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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 644800 United States 04/04/2009 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe Neil Gaiman is her controller, who's controlling her mind, now that I think about it. All the times she mentioned him in songs, as some kind of savior for her. Some interesting pieces of information I found googling: Neil Gaiman is deeply involved in Scientology, along with his entire family. The USA Gaiman family were awarded “Founding Patron” and “Patron” of Scientology awards for 2004 & 2006 (2006 was the year Gaiman would have received large payments from Hollywood for his films) . According to ex-scientologist Jon Attack, “Patrons (are) the highest ranking membership - of the International Association of Scientologists.” Tori Amos studied Scientology and has a house outside of Clearwater Florida, Scientology’s world headquarters (where Neil Gaiman takes services according to Scientology Blogs). Tor Amos’ first producer/boyfriend Eric Rosse also produced Lisa Marie Presley’s album (Presley is another big Scientologist.) Scientologists like to work with each other, there is even an organization called WISE which is a directory of Scientology busnesses. Contrary to popular belief, Scientologists usually hide their status as cult members until they are outed by the press. The reporter from The Star who confessed to outing Cruise was attacked by Scientology in retaliation in accordance with Scientology’s “Fair Game Policy.” If association with Scientology cuts into profit, the Scientologists will keep it quiet. Just check Tom Cruise’s “completions.” He is an OT8 and an Auditor, but no completions are listed, they are hidden. Neil Gaiman’s association with Tori Amos seems to be a Scientology collaboration, where they boost each others sales. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add Neil Gaiman to the celebrity Scientology list. Neil Gaiman was a class VIII auditor and Executive Director of the Birmingham Org. He was case Supervisor at the Guardian Office. He’s listed as completing three Scientology courses in 1988 and his family members are heavy-weight Scientologists; father David Gaiman was head of the Guardian Office and is active in Russia, sister Claire Edwards is an executive in Scientology Missions International (the recruiting end of Scieno), wife Mary Gaiman is listed as “clear” in 2002, Mother Sheila Gaiman is a big time Scientologist with her own site and is active in Russia. Sister Lizzie Calcione “runs a Scientology practice in East Grinstead , that is a mixture of auditing and WISE delivery.” The Gaiman Family are listed as founding US “Patrons” of Scientology for 2004 & 2006 so they donate large amounts of money to “clear the planet.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everyone should care about Scientologists such as Neil Gaiman in a position to influence impressionable young minds. Mr. Gaiman’s musings could lead an innocent reader into adopting the Scientology world view, which is manifestly dangerous and destructive, or pursuing Scientology and becoming ensnared in a cult that destroys lives. Scientology uses mind-control techniques such as lie-detectors, interrogation, blackmail and “disconnection” (shunning of loved ones), Scientology strips people of money and autonomy. Ruthlessly attacking all perceived enemies with its Fair Game Policy (enemies can be "tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.), Scientology intimidates witnesses into silence. Scientology is psychologically and physically abusive, as exemplified by their Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) where Prison camps are run for "Sea Org" members in Los Angeles, Clearwater FL, Copenhagen and other sites. Scientology front groups like Narconon prey on people who have fallen through the cracks of society. Here is a great statement on the dangers of Scientology. The last time I ever witnessed a movement that had these qualifications: (1) a totally monolithic movement with a single point of view and a single authoritarian head; (2) replete with fanatical followers who are prepared and programmed to do anything their master says; (3) supplied by absolutely unlimited funds; (4) with a hatred of everyone on the outside; (5) with suspicion of parents, against their parents -- the last movement that had those qualifications was the Nazi youth movement, and I'll tell you, I'm scared. -- Rabbi Maurice Davis, Youth, Brainwashing and the Extremist Cults. