38 on board: 3 + 8 = 11"

So you see how all the numbers of 29:8-11 come into play.

Probably just another coincidence. Like all those microbiologists dropping like flies.
AC 1/25/2004 6:33 pm
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"subterraneous connection with Azazel and the Old Ones..."

Isn´t that their abode? There are many underground caverns in the earth all over the world. Some call them ETs and some call them lizzards.
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a.f., here is passage that lovecraft mentions azazel in...

although dubya is described in horrific detail in the following excerpt,

"the natives are now repellently decadent, having gone far along that path of retrogression so common in many New England backwaters. They have come to form a race by themselves, with the well-defined mental and physical stigmata of degeneracy and inbreeding. The average of their intelligence is woefully low, whilst their annals reek of overt viciousness and of half-hidden murders, incests, and deeds of almost unnameable violence and perversity."

and makes believable the possibility that the bushes migrated from salem to kennebunkport (even though he went to yale, and not harvard or mishkatonic), the telling phrase is the last: "the Devil´s Hop Yard - a bleak, blasted hillside where no tree, >>>shrub<<<, or grass-blade will grow" (while this shrub is growing apace in the Devil´s GOP Backyard, a puzzling yet revolting turn of affairs...)



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Outsiders visit Dunwich as seldom as possible, and since a certain season of horror all the signboards pointing towards it have been taken down. The scenery, judged by an ordinary aesthetic canon, is more than commonly beautiful; yet there is no influx of artists or summer tourists. Two centuries ago, when talk of witch-blood, Satan-worship, and strange forest presences was not laughed at, it was the custom to give reasons for avoiding the locality. In our sensible age - since the Dunwich horror of 1928 was hushed up by those who had the town´s and the world´s welfare at heart - people shun it without knowing exactly why. Perhaps one reason - though it cannot apply to uninformed strangers - is that the natives are now repellently decadent, having gone far along that path of retrogression so common in many New England backwaters. They have come to form a race by themselves, with the well-defined mental and physical stigmata of degeneracy and inbreeding. The average of their intelligence is woefully low, whilst their annals reek of overt viciousness and of half-hidden murders, incests, and deeds of almost unnameable violence and perversity. The old gentry, representing the two or three armigerous families which came from Salem in 1692, have kept somewhat above the general level of decay; though many branches are sunk into the sordid populace so deeply that only their names remain as a key to the origin they disgrace. Some of the Whateleys and Bishops still send their eldest sons to Harvard and Miskatonic, though those sons seldom return to the mouldering gambrel roofs under which they and their ancestors were born.

No one, even those who have the facts concerning the recent horror, can say just what is the matter with Dunwich; though old legends speak of unhallowed rites and conclaves of the Indians, amidst which they called forbidden shapes of shadow out of the great rounded hills, and made wild orgiastic prayers that were answered by loud crackings and rumblings from the ground below. In 1747 the Reverend Abijah Hoadley, newly come to the Congregational Church at Dunwich Village, preached a memorable sermon on the close presence of Satan and his imps; in which he said:

"It must be allow´d, that these Blasphemies of an infernall Train of Daemons are Matters of too common Knowledge to be deny´d; the cursed Voices of Azazel and Buzrael, of Beelzebub and Belial, being heard now from under Ground by above a Score of credible Witnesses now living. I myself did not more than a Fortnight ago catch a very plain Discourse of evill Powers in the Hill behind my House; wherein there were a Rattling and Rolling, Groaning, Screeching, and Hissing, such as no Things of this Earth could raise up, and which must needs have come from those Caves that only black Magick can discover, and only the Divell unlock".

Mr. Hoadley disappeared soon after delivering this sermon, but the text, printed in Springfield, is still extant. Noises in the hills continued to be reported from year to year, and still form a puzzle to geologists and physiographers.

Other traditions tell of foul odours near the hill-crowning circles of stone pillars, and of rushing airy presences to be heard faintly at certain hours from stated points at the bottom of the great ravines; while still others try to explain the Devil´s Hop Yard - a bleak, blasted hillside where no tree, shrub, or grass-blade will grow.





GLP