Suddenly Obama has Muslim roots....lol | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 404735 United States 01/28/2009 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow I guess this is for the people who missed him admitting all of this in 07. [link to firstread.msnbc.msn.com] "My father was from Kenya,” he said, “and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn’t practice Islam. Truth is he wasn’t very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I’ve always been a Christian. The only connection I’ve had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father’s side came from that country. But I’ve never practiced Islam." More: "For a while, I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that’s a Muslim country. And I went to school. But I didn’t practice. But what I do think it does is it gives me insight into how these folks think, and part of how I think we can create a better relationship with the Middle East and that would help make us safer is if we can understand how they think about issues." and again here in Jan 08 [link to yalibnan.com] "My father was a Muslim and although I did not know him well the religion of my father and his family was always something I had an interest in. This interest became more intense when my mother re-married an Indonesian Muslim man. As a small child, I lived in Indonesia and attended school alongside Muslim pupils. I saw their parents dutifully observing the daily prayers, the mothers covered in the Muslim hijab, the change of atmosphere of the school during Ramadan, and the festiveness of the Eid celebrations." "The man my mother was married to was not particularly religious; but he would attend the mosque on occasion, and had copies of the Quran in different languages in the home, and books of the sayings and life of the Prophet Muhammad. From time to time he would quote Islamic phrases such as "no one truly believes until he wants for his brother what he wants for himself", "oppression is worse than slaughter", and "all humans are equal the only difference comes from our deeds". "Growing up in Hawaii with my mother and her grandparents Islam largely escaped my mind. My mother installed in me the values of humanism and I did not grow-up in a home were religion was taught." "It was later while I attended college at Columbia University and Harvard Law that I became reacquainted with Muslims as both schools had large Muslims student populations. Some of them were my friends and many came from countries that our nation now has hostile relations with. The background I had from my early childhood in Indonesia helped me get to know them and learn from them and to me Muslims are not to be looked upon as something strange. In my experiences up until college a Muslim was no less exotic to me than a Mormon, a Jew, or a Jehovah's Witness." |
mathetes (OP) User ID: 514914 United States 01/28/2009 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so , why is this a bad thing. Quoting: BigboatIn itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
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ANNONYMOUS User ID: 546346 United States 01/28/2009 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting points to be found here. While I expected some for of attempted raprochmant I hardly thought it would be quite this fast or in this fashion. When Barack gets his nose bloodied so to speak by the Muslim nations perhaps his perspective will change somewhat. |
mathetes (OP) User ID: 514914 United States 01/28/2009 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont we have freedom of religion in this country anyways? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 531633Absolutely! See above post For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Bigboat User ID: 308340 United States 01/28/2009 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so , why is this a bad thing. Quoting: mathetesIn itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay well , Fox news never felt it was off limits . mike savage railed on this every day . every one in my office always felt he was a muslim |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 563342 United States 01/28/2009 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suddenly Obama has Muslim roots....lol Quoting: mathetesI noticed the same thing. I guess this year its hip to be Muslim and Christianity was all the rage last year. Obama isnt presidential material. He is an actor who acts whatever part the people he is around want him to act. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 404735 United States 01/28/2009 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so , why is this a bad thing. Quoting: mathetesIn itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay Let me get this straigh. Are you saying that no one was trying to use Obamas name to make people think he was muslim or a terrorist supporter? I need to know what you think before I respond. No one used his name to trick less informed people into thinking he was a practicing muslim? |
mathetes (OP) User ID: 514914 United States 01/28/2009 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so , why is this a bad thing. Quoting: BigboatIn itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay well , Fox news never felt it was off limits . mike savage railed on this every day . every one in my office always felt he was a muslim Don't worry..they have plans for the people you mentioned Wait until they bring back the Fairness Doctrine...Savage will off the air and Fox will kowtow..Less than 2 yrs from now this will happen For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 531633 United States 01/28/2009 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suddenly Obama has Muslim roots....lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 563342I noticed the same thing. I guess this year its hip to be Muslim and Christianity was all the rage last year. Obama isnt presidential material. He is an actor who acts whatever part the people he is around want him to act. and you are an idiot. He is trying to set new terms with these people. Dubya fucked us over big time over there. Get a clue. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 404735 United States 01/28/2009 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so , why is this a bad thing. Quoting: BigboatIn itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay well , Fox news never felt it was off limits . mike savage railed on this every day . every one in my office always felt he was a muslim Excuse math he must not watch the MSM because this was covered heavily. Off limits my ass I have videos of Rep. rallies where it was mentioned over and over. Should I post these? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 404735 United States 01/28/2009 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so , why is this a bad thing. Quoting: mathetesIn itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay well , Fox news never felt it was off limits . mike savage railed on this every day . every one in my office always felt he was a muslim Don't worry..they have plans for the people you mentioned Wait until they bring back the Fairness Doctrine...Savage will off the air and Fox will kowtow..Less than 2 yrs from now this will happen Then in two years can I come on here and call you a fear mongering piece of shit when it does not. |