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I read all of Neil's work, and I think he's probably the most important writer right now. There's no question that Neil is another league. When you look at certain artists who consider their work "dark," it's pretty much high school when you compare it with Neil's work, and the reason is because Neil understands light so perfectly, which enables him to go as deep as one can dream to." -- Tori on Neil, Prodigy On-line Chat; September 1994 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 644800 United States 04/04/2009 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One last thing then I'll stop. Clearly Neil is the one controlling her mind..... "If you need me, me and neil'll be hangin' out with the DREAM KING Neil says hi by the way" - Tear In Your Hand, Little Earthquakes "Seems i keep getting this story twisted, so where's Neil when you need him"" - Space Dog, Under The Pink "and if there is a way to find you, I will find you. but will you find me if Neil makes me a tree" - Horses, Boys For Pele. The "tree" Tori speak of, refers to a deal between her and Neil involving the novel, Stardust. "Got a sister named Desire...Teach me about them old worlds big brother" - Sister Named Desire (b-side) refers to Desire, one of the Endless from The Sandman series, and Delirium's older sibling. "Big brother" could also refer to a male sibling of the Endless. "Where are the Velvets?" - Hotel, From the Choirgirl Hotel. "The Velvets" refers to certain velvet-clad characters in Gaiman's novel, Neverwhere. "Get me Neil on the line. No, I can't hold. Have him read 'Snow Glass Apples' where nothing is what it seems" Carbon, Scarlet's Walk. 'Snow Glass Apples' refers to Gaiman's short story, published in Smoke & Mirrors. "Wednesday...so we go from year to year with secrets we've been keeping..." - Wednesday, Scarlet's Walk. Wednesday possibly refers to a devious character from Gaiman's best-selling novel, American Gods. ---------------------------------------------------------- "hi neil" - Under The Pink 'credits' "Neil and the Velvets" - From The Choirgirl Hotel 'thank yous'. "The Velvets" refer to the velvet-clad women in Gaiman's novel, Neverwhere. "Neil - send the Baku not the Nephilem" -To Venus And Back 'credits'. The "Baku" & "Nephilem" refer to characters from Gaiman's graphic novel, The Dream Hunters. "Impressions of Girls written by Neil Gaiman" -Strange Little Girls credits & tori-thanks. Neil wrote stories which accompanied the characters from the album. "Neil Gaiman -- keyscdstrucksbeachesinpockets" - Scarlet's Walk 'thanks to' album credits. taken from: hereinmyhead.com/neil/lyrics.html |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 644800 United States 04/04/2009 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] Video of "Welcome To England" from her new album coming out. anagram of Welcome To England is, "A Cold Gentlewomen". What do you make of the video? --------------- The more you watch it, the more you can see in the video & being to understand it in your own way. I like how natural & unpolished the video is. To me the video is about the power structure of England, which is why there is so much emphasis on pyramid shapes, statues of people who have became larger than life, and cock-shaped buildings that point up to the sky. Often it is said on conspiracy forums I've checked out that buildings that are pointed toward the sky, and have these long pointy antennas at top, send all the energy that is manifested inside of them up to the "false Gods" to swollow and eat up. Where do you think all the energy that is manifested in churches goes too? Why are most churches built to point all the energy up to the skies? Why are bank buildings the tallest buildings created? The first Tori (her in the red hair) I think is intended to represent the queen of England. Haven't you all seen footage of the Queen and her long flowing gown that drags past her? Underneath the gown is armor representing how the queen is protected and doesn't allow herself to feel anything, which is why Tori is so expressionless. Then walks out the american queen in all her glory on to a fallen-in pier and she looks out to the water. America is sinking, it's at the end of it's rope. Then comes in Isabel in her bubble in the air, taking photos of the american queen under her umbrella and other buildings around England. She's safe in her bubble as she watches America and it's people become the sacrifical lamb. That's what I pick up... -------------------- I can't get over how many power structures there are in this video. It's said that the illuminati worships the Phallus, and to make their point they have erected enough of their symbolic penises all over the world to show us they believe in penis power. I think Tori is trying to show us all the sin of England perhaps, the male dominance of power, and where it has led America. How can you bring your own sun? when they just gives us lies to lean on? When they just stick another phallus in our mouth to shut us up for awhile? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 393518 United States 04/04/2009 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also looks like she has had some botched plastic surgeries to make herself look younger to stay in the industry which causes her to not look like herself. She also just changed record companies and is trying to keep her career going in an industry that does not value middle age women. If that won't make you tired I don't know what will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 548848 United States 04/04/2009 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The relationship between Gaiman and Amos is probably more like agent and talent, manager and performer. It's difficult to judge whether any specific person is being controlled because people have a tendency to desire certain beliefs and see what they want to see. Even if presented with a realistic description or model of the world people tend to reject it in favor of one bent toward own biases. A common practice in acquiring minions, not that Gaiman is guilty of this because I don't know him at all, is to pitch your scheme toward the biases your target desires. Is is how religions and cults are made. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 393518 United States 04/04/2009 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got a big David dIcke vibe from the Welcome to England video. Also OP have you seen the press photo of her posing with a lizard? [link to www.yessaid.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 644800 United States 04/04/2009 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Found this on everything2.com: (maybe Trent Reznor has something to do with mind control too?) The links between Trent Reznor, Tori Amos and Neil Gaiman have disturbed me for a long time. No, I'm not referring to the fact that all three are wildly popular with Goth chicks. The connections are far more insidious. Ok, they're not really, but here they are anyway, or at least the ones I've been able to catalog: •Amos' song Tear In Your Hand from Little Earthquakes includes the lyric: "If you need me, me and Neil will be hanging out with the Dream King", which is a clear reference to Gaiman and his comic The Sandman. •Issue #41 of The Sandman, page 9, panel 5, has the song Tear In Your Hand "playing" in the background, specifically the lyric immediately preceeding the one mentioned above. •The Sandman character Delirium, when drawn by artist Jill Thompson, looks a lot like Tori Amos. •The Sandman himself, AKA Morpheus, when drawn by artist Jill Thompson, looks a lot like Trent Reznor. •Artist Jill Thompson pencilled the Sandman story arc Brief Lives. Issue #41 is the first issue in this story arc. •Amos lyric: Space Dog from Under The Pink: "Seems I keep getting this story twisted, so where's Neil when you need him?" •Another Amos lyric: Precious Things from Little Earthquakes: "Those Christian boys... with their Nine Inch Nails and little fascist panties tucked inside the heart of every nice girl." •Amos has a song, Professional Widow, with the word "starfucker" in what could nominally be called the chorus. Reznor has a song called Starfuckers Inc. •Still another Amos lyric: Caught a Lite Sneeze from Boys For Pele: "Caught a lite sneeze, dreamed a little dream, made my own Pretty Hate Machine". Gaiman bonus: Issue #3 of The Sandman is titled "Dream a Little Dream of Me". •Reznor sings backup vocals on Amos' song Past The Mission from Under The Pink. •Reznor makes frequent references to pigs, especially in lyrics from The Downward Spiral. Amos is pictured inside the sleeve of Boys For Pele breastfeeding a baby pig. Amos seems to be the nexus; I admit the Reznor-Gaiman links are weak and I'm still looking for more. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 644800 United States 04/04/2009 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe Trent/ Neil / Tori are all involved in the same cult together. Scientology? Antony Lavey understudies? who knows for sure? I've seen the Iguana photo with Tori. I wonder what it's trying to imply. found this in a dream dictionary: To see an iguana in your dream, represents harshness, cold-heartedness, fierceness, and inhuman poise. It is an indication of both hostility and unstoppable determination. The iguana may remind you of someone or some situation in your waking life that you find frightening yet awe inspiring. meanings by DreamMoods.com |
Xenus User ID: 625913 United States 04/04/2009 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Might be interesting to note that Trent Razor and his band are releasing FREE albums now on the net, and people love free stuff so they eat it up. Second one out shortly I think, if not out already. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 393518 United States 04/04/2009 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Reznor dumped her behind for Courtney Love rumor has it a long time ago. Now he hates Ms. Love though. Tori wrote Caught a Lite Sneeze to him to say you weren't that big of a deal. Tori says she is a Gnostic and Native American in her beliefs. (Wow I am listening to internet radio and this song came on by Ms. Amos herself as I am writing this up: Taxi Ride from Scarlet's Walk.) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 477332 United States 04/04/2009 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My experience in the big-time country music business was enough to verify Cathy O'Brien testimony in her book "TranceFormation of America" regarding Loretta Lynn, Barbara Mandrell and other country stars. The mind control is real and it-is-frightening. To unpeel the layers of programming is never ending and some end their lives because of it. Even if one could 'escape' (good luck), many therapists do not where to begin, much less understand it. When you see Britney, Modanna, Tori - watched Anna in her little girl makeup, plus the many other 'stars', you're watching programmed mind-controlled sex slaves in action. Simply put - NO ONE becomes a 'star' on their own. They are put there on purpose and only after intensive mind control at that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 548848 United States 04/04/2009 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My experience in the big-time country music business was enough to verify Cathy