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mathetes (OP) User ID: 514914 United States 01/28/2009 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so , why is this a bad thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 404735In itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay well , Fox news never felt it was off limits . mike savage railed on this every day . every one in my office always felt he was a muslim Excuse math he must not watch the MSM because this was covered heavily. Off limits my ass I have videos of Rep. rallies where it was mentioned over and over. Should I post these? Sure, I'd love to see them! How many times did McCain bring it up? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 269684 United States 01/28/2009 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama DID want it downplayed during the campaign. Remember how he moved muslim women in headscarves out of the background in some of his event photos? He definently didn't want his high standing in the American muslim community to be mentioned during the election. How often were muslimsa in Dearborn interviewed? |
ANNONYMOUS User ID: 546346 United States 01/28/2009 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a solid supporter of Obama throughout the election process I can tell you that it was obvious to those of us who were aware that the whole Muslim connection was being played down by both the party and the campaign for obvious reasons. While there was no denial of his Muslim background likewise there was no attempt to garner votes by highlighting it either. |
We Are Dust User ID: 602891 United States 01/28/2009 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really all one needs in order to understand what's going on is a basic knowledge of the ol' 'bait and switch' routine. It does not hurt to understand the concept of 'hidden in plain sight' either. Politics as usual, except, this time the stakes are high. Americans and the world in general are almost ripe to accept Global governance and draconian control. No big deal huh? For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust. Psa 103:14 * |
Nailer45 User ID: 601507 United States 01/28/2009 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just charge obama with funding terrorists and giving them aid.. that would be a start. Why else would he be sucking up to muslim nations/terrorists ? Answer: so his muslim brothers will help him destroy the USA and become dictator.. Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 564059 United States 01/28/2009 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you and millions of other Americans have been duped. We have been warned previously the intent of muslims and you chose to ignore it. Thats the reason we have the right to free speech and to keep and bear arms. Barak has decidely overwhelmed you with his charisma and MUZAK style and we all have to deal with it. We have a 50-50 chance of overcoming this and I say deal with it. There are day before 911 and day after 911 Americans. You chose to be the day before person. SORRY |
Guns n' God User ID: 536602 United States 01/28/2009 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just charge obama with funding terrorists and giving them aid.. that would be a start. Why else would he be sucking up to muslim nations/terrorists ? Answer: so his muslim brothers will help him destroy the USA and become dictator.. Quoting: Nailer45Whether he's a bleeding heart or a closet Muslim, I think it's time to start impeachment proceedings. His actions in his first week alone have been disgraceful. |
SHR Forum Administrator 01/28/2009 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a solid supporter of Obama throughout the election process I can tell you that it was obvious to those of us who were aware that the whole Muslim connection was being played down by both the party and the campaign for obvious reasons. While there was no denial of his Muslim background likewise there was no attempt to garner votes by highlighting it either. Played down would be a bit of an understatement, now played up might fit his Christian image. What about the number of his own "Fight the smears" references to all Obama-Muslim connections? How about the Sheriff in Florida who merely called him Barack Hussein Obama and swiftly was investigated by the FBI? I agree with the article, that it went beyond downplay, it was off limits and enforced as such. So now he's like Mr Muslin roots and in his first week of foreign policy activity he practically gushing toward the most Islamic fundamentalist nations ie Iran?...C'mon...it reeks of hypocrisy. Also the more moderate Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia were non to pleased with his very friendly overtures toward Iran, was it really the wisest move to act all apologetic? Does he know how that will be viewed by all the Islamic nations? or is he displaying his lack of experience....again. Cause right now as far as I can see for results we have one of the most radical and aggressive nations telling us we're gonna have to say we are sorry and one of our more moderate allies pissed off. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 564059 United States 01/28/2009 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whether he's a bleeding heart or a closet Muslim, I think it's time to start impeachment proceedings. His actions in his first week alone have been disgraceful. Quoting: Guns n' GodOh no you cannot, you will be called a racist, and thats the crux of whats happened |