O'Brien testimony in her book "TranceFormation of America" regarding Loretta Lynn, Barbara Mandrell and other country stars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 477332The mind control is real and it-is-frightening. To unpeel the layers of programming is never ending and some end their lives because of it. Even if one could 'escape' (good luck), many therapists do not where to begin, much less understand it. When you see Britney, Modanna, Tori - watched Anna in her little girl makeup, plus the many other 'stars', you're watching programmed mind-controlled sex slaves in action. Simply put - NO ONE becomes a 'star' on their own. They are put there on purpose and only after intensive mind control at that. Show business in general, apparently. All the symbolism in the Shirley Temple movies for example, before any official MK-Ultra program, and that disturbing Salvador Dali painting of her |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 393518 United States 04/04/2009 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have read interviews where Tori talks in detail about avoiding mind control. So...I guess if she is she is trying to break free from it. I don't think she is a bad guy. I have noticed that before an album of hers is released she gets attacked on forums like this. Wonder what is on that album hmm...LOL. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 717591 United States 10/16/2009 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tori Amos: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] I don't know if any of you have heard of Tori Amos but I always found her lyrics to be rather intriguing. She's some Piano Prodigy (started playing when she was only 2) and has sold millions of records. Her and Trent Reznor of NIN use to date, and she hates Courtney Love (wrote a song about her called Professional Widow)...I don't know what side she's on, or if she's apart of the alien agenda but she always talks about gnostic themes, spiritual related matters, and aliens in many of her songs. She's great with metaphors. I've also seen video footage of her in concert where she seems posessed or in a mind-controlled state of mind. It hurts to watch. The posession video: [link to youtube.com] At 4:00 she goes into this weird grunt for 30 seconds, then after that at 5:40 she seems to make her eyes cross-sided then goes down into a scary freakout that makes me get chills all over my body. Me and a gun Chicago live video: [link to youtube.com] Towards the end she holds a knife to her thigh, and acts like shes jabbing it in her cooter, and then pulls a gun to her head but she didn't pull the trigger. |
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Nepenthe User ID: 789335 United States 10/16/2009 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Found this on everything2.com: (maybe Trent Reznor has something to do with mind control too?) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 644800The links between Trent Reznor, Tori Amos and Neil Gaiman have disturbed me for a long time. No, I'm not referring to the fact that all three are wildly popular with Goth chicks. The connections are far more insidious. Ok, they're not really, but here they are anyway, or at least the ones I've been able to catalog: •Amos' song Tear In Your Hand from Little Earthquakes includes the lyric: "If you need me, me and Neil will be hanging out with the Dream King", which is a clear reference to Gaiman and his comic The Sandman. •Issue #41 of The Sandman, page 9, panel 5, has the song Tear In Your Hand "playing" in the background, specifically the lyric immediately preceeding the one mentioned above. •The Sandman character Delirium, when drawn by artist Jill Thompson, looks a lot like Tori Amos. •The Sandman himself, AKA Morpheus, when drawn by artist Jill Thompson, looks a lot like Trent Reznor. •Artist Jill Thompson pencilled the Sandman story arc Brief Lives. Issue #41 is the first issue in this story arc. •Amos lyric: Space Dog from Under The Pink: "Seems I keep getting this story twisted, so where's Neil when you need him?" •Another Amos lyric: Precious Things from Little Earthquakes: "Those Christian boys... with their Nine Inch Nails and little fascist panties tucked inside the heart of every nice girl." •Amos has a song, Professional Widow, with the word "starfucker" in what could nominally be called the chorus. Reznor has a song called Starfuckers Inc. •Still another Amos lyric: Caught a Lite Sneeze from Boys For Pele: "Caught a lite sneeze, dreamed a little dream, made my own Pretty Hate Machine". Gaiman bonus: Issue #3 of The Sandman is titled "Dream a Little Dream of Me". •Reznor sings backup vocals on Amos' song Past The Mission from Under The Pink. •Reznor makes frequent references to pigs, especially in lyrics from The Downward Spiral. Amos is pictured inside the sleeve of Boys For Pele breastfeeding a baby pig. Amos seems to be the nexus; I admit the Reznor-Gaiman links are weak and I'm still looking for more. Trent and Tori dated. Tori and Neil are great friends. Like minds influence each other that way. "She's mad, but she's magic. There's no lie in her fire." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 835588 Ireland 12/07/2009 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting ideas... Of course maynard james keenan from tool is also friends with tori and trent. he recently did a song with trent... and a lot of tool fans really hate maynard right now because he is feeding his ego with this whole "puscifer" business |
Not telling User ID: 1155195 Australia 01/22/2011 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you kidding me, this post is absurd... The level of paranoia and assumption on whomever contributed to this dribble is ridiculous. If one makes a statement, one must provide evidence. The speculation has no evidence. Seriously paranoid stuff. Please, seek out help or medication. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11780849 United States 03/02/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Sometimes, when you express thought to people, you leave it open for somebody to tromp in there and start tearing it down. I sing, Father I killed my monkey, to lead off the song, which explains that sometimes you even destroy your own so they can't excavate it. When I was growing up, I started becoming very secretive about my thoughts and the sensory world I would go to, because there's a lot of mind control that goes on constantly, people wanting access: 'What are you thinking?' So sometimes I'd have my own defense going, which would be to look them straight in the eye and make them think I've killed my imagination. But it's like, I'll take control." - About the song "BLISS" / AP MAGAZINE / OCT 99' Quoting: daj 644800 "Pip dissects the understanding of power via mind control and manipulation. To dig deeper into the lives of these four, join the hunt for their daily blogs posted throughout the internet where interesting tidbits can be found, such as the fact that Pip’s father was a senior analyst for the CIA." -LIVING DOLLS BY TARA BONET-BLACK "Can they monitor how you think? They've got their own remote viewing." -LYRICS FROM "POLICE YOURSELF" ON AATS(her new album coming out) "I really do feel as though I was psychologically mutilated that night and that now I'm trying to put the pieces back together again. " -FROM A TORI INTERVIEW ABOUT HER RAPE INCIDENT /HOT PRESS IRISH MAGAZINE / FEB 94' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Myra Ellen Amos - Tori Amos (anagram: Satori Om), Santa, Clyde, Isabel, Pip, etc.. Beyonce Knowles - Sasha Fierce (anagram: A FARCE SHE IS). Her husband and all his NWO Pyramid signals he throws up. Mariah Carey - Mimi Britney Spears - remember the incident of her going mad a year ago? It was because of Sam Lutfi's attempt to control her mind with drugs. It was reported she had multiple personality disorder in many interviews. Anna Nicole Smith - Howard K. Stern used drugs to control her mind and eventually caused her death, and most likely her son's overdose that killed him. Remember the weird videos he recorded of Anna in clown makeup? Erma Jean - Marilyn Monroe - found dead, she was manipulated by different Psychiatrists, and told to take certain drugs, which ultimately killed her. A lot more to this story: whale.to/b/monroe.html Heath Ledger - found dead due to a sleeping pill overdose, BATMAN became larger than life, he played the Joker with the weird clown makeup. Heidi Montag / The Hills - in one episode in the 2007 season Spencer Pratt was handed a book with the words "CIA / MIND CONTROL" as a gift from his sister Stephanie. That's when it clicked in my mind that the show was some sort of Psy-Op. Heidi's mom has also talked in interviews about how she thinks Spencer is using mind control techniques on her, and possibly drugs. Funny how those interviews are never mentioned in the news. You can find them by googling. John Lennon, Loretta Lynn, and many other celebrities are linked to Mind Control / CIA Operations based on different things I've read in books about the subject, on conspiracy forums, and from googling. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Remote Viewing: Remote viewing, like UFOs, has been postulated by some researchers as being used as a cover story for covert mind-control experiments. This plan would convince the victims that the "voices" or sensory data they were unnaturally receiving was due to channeling, telepathy, or remote-viewing. It would also have the "high-weirdness" factor, which would preclude a serious treatment of the subject by the mainstream media. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's quite possible Tori Amos is a victim of mind control and her whole life has been controlled for a long time, or the different traumatic experiences in her life have led her to develop multiple personality disorder. Has something made her mind all compartmentalized? People have been talking on here a lot lately that Tori has changed, her looks have changed, her energy isn't the same, her music isn't what it use to be, she's not being herself. Hard to be yourself if your being mind controlled to develop multiple personalities, or used in some way. Anyway these are just thoughts floating around in my head. I don't know if any of it is true, but it sure is possible, and would make a lot of sense about why Tori appears so disconnected and in "lala land" a lot of the time. What do you think? "I know that I, I must give, so that I, I can live." - LYRICS FROM "GIVE" ON AATS (her new album coming out) wow. |